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TK made it sound like Adam Cole is almost assuredly retired from wrestling. Didn’t eliminate the possibility entirely, but sounds very doubtful we’ll ever seen him lace up the boots again.
 

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At least charge rent to let people live in your head like this. Sad!
How many times do I have to say I barely pay attention do you comprehend that? Also you binge tweet 20 times a day like a little tk mark. Too bad he doesn’t pay you like Meltzer and SRS.
 

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Dynamite followed by Collision at 10:00 pm tonight.

AEW Champion Hangman Page vs. Katsuyori Shibata.
AEW Unified Champion Kazuchika Okada vs. Mascara Dorada.
ROH Women's TV Champion Red Velvet vs. ROH Interim Women's TV Champion Mercedes Mone.
Kenny Omega returns

Ricochet vs. Bobby Lashley - Winner Enters Casino Gauntlet at #1.
Speedball Bailey vs. Shelton Benjamin - Winner Enters Casino Gauntlet at #2.
Toni Storm & Mina Shirakawa vs. Alex Windsor & Rhio - AEW Women's Tag Team Championship Tournament Quarter-Final Match.
Tay Melo & Anna Jay vs. Megan Bayne & Marina Shafir - AEW Women's Tag Team Championship Tournament Quarter-Final Match.
 
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The short:
Alvarez says the finish that happened was the original planned finish, but there was a miscommunication between Shelton and the ref.

The Long:
After Speedball bumped so hard for that super kick, Shelton called for the finish there because he didn't think the original planned finish could possibly look better. Paul Turner didn't hear the audible, so he didn't count to three. Then they went right into what was the originally planned finish.
 

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Interesting perspective but most likely true -


Kenny Omega feels When AJ Styles was kicked out the Bullet Club it led to AEW’s creation in a way

"AJ, having a keen sense of what's best for business, knew exactly how to go along with it. In a way, by his turning his back and allowing for that moment to happen, whether he knows it or not, that led to the forming of The Elite.

Ultimately, it kind of led to AEW. Him being involved in our lives is very pivotal for the company and our careers."

(Interview with CBSSports)”
 
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How on earth has Collision been the only one that hasn’t been obliterated by the Nielsen change?

I’m still flabbergasted about how wrestling has been the only programming that has consistently done considerably worse while nearly everything else has done better.

 

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Anna Jay to nxt?
She just hasn’t improved at the rate numerous other women have in AEW along with the new people that have been brought in who are better. And she doesn’t seem to have the initiative to put the work in on her own time like many others are doing.

So I think she could stand to benefit from the change of scenery to a more hands on environment that will micromanage her through the process like NXT has. Some people just need that type of structure while others thrive outside of it.
 
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- Pretty sure Busted Open, namely Henry and Ray, collectively come up with the worst ideas imaginable.

- Curious who buys WBD and how they treat AEW afterward. If TNA can survive, AEW will too but I'm wondering if WWE stretching their tentacles out to several networks/streamers was for a moment like this, while at the same time helping TNA get a new deal. Really only two options once the sell happens: the new owners fully and proudly back AEW or they don't. That's going to be a big talking point over the coming months.

- Always confused by TK interviews. Half the time he talks like the owner and booker then other times it's the opposite. He spoke about Britt Baker as if he doesn't have the power to bring her back anytime he wants. It's like a "well, I'd love to see her back on tv." vibe. Buddy, it's your world, put her on tv then.
 

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- Pretty sure Busted Open, namely Henry and Ray, collectively come up with the worst ideas imaginable.

- Curious who buys WBD and how they treat AEW afterward. If TNA can survive, AEW will too but I'm wondering if WWE stretching their tentacles out to several networks/streamers was for a moment like this, while at the same time helping TNA get a new deal. Really only two options once the sell happens: the new owners fully and proudly back AEW or they don't. That's going to be a big talking point over the coming months.

- Always confused by TK interviews. Half the time he talks like the owner and booker then other times it's the opposite. He spoke about Britt Baker as if he doesn't have the power to bring her back anytime he wants. It's like a "well, I'd love to see her back on tv." vibe. Buddy, it's your world, put her on tv then.
Yeah those Bully Ray and Mark Henry ideas I hear com out of Busted Open are always brain worms stupid, that type of idiocy you'd hear coming out of WCW 2000 or peak LOLTNA years.

And Mark Henry will get his panties all in a wad about the most insignificant stuff. He once went on a tirade about how someone stayed in the ring during the intro for Bianca Belair. Acted like it was the most disrespectful thing he has ever seen. Like man get over it, no one cares.

Bu TK intimated again in that interview at health issues for Britt so if that's true then not much he can do about it.
 
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Steve Borden Jr, Sing's son, is making his indie wrestling debut tonight at DEFY in Seattle. He has one prior match at some art gallery exhibit where Darby booked the matches.
 

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Was really excited to see Penta v Finn Balor and hoped they’d get a decent chunk of time. They got about eight minutes of tv time with a commercial break in the middle. I am disappointed.
 
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Saw the spoilers for SD next week. I can't bother with that.

650k for NXT might be the Oba return factor. One thing fans forget is CW is paying for a decent roster and show. The idea to immediately bring talent up isn't a good one because 1) if you drain the talent pool, NXT could wind up with Collision-like numbers and 2) main roster creative has shown it's difficult to just plug anyone in. Oba, Saints, Page, Monroe, Grace, etc. are ready but if they all come up at once, who's left for Tuesday's? It's just a balancing act. They'll be called up next year at different points.

Stevie saying Logan Paul is better than anyone in AEW really shook some trees. You know the bait is good when multiple AEW wrestlers are either asked about it or decide to comment on it. For the record,
Better wrestler? No.
Better heel? Yes.
Bigger star? Yes.

2/3 ain't bad.