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Hated the finish to the first match but it's better than Cody coming from behind for the win. Both guys were protected BUT that was looking like a Brock beatdown of Cena for a while. I'm wondering how they explain to Drew that he's going to keep getting opportunities but will lose all those matches and make it make sense. Regardless, a message is being sent that while WWE is losing Cena, Styles, and maybe Brock, they've got young talent ready. Just up to HHH to not screw it up.
 

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What was the point of removing the tag titles being on the line if they were still going have Evans and Slater lose in less than 7 minutes?
 

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Spoiled crowd wanting it to be about themselves kinda ruining it. You lose on your way out. That's just what happens 99% of the time. A guy like Gunther is the immediate future whether fans like it or not and his finisher is the Sleeper thus, Cena taps. It's the right call. Not sure what folks wanted, SuperCena to win his 10,000th match when he's admitted this year he's got nothing left?
 

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I don't think anyone expected him to win, but a very anticlimactic ending and no "surprises" that were promised. Seemed like a lot of build up to have a very lackluster ending.
Austin's last match seemed a lot more thought out, and had much less time to prepare for it.
 
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I imagine the surprises were the returning legends at the event, Angle and all those guys. You weren't getting Rock or Orton showing up to save Cena. The last run wasn't thought out well and should be remembered as hotdog water but the match was fine. Again, not sure what fans really want when the guy who's leaving is saying every chance he gets that he's got very little left. He's tapped before and he tapped again. That's pro wrestling. That's also how submissions work. It's a struggle and you either escape the hold or you tap. Fans of today would have cried like children during the 80s when DDT's and submissions ruled the ring lol.
 

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The crowd heavily booed, chanted *ullshit and you *ucked up when Triple H showed up? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

How bad is Jericho's retirement going to go since he and Triple H hate each other?
 
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Those spots are so awful. Bailey has to stand there bent over for an unnatural amount of time waiting for that top-rope DDT. It’s cringy just like any Canadian destroyer. You can have an awesome match and something like that move completely takes you away from whatever suspension of belief you had accepted because the move looks SOOO forced.
 
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Hated the finish to the first match but it's better than Cody coming from behind for the win. Both guys were protected BUT that was looking like a Brock beatdown of Cena for a while. I'm wondering how they explain to Drew that he's going to keep getting opportunities but will lose all those matches and make it make sense. Regardless, a message is being sent that while WWE is losing Cena, Styles, and maybe Brock, they've got young talent ready. Just up to HHH to not screw it up.
They must be paying Drew a TON of money to be one of the absolute best on the roster while continuing to eat pins in every big match he gets. Guy deserves more, but I at least like to think the bank account is getting fat on his willingness to take constant L’s.
 

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The crowd heavily booed, chanted *ullshit and you *ucked up when Triple H showed up? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

How bad is Jericho's retirement going to go since he and Triple H hate each other?
So that's the thing - maybe it's just cool to hate HHH now for a variety of reasons as fans decided to hate on Tony for the last couple years. Or maybe it's a warning shot because creatively WWE simply wasn't good this year. That doesn't show in attendance and I know HHH will play it off as any reaction is good for business but WWE has gotta be better next year. There's a saying on Reddit that the people who hate wrestling the most are wrestling fans but WWE would probably get a D from me this year.
 
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My favorite part of the Cena retirement tour was him turning heel over the crowd booing the spinning belt. That will never be topped.
 
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My favorite part of the Cena retirement tour was him turning heel over the crowd booing the spinning belt. That will never be topped.
I was glad to see him turn heel too. Was waiting about 20 years for that one. Was good stuff.
 

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F Triple H and WWE more. Not a Gunther fan by any means but it is the fault of these imbeciles shoving him down our throat. He's not as over as they like to believe he is. No reason Cena couldn't have won his last match like The Undertaker over Styles. I guess we know who is retiring AJ next year. They fronted like the Last Time Is Now tournament was to give a young guy a shot like Cena had in his debut vs Angle. Could have used Saints, Femi here, or Jevon Evans and put a rocket on their *** to stardom. Gunther didn't need the rub. He's had a title on his *** the majority of the time he's been in the company or handed a marquee match. When neither happens, takes his ball and goes home for months.
 
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So that's the thing - maybe it's just cool to hate HHH now for a variety of reasons as fans decided to hate on Tony for the last couple years. Or maybe it's a warning shot because creatively WWE simply wasn't good this year. That doesn't show in attendance and I know HHH will play it off as any reaction is good for business but WWE has gotta be better next year. There's a saying on Reddit that the people who hate wrestling the most are wrestling fans but WWE would probably get a D from me this year.
The only way I would have agreed with Cena losing to Gunther is if there was a grand plan to get nuclear heat - in the good way - on Gunther because a Cena loss easily had the chance to piss off the fans in a way you don't want them to be pissed off.

Given the reactions I've seen thus far, HHH has his work cut out for him. After he screwed up Goldberg's retirement, screwing up Cena's left and right is a really bad look. He had a chance to put on a nice finale to end it on a high note, which would have eased a lot of the criticism of some the prior booking of the retirement tour, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

With that said, Cena should have lost his last match, and like I said earlier, it's because it should have been against someone else that could use the rub.

He's got one more guaranteed retirement next year Styles, he's got another seemingly likely one in Jericho, and then he's got the rumored Lesnar retirement coming up as well. Pressure is on big time to right the ship, and Tony Khan's largely highly praised booking of Sting's retirement isn't exactly helping matters.

The hardcores (which I assume is what largely comprises Wreddit becuase it's Reddit) are always the most likely to hate because they have the highest expectations, many times impossibly high, and thus are easiest to be disappointed.
 

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There was a loud "Fuc* the Saudis" chant wile Triple H was talking in the post show.

At another point he turned around when they were chanting something that had to be bleeped out and said in a clearly perturbed tone "I'm mildly disappointed, I thought it would be so much louder"

An AEW chant broke out HHH he was talking

Rosenberg started lecturing the crowd saying Cena had the pull to change it if he didn't like it.
 

American Dragon

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There was a loud "Fuc* the Saudis" chant wile Triple H was talking in the post show.

At another point he turned around when they were chanting something that had to be bleeped out and said in a clearly perturbed tone "I'm mildly disappointed, I thought it would be so much louder"

An AEW chant broke out HHH he was talking

Rosenberg started lecturing the crowd saying Cena had the pull to change it if he didn't like it.


 
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You can take the post-reaction different ways. Some will believe this is a massive release of emotion as the run and WWE itself this year was lackluster as ticket prices rose along with added costs, more ads than ever, PLE's with only four to five matches, and WWE embracing current politics when the country sort of agreed after 2020 that it's probably best to keep that and entertainment as separate as possible (this one is whatever to me but it's another barb to hit Trips/WWE with). Others, and WWE is likely in this boat, probably love the reaction because this is better than fans sitting on their hands. It will result in Gunther having MASSIVE heat Monday night and guess what? Cena (WWE's Jesus basically) isn't coming out to respond or get even. It won't be as nuclear as Big Dawg having his "This is MY yard now" moment but it'll be close and Gunther is going to laugh at fans because he's a heel. Heck, I hope he crushes us for always needing a storybook ending and when we don't get one, we crap our pants in anger.

It's interesting though. In most cases, you don't want fans chanting vulgarities about the show or crapping on the face of the company but if they keep buying tickets, let them be trolls or get tore up because their guy lost his final match I guess.
 
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Kyfan96

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I don't know how this does anything for Gunther. He's already been world champion, and had one of the longest IC reigns recently. If Cena had been Super Cena for the past few years, it would be different but he's been anything but. He got destroyed by Solo 2 years ago and it did nothing for him.
I get wanting to give the rub to someone, but Gunther didn't really need it.
Honestly after Punk and Roman are gone I'll probably be done with some what keeping up with it like I do now. My son hasn't watched
it in a while, and Gunther is great in the ring but there's nothing about him that shows he can carry the company and there's not really any other up and comer that looks like they could either.
 
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