CI Wrestling Thread #56
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The NXT men’s roster is fairly lacking in depth compared to the women.
But sounds like main roster is more of your taste since Triple H hates the women now. Zero TV matches in the last 10 days for them.
More people eat at Subway than Jersey Mike’s or Firehouse Subs too, that doesn’t make Subway better.
bet more people agree with me. Start a poll.
If that's your true opinion on the sandwich shop wars then you might be too far gone to save lol
Happy season premiere day for the Continental classic and Stranger Things for those who celebrate. Those jackasses at Netflix had to go schedule the Season Things premiere at the same time as Dynamite (instead of 3 am eastern like they normally release things), so hopefully I can stay awake long enough to watch it after Dynamite.
There are a ton of matches in the CC that I can't wait for this year.
Dynamite for this evening as of 1:25 pm
AEW Women's Tag Team Championship Tournament: Willow Nightingale & Harley Cameron vs.
Julia Hart & Skye Blue
Continental Classic: Kyle Fletcher vs. Kazuchika Okada.
Continental Classic: Darby Allin vs. Kevin Knight.
Continental Classic: Jon Moxley vs. Mascara Dorada.
AEW Women's Tag Team Championship Tournament: Willow Nightingale & Harley Cameron vs.
Julia Hart & Skye Blue
Continental Classic: Kyle Fletcher vs. Kazuchika Okada.
Continental Classic: Darby Allin vs. Kevin Knight.
Continental Classic: Jon Moxley vs. Mascara Dorada.
I only had to work half a day today so I was planning on watching Stranger Things when I got home so it disappointed me.
I'm interested to see how it plays out story wise. Given the backstage segment that happened at the PPV, seems like Takeshita might not be the only one splitting away from the Don Callis Family.
She’s been botching it almost every time since returning from injury, and the botches are getting progressively worse. That was one of the worst botched moonsaults I’ve ever seen. Certainly the worst of the ones that didn’t cause an injury. Producers need to step in at some point and tell her she’s banned from doing it on TV until she can demonstrate consistency with it in training.
Bret's in a place where he just says stuff to get a reaction, which is sad. He was already doing it with Goldberg because he knew that's what people wanted and it turned into a gimmick but it's just dumb now. Don't become the Alex Jones of pro wrestling.
Wrestletix showed 1400 for Dynamite. This yearly tournament, which I know their fans love, will once again show that heatless bangers won't help numbers and don't attract new viewers. Also saw a tweet trying to explain the Continental title which had been unified with something else but now it's not or something. TK is way in the weeds with this stuff. Collision is tonight too, on Thanksgiving, against the NFL, and Daddy Magic vs Daniel Garcia is one of the matches. For as much crap as SD gets (well deserved), there's not enough talk of how Collision went from being the best show of the week to a slightly better version of Rampage that no one talks about. AEW just can't handle two shows a week, even with the large roster.
I do kinda worry about the future of wrestling. We're seeing way more miscues, timing issues, and botches. I don't know how often training is happening but one match per week just isn't enough for younger talent. Cornette has said about both companies, he's seeing stuff now on national tv that he wouldn't put on OVW at a local level. Even the damn refs have gotten worse in recent years.
Wrestletix showed 1400 for Dynamite. This yearly tournament, which I know their fans love, will once again show that heatless bangers won't help numbers and don't attract new viewers. Also saw a tweet trying to explain the Continental title which had been unified with something else but now it's not or something. TK is way in the weeds with this stuff. Collision is tonight too, on Thanksgiving, against the NFL, and Daddy Magic vs Daniel Garcia is one of the matches. For as much crap as SD gets (well deserved), there's not enough talk of how Collision went from being the best show of the week to a slightly better version of Rampage that no one talks about. AEW just can't handle two shows a week, even with the large roster.
I do kinda worry about the future of wrestling. We're seeing way more miscues, timing issues, and botches. I don't know how often training is happening but one match per week just isn't enough for younger talent. Cornette has said about both companies, he's seeing stuff now on national tv that he wouldn't put on OVW at a local level. Even the damn refs have gotten worse in recent years.
The announcers tried selling it on air somehow but it didn’t work.
Kinda surprised they had fletcher beat okada so they must be planting the seeds for something down the road.
Someone made a good point with less house shows these wrestlers are getting less reps than they are used to so that likely explains some of it.
I know there’s a lot more to it but that’s part of it and also going after entertainment and insanely risky spots doesn’t help either.
The move Seth did against Cody when he got hurt was needless and unnecessary but he tried to do some massive jump and hurt his shoulder.
I’m also worried too not today but 10-15 years from now once this current cycle of stars retires - I think Roman and Cena will be the last of the mega stars that can draw great attendance marks consistently.
The product will be bigger than the stars themselves which is only something football (nfl/cfb) can get away with.
The product will be bigger than the stars themselves which is only something football (nfl/cfb) can get away with.
The total # of seats on the map was 1461, not including general admission, which was not counted in the total on WrestleTix because there’s no way to count It since they aren’t assigned seats. They sold out of the 1461 and were selling general admission tickets, so they did more than 1400.
Do better.
There was story and/or stakes behind every single match last night just like there is tonight other than the advertised women’s match. That’s not heatless.
And Collision was never the best show of the week on a regular basis. Sure there have been weeks where Collision has been better than Dynamite, but even at its peak it was consistently worse than Dynamite.
Whenever anyone talks about how it, they are romanticizing it and ignoring all the BS with zero heat, stakes, and/or story behind it that was frequently on it like…
- Luchasaurus vs. Brock Anderson for the TNT title
- Miro vs. Tony Nese
- Powerhouse Hobbs vs. Jeremy Prophet
- Miro vs. Anthony Henry
- Statlander vs. Lady Frost
- Julia Hart vs. Bambi Hall
- Action Andretti vs. Scorpio Sky
- House of Black vs. Artemis Spencer and Randy Myers
- Miro vs. Nick Comoroto
- Samoa Joe vs. Gravity
- Mercedes Martinez vs. Kiera Hogan
- Serpentico vs. Samoa Joe
- Action Andretti, Darius Martin, and Lee Johnson vs. House of Black
- Jay White vs. Metalik
- Iron Savages vs. The Acclaimed
- Andre Everett vs. Samoa Joe
- Iron Savages and Jacked Jameson vs. Bullet Club Gold
- Big Bill vs. Derek Neal
- Butcher, Blade, Kip Sabian vs. Kingston, Cassidy, Penta
- Andretti and Darius Martin vs. Dark Order
- Big Bill vs. Vary Morales
- Willow vs. Robyn Renegade
- Keith Lee vs. Zicky Dice
A non-compete only triggering when a former employer deems it can be triggered can’t possibly be legal.
I was a little bit since Fletcher beat him last year in the C2. Nice think about the C2 being as stacked as it is this year is there should be quite a few surprise results.
More surprised that Kevin Knight beat Darby though. For the long term, Knight needed that win more than Darby since Darby is basically a made man now, and Knight’s future in the company should be as a top singles star. C2 could be a good launching point for him to start his ascension as a singles guy.
Match quality is the biggest concern for me. We went from the likes of Savage, Perfect, Hart, Eddie, Benoit, etc. to what's being pushed now, which is watchable but more or less like a video game. Compare Big Dawg Roman looking pale and scared against Cena to Bloodline Roman, a confident man who fits the part. It's just how you look and are booked and the stories you're involved in. Rock in the 2000s. Roman in the 2010s and 2020s. Bron or Oba likely in the 2030s.
You leave Brock Anderson alone! JK. I dunno, I remember Collision being fun as hell and such an easy watch. Granted, it was lead by Punk and FTR then and yeah, that didn't last too long. When Danielson took over, it became about his personal dream matches with elder Japanese stars. Now it's these silly fake money matches. I appreciate the terrority gimmick but it's an odd one to keep doing. That list is one hell of a blast from the past though.
Big problem in the industry today is people are getting snatched up earlier than they ever used to be by a TV company so they aren’t getting those year and years of experience working 100+ matches on indies and internationally.
Like take someone like Anna Jay. Less than 20 matches on her resume when she signed to AEW. A decade ago, she never would have even been on the radar for TNA, WWE, or ROH. She would very likely not have even gotten a look from a top indie with that little experience.