CI Wrestling Thread #56
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* Donnie Tyndall is the perfect Southern weasel manager.
* Matthew Mitchell is the perfect bland face manager.
* Tyndall manages Marshall Henderson and Liggins
* Mitchell manages Dominique Hawkins and Isiah Briscoe
* Main Event Halloween Havoc
* ?????
* Profit
* Matthew Mitchell is the perfect bland face manager.
* Tyndall manages Marshall Henderson and Liggins
* Mitchell manages Dominique Hawkins and Isiah Briscoe
* Main Event Halloween Havoc
* ?????
* Profit
CWC thoughts:
Zack Sabre Jr. is the real deal. Glad he gets Gulak in round two. It will be cool to see two submission wrestlers that work different styles.
Jury is still out on Tony Nese since I think his opponent got hurt, or was terrible. He looks too big to be in this tournament.
I loved the Brian Kendrick vs. Raul Mendoza match. Both guys played their roles well. Kendrick assuming the Flair role of grizzled veteran heel was especially great and something this tournament needs.
Zack Sabre Jr. is the real deal. Glad he gets Gulak in round two. It will be cool to see two submission wrestlers that work different styles.
Jury is still out on Tony Nese since I think his opponent got hurt, or was terrible. He looks too big to be in this tournament.
I loved the Brian Kendrick vs. Raul Mendoza match. Both guys played their roles well. Kendrick assuming the Flair role of grizzled veteran heel was especially great and something this tournament needs.
Kaz was built like Tarzan but would probably wrestle like Jane. Maybe with a good manager he could work out. I could also see him as a Shelton Benjamin type with a Kurt Angle to help bring him along. Maybe team him up with Jeff Sheppard to make a UK version of The World's Greatest Tag Team.
I enjoyed Nese.
Sabre - Gulak will be a fun match.
I really enjoyed Danielson marking out for his buddy and admitting that he couldn't be impartial.
Noticed on the teaser for next week they said that Gargano was going to face his former tag team partner in Ciampa. Last time I saw them in NXT they were saying, "Hey Revival we beat you, we want a title match." Did I miss something?
Sabre - Gulak will be a fun match.
I really enjoyed Danielson marking out for his buddy and admitting that he couldn't be impartial.
Noticed on the teaser for next week they said that Gargano was going to face his former tag team partner in Ciampa. Last time I saw them in NXT they were saying, "Hey Revival we beat you, we want a title match." Did I miss something?
Havent watched NXT or the CWC yet but hope to this weekend.
So sad news we talked about this place earlier in this thread but the Hara Arena in Dayton is closing. Saw ECW Heat Wave 98 and 99 there, two of ECW's greatest shows.
http://whio.com/news/business/hara-arena-to-close/nr66C/?ref=cbTopWidget
So sad news we talked about this place earlier in this thread but the Hara Arena in Dayton is closing. Saw ECW Heat Wave 98 and 99 there, two of ECW's greatest shows.
http://whio.com/news/business/hara-arena-to-close/nr66C/?ref=cbTopWidget
If you don't read Uproxx's Best and Worst of Nitro/RAW, you're doing it wrong. Basically, Brandon Stroud goes through each Nitro and Raw from the very beginning and breaks it down with still pictures from the show and adds commentary like the following in regards to a midget tag match:
"On your right is Piratita Morgan, best described by Mike Tenay as, “the little pirate, complete with eyepatch,” and his tag team partner, Jerito Estrada. Jerito is like, the El Gigante of minis. He’s 5 feet tall, which is as tall as you can get before they make you wrestle Brad Armstrong." [laughing][laughing]
"On your right is Piratita Morgan, best described by Mike Tenay as, “the little pirate, complete with eyepatch,” and his tag team partner, Jerito Estrada. Jerito is like, the El Gigante of minis. He’s 5 feet tall, which is as tall as you can get before they make you wrestle Brad Armstrong." [laughing][laughing]
That's what was meant to be said, and I want to think WWE even addressed it and said he said mudhole, but it sure sounds like butthole to me. Wanting to think that was during the Nexus run ins when Daniel Bryan choked Justin Roberts with a tie, and Arn gave Sheamus a pep talk using his experience with the NWO. Either way, empty butthole was a bit of a meme on the wrestlecrap forums for a while.
I gush about Arn Anderson promos too much as it is.
Was listening to a podcast about Bash at the Beach 1996 earlier today and in it, Dave Meltzer mentioned that Eric Bischoff did with Hall & Nash what Vince could never have done with anybody, which is do a successful invasion angle in which the new guys beat the crap out of the established guys. The hard balance to hit - Bischoff didn't hit it, but neither has anybody else - is when to stop putting the invaders over, or when you need to let the good guys get one back so as to not damage them long term.
The end of the nWo angle should have happened in WarGames way on down the road. Watch this promo.
^And that was at Disney World. Imagine if AA had cut that promo in Greensboro.
Was listening to a podcast about Bash at the Beach 1996 earlier today and in it, Dave Meltzer mentioned that Eric Bischoff did with Hall & Nash what Vince could never have done with anybody, which is do a successful invasion angle in which the new guys beat the crap out of the established guys. The hard balance to hit - Bischoff didn't hit it, but neither has anybody else - is when to stop putting the invaders over, or when you need to let the good guys get one back so as to not damage them long term.
The end of the nWo angle should have happened in WarGames way on down the road. Watch this promo.
^And that was at Disney World. Imagine if AA had cut that promo in Greensboro.
While we're at it...Jake's promo on the Million Dollar Man at WM 6: nice.
Wish I could find the one he had on Undertaker at WM 8 where he narrated the video package where he hit Paul Bearer with the DDT: "Short ride, bad landing. Simple foreplay. When the time comes, I will hook the head and I will drive him into the mat. I will put the final nail in your own coffin, trust me."
More random stuff I heard on that Dave Meltzer interview about things not going to plan in the 90s:
Bret Hart was supposed to win his first WWE Title from Ultimate Warrior, followed by a program with Jake Roberts that led up to a big match against Hogan at SummerSlam 1993. By the time it was time to act on it, Warrior got fired, Jake left for WCW and Hogan refused to do the job.
A lot of people know that Bret Hart & Steve Austin weren't supposed to have their submission match that wound up being the best match ever at WM 13. Bret was supposed to win the belt from Shawn Michaels in a rematch of the previous year's WM, with the plan for Bret to hold it for a year before dropping it to Austin at WM 14. Austin was supposed to wrestle the British Bulldog in midcard hell at WM 13. Thank goodness for lost smiles, am I right?
Triple H found out on the day of WM 12 that he was getting squashed by Warrior. He asked for the Warrior match - knowing he would do the job - so he could put on a longer match and show the higher ups he could carry more limited guys. Whoops. 5-star match, though.
Wish I could find the one he had on Undertaker at WM 8 where he narrated the video package where he hit Paul Bearer with the DDT: "Short ride, bad landing. Simple foreplay. When the time comes, I will hook the head and I will drive him into the mat. I will put the final nail in your own coffin, trust me."
More random stuff I heard on that Dave Meltzer interview about things not going to plan in the 90s:
Bret Hart was supposed to win his first WWE Title from Ultimate Warrior, followed by a program with Jake Roberts that led up to a big match against Hogan at SummerSlam 1993. By the time it was time to act on it, Warrior got fired, Jake left for WCW and Hogan refused to do the job.
A lot of people know that Bret Hart & Steve Austin weren't supposed to have their submission match that wound up being the best match ever at WM 13. Bret was supposed to win the belt from Shawn Michaels in a rematch of the previous year's WM, with the plan for Bret to hold it for a year before dropping it to Austin at WM 14. Austin was supposed to wrestle the British Bulldog in midcard hell at WM 13. Thank goodness for lost smiles, am I right?
Triple H found out on the day of WM 12 that he was getting squashed by Warrior. He asked for the Warrior match - knowing he would do the job - so he could put on a longer match and show the higher ups he could carry more limited guys. Whoops. 5-star match, though.
Watching WWF's best non-Big 4 PPV of all time, Canadian Stampede.
The 5 man tag entrances are awesome. Of note; Pillman got a goddamn humongous reaction, bigger than everyone but Bret. Also, BREEEEEEEETTTTT. My lord what a pop. Then playing the super babyface and putting his sunglasses on his mom. That's just world class pro wrestling right there, folks. Of course Lawler drops a great one liner, "I didn't know they made those in bifocals."
The 5 man tag entrances are awesome. Of note; Pillman got a goddamn humongous reaction, bigger than everyone but Bret. Also, BREEEEEEEETTTTT. My lord what a pop. Then playing the super babyface and putting his sunglasses on his mom. That's just world class pro wrestling right there, folks. Of course Lawler drops a great one liner, "I didn't know they made those in bifocals."
That crowd was so effing hot for this match. And then Bret opens up with a role reversal by kicking Austin in the gut repeatedly while he's in the corner, takes a quick break to flip him off, then starts kicking again.
Pillman eye rakes Shamrock and hits him with a back breaker. Instead of trying to pin him, he grabs Shamrock's hand and beats it into the mat and tries to convince the ref Shamrock is tapping out [laughing]
Guys, I'm drinking
Guys, I'm drinking
Daily Motion, my friend. Just google Canadian Stampede 1997 and switch to the Videos search tab
Bruce Hart trying to get some offense in on Hawk [laughing]
Bruce Hart trying to get some offense in on Hawk [laughing]
I've always said that no wrestler has ever had more fun in a match than Brian Pillman did at Canadian Stampede.
And you want to talk about things that could have been...you know who was supposed to be in the Goldust slot at Canadian Stampede for Team USA?
1997 was so much fun, the most fun year ever to be a wrestling fan. Screw bringing back the Attitude Era, I want to see wrestling bring back that period where the Attitude Era was knocking on the door but the traditions of old school wrestling were still trying to hold on for dear life. That's when it was the best.
late 96 to early 98 is my platonic idea of "good wrestling"
97 Shawn at that show, antagonizing the crowd might have resulted in a literal riot. Hell, Stu probably would have tied that a-hole up in a knot right there.
And Bruce would step on him while he was down
And Bruce would step on him while he was down
Bret would have killed Michaels at Canadian Stampede. That show wasn't too far removed from Bret removing a large clump of HBK's hair during a backstage scuffle.
Can we all agree that Bruce Hart is a gigantic loser and the biggest mark in the history of the wrestling business?
Can we all agree that Bruce Hart is a gigantic loser and the biggest mark in the history of the wrestling business?
Saw this on Wikipedia about Jake - further proof one of the worst decisions he ever made was leaving for WCW.
"However, before he could officially join WCW, he had to wait 90 days. According to the Pick Your Poison DVD, Roberts had initially signed a lucrative contract under Kip Allen Frey, who was running WCW at the time. On the 87th day, Frey stepped down and was replaced by Bill Watts, for whom Roberts had legitheat with back in his days at Mid-South Wrestling. Ultimately, Roberts estimates that he went from making about $3.5 million a year to approximately $200,000 a year."
And worst promo of all time. Even worse than Jumpin' Jim Farmer
Your Arn post got me thinking, if the NWO angle played out like it should have (NWO defeats Horseman in late 1996, takes over WCW for a year, Horseman reform and challenge NWO to winner take all War Games match, Horseman win, something something sustainability), who is in the reformed Horseman? Arn would have been too effed to really go, and we know how the replacements they tried worked out, so it would need to be completely fresh blood and a group that could conceivably go against Hogan, Nash, Hall, and Scott Steiner/Lex Luger/Macho/Waltman(???).
Flair has to be there as the link to the past, the Hogan analog, and he was still awesome. So that leaves 3 spots; who ya got?
If this happens late '97 to early '98 I'll take: Bret, DDP, and... I'm really not sure. You probably need a guy roughly Nash's size to make it work. Syd or Vader would work, but they were out of WCW. I suppose you could go for strength instead of size and get Bulldog. Or get Eddie and play it up as speed and technique vs size and power. Sting could work, but I don't think his Crow gimmick would work in this angle and you couldn't just put him back in Surfer Sting mode that quickly. Not really sure, what say yous guys?
Flair
Benoit
DDP
Booker T
Sleeper pick: Goldberg
No way Bret and Flair share a stable together. They hated each other.
Sting by that point never should have tagged with anybody for the rest of his life just based on the direction the character went.
I don't think you get rid of Benoit in that situation. He never seemed out of place to me in the Horsemen and he proved his worth with the Kevin Sullivan matches.
DDP can come in as the new Enforcer to take Arn's place, the dude with the unstoppable and most over finisher.
Booker T as the young upstart/tag team guy just waiting for a singles push. Can't go wrong there and Booker was more than ready.
Goldberg as a killing machine in a reformed Horsemen stable learning all the tricks of the trade from Flair would have been good for his career.
I also think having Curt Hennig in that spot like they did in the week leading up to Fall Brawl would have gone great if they had gone through with it and not done the hotshot heel turn. Perfect fit like a glove. Second generation, could still work and carry off the Horseman vibe.
Fantasy booking is fun.
Meh, they hated each other, but we've seen guys who can't stand each other behind the scenes play convincing partners before. Plus, they would only being working together one or two matches at most. Sometimes I think the backstage drama gets a little out of proportion, especially when talking about Bret and Flair who both worked with people they hated and still made it look good.
Thought about Booker T. Really like him as the 4th man, probably gets in over Eddie.
I just can't get over how bad Benoit was on the mic. He was ferocious in the ring, but a lot of that was dependent on the other guy letting him do that. Not that he wasn't a tough guy, but he wasn't Haku or Harley. What if Hall or Nash or Steiner just ate his chops (not no sell, but don't put him over as a holy **** badass one of a kind *** kicker)? Then he looks like a smallis babyface with tons of fire. Not a bad gimmick, but that's not what he was and not what that Horsemen would have needed.
Really thought about Goldberg, but like Warrior, he just didn't make sense as a tag wrestler or stable member. They had different gimmicks, but the essence of their characters were similar: crazy *** kickers who didn't communicate in the same normal humans did. Goldberg was obviously not pretending to be a space alien or whatever, but he still had never really shown that he existed on the same plane as the other wrestlers. Maybe that's just my little kid memories clouding my judgement.
Perfect was the...perfect
choice, if the angle had taken place a few years earlier. His back was still not great and he had lost his physique a little bit. Not to where he couldn't go like Arn, but I would have rather had a healthier guy in there.
So I've got:
Flair
Bret
DDP
Booker T
And I agree, we should fantasy book in this thread more often
Thought about Booker T. Really like him as the 4th man, probably gets in over Eddie.
I just can't get over how bad Benoit was on the mic. He was ferocious in the ring, but a lot of that was dependent on the other guy letting him do that. Not that he wasn't a tough guy, but he wasn't Haku or Harley. What if Hall or Nash or Steiner just ate his chops (not no sell, but don't put him over as a holy **** badass one of a kind *** kicker)? Then he looks like a smallis babyface with tons of fire. Not a bad gimmick, but that's not what he was and not what that Horsemen would have needed.
Really thought about Goldberg, but like Warrior, he just didn't make sense as a tag wrestler or stable member. They had different gimmicks, but the essence of their characters were similar: crazy *** kickers who didn't communicate in the same normal humans did. Goldberg was obviously not pretending to be a space alien or whatever, but he still had never really shown that he existed on the same plane as the other wrestlers. Maybe that's just my little kid memories clouding my judgement.
Perfect was the...perfect
choice, if the angle had taken place a few years earlier. His back was still not great and he had lost his physique a little bit. Not to where he couldn't go like Arn, but I would have rather had a healthier guy in there.So I've got:
Flair
Bret
DDP
Booker T
And I agree, we should fantasy book in this thread more often
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DDP as a horseman in this fantasy booking works. Would have been a perfect fit at that time. Dude had a finisher that people loved, and he worked well as heel or face, but he doesn't get Arn's spot in my booking.
Bret comes into WCW late 97, and immediately looks like a tool because of how the ref pissed all over the ending of Sting/Hogan at Starrcade. For my booking to work, this match doesn't happen. See later in the post for why. Instead, Bret comes in fresh off being screwed in Montreal, and is sick and tied of the company up north, and won't stand by a couple of it's rejects doing the same screw jobs to guys in WCW. He joins the horsemen, and for a while the horsemen are Flair, DDP, Benoit, and Bret. For the better part of the next year, you can mix and match battles against the NWO, put Bret and Benoit as a tag team to Hall and Nash, but the NWO gets the better of them throughout this feud.
Now, what should have happened with Sting. Send Sting on a long vacation and have him nowhere near a WCW event after his telling his doubters to stick it. Send him to Japan for the year and a half if he wants to stay in the ring, but keep him out of the US. No crow gimmick, no broody, silent dude in the rafters. None of it. No fake Sting in the nWo. Legit send him away. (As a side note, Bret is happy without even knowing it, because not sending Sting to the rafters means Owen doesn't die.)
In the month before Fall Brawl 98, set up a war games match, Hogan, Hall, Nash, and Macho against the Horsemen. The stipulation, the loser of the match has to disband their stable. Two weeks before the PPV, Hall and Nash storyline injures Benoit, sending him home for a few months and out of the War Games match.
On the Nitro before Fall Brawl, have the NWO say if they can't find a guy, they gotta do the match a man down. Do a couple backstage segments of Flair on the phone trying to get "his guy", but leave Nitro thinking they are still down a man.
The night of the PPV, have the announce team sell that only three horsemen have been seen in the building, Schiavone was great at selling WCW at it's darkest hour ish. Right before the match, have Flair, with just Bret and DDP cut normal crazy Flair promo, the horsemen against the world, woo about 59 times and start the match.
As always, heels win the toss, and it is a 1 man advantage for them the entire match for a horseman beating. Everyone the audience knows of is in the match, and the clock expires for the 4th man to enter. No one comes out, and as the NWO assumes there is no 4th guy, Sting comes out, not in crow gimmick, but black and white face paint like he wore before going all crow. NWO and the horsemen stop fighting as Sting walks in, and you get a three man staredown of Hogan and Flair in opposite corners with Sting in the middle. Sting Stinger Splashes Hogan and all hell breaks loose. Horsemen make the comeback and win, NWO disbands, and for a while, you got a horsemen faction of Flair, DDP, Bret, and Sting.
Bret comes into WCW late 97, and immediately looks like a tool because of how the ref pissed all over the ending of Sting/Hogan at Starrcade. For my booking to work, this match doesn't happen. See later in the post for why. Instead, Bret comes in fresh off being screwed in Montreal, and is sick and tied of the company up north, and won't stand by a couple of it's rejects doing the same screw jobs to guys in WCW. He joins the horsemen, and for a while the horsemen are Flair, DDP, Benoit, and Bret. For the better part of the next year, you can mix and match battles against the NWO, put Bret and Benoit as a tag team to Hall and Nash, but the NWO gets the better of them throughout this feud.
Now, what should have happened with Sting. Send Sting on a long vacation and have him nowhere near a WCW event after his telling his doubters to stick it. Send him to Japan for the year and a half if he wants to stay in the ring, but keep him out of the US. No crow gimmick, no broody, silent dude in the rafters. None of it. No fake Sting in the nWo. Legit send him away. (As a side note, Bret is happy without even knowing it, because not sending Sting to the rafters means Owen doesn't die.)
In the month before Fall Brawl 98, set up a war games match, Hogan, Hall, Nash, and Macho against the Horsemen. The stipulation, the loser of the match has to disband their stable. Two weeks before the PPV, Hall and Nash storyline injures Benoit, sending him home for a few months and out of the War Games match.
On the Nitro before Fall Brawl, have the NWO say if they can't find a guy, they gotta do the match a man down. Do a couple backstage segments of Flair on the phone trying to get "his guy", but leave Nitro thinking they are still down a man.
The night of the PPV, have the announce team sell that only three horsemen have been seen in the building, Schiavone was great at selling WCW at it's darkest hour ish. Right before the match, have Flair, with just Bret and DDP cut normal crazy Flair promo, the horsemen against the world, woo about 59 times and start the match.
As always, heels win the toss, and it is a 1 man advantage for them the entire match for a horseman beating. Everyone the audience knows of is in the match, and the clock expires for the 4th man to enter. No one comes out, and as the NWO assumes there is no 4th guy, Sting comes out, not in crow gimmick, but black and white face paint like he wore before going all crow. NWO and the horsemen stop fighting as Sting walks in, and you get a three man staredown of Hogan and Flair in opposite corners with Sting in the middle. Sting Stinger Splashes Hogan and all hell breaks loose. Horsemen make the comeback and win, NWO disbands, and for a while, you got a horsemen faction of Flair, DDP, Bret, and Sting.
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...then Flair turns on Sting :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
And yeah, for Bret in the Horsemen to work Starcadde 97 needs to not happen for him. Sting should have lost after tons of interference. Have him eat every NWO finisher and still kick out then have them hit him with their finishers two more times each on a bed of nails or whatever. Make him look strong, but lose.
I like the cur of your jib, Herodotus
Probably. Sting was never great at keeping friends. Besides, You couldn't sustain that stable long with the people in it. All four were capable of big belt runs at the time, but that is the stable you needed when three of the NWO stable had or would have big belt runs, and the one who didn't probably deserved at least one.
Thanks man. Of course, I got the power of this guy to help make that fantasy booking:
Two years was about as much as the NWO should have ran. You establish them as a threat to the company, let them run wild for a little over a year, then start the decline, dissension among the group, and finally disbandment.
In my fantasy booking, a couple months before Fall Brawl 98, Hogan drops the belt to Goldberg. It gets the belt out of the way of the upcoming storyline, and takes the belt off what was a boring gimmick and puts the top babyface over before the NWO falls. Goldberg then successfully defends the month before Fall Brawl, making Hogan blame the NWO for losing his title. I would possibly even take the tag belts off Hall and Nash so that the NWO looks mortal, even though the horsemen go into Fall Brawl a man down.
This would give the NWO a nice two year run, after Fall Brawl it gives each member a clean start. Hogan could go back to his Hulkamania gimmick. Hall and Nash could become singles wrestlers or stay a tag team if they wanted, and Macho as always is gonna Macho.
The biggest thing it does, it keeps there from being eleventy different factions of the NWO, and half the frigging roster isn't in it.
Watching the roast battle on Comedy Central, one of the guys dressed like a wrestler during his first round match, the guy he was roasting against was Canadian. This was the Canadian's last joke: "Everyone knows you like to dress up like wrestlers and work out. I hope your next costume is Chris Benoit, because your weight room should only be used to kill yourself and anyone who ever loved you.". Jesus.
To me, it was the best joke because it cut to the bone, and actually made fun of something the other guy did. The problem was, the joke flew over the judges' and the crowd's heads. Couple people laughed, but it mostly got a quiet reaction.
The dude he was battling against won. He is a relative of the Kennedy family and the dude that popped off the Benoit joke is kinda huge. Joke that won it for him was, "You know that I am a cousin to the Kennedys. All I have to say is, your head is so big that if you had been in the car with my uncle in Dallas, he'd still be here today.".
Del Rio has had more emotional turns with WWE than Big Show has had Face/Heel turns. Apparently he is unhappy with how he has been booked since his return, and drafting him to SD has upset him even more. Rumor going around he has a clause in his contract to leave in September, and he is taking it.
Dude is in his late 30's, a Mexican Ric Flair gimmick, and getting paid big money to be upper card of SD. Calm the f*** down. Things could be a lot worse. Besides, getting to f*** Paige any time you want, life isn't exactly an Andy Dufrense river of **** for you. You could be in TNA doing a green card on a pole match with Hernandez.
Dude is in his late 30's, a Mexican Ric Flair gimmick, and getting paid big money to be upper card of SD. Calm the f*** down. Things could be a lot worse. Besides, getting to f*** Paige any time you want, life isn't exactly an Andy Dufrense river of **** for you. You could be in TNA doing a green card on a pole match with Hernandez.
I do enjoy the commentators on Raw being pulled from ringside. Kinda reminds me of these old school promos where they look like they are in front of a green screen.
Sid Justice, though.
The match made in hell got me thinking about Vince's pre-show voiceovers he used to do and how WWE really needs to bring those back. "A MATCH MADE IN HELLLLLLLLL!"
Bland Strawman getting the jobber of the week squash match each week, and I can't even give half a ****, let alone a single one. Nia Jax I at least find myself digging a little.
Speaking of digging it, sucka, read where Booker T had surgery on his elbow last weekend. However I have a hard time buying wrestlezone's reason he had the surgery, that he tore his triceps after doing the spinaroonie at his hall of fame induction in 2013. So he's just been shucky ducky quack quacking along for three years with a torn triceps? OK.
Speaking of digging it, sucka, read where Booker T had surgery on his elbow last weekend. However I have a hard time buying wrestlezone's reason he had the surgery, that he tore his triceps after doing the spinaroonie at his hall of fame induction in 2013. So he's just been shucky ducky quack quacking along for three years with a torn triceps? OK.
Gonna see just how far the Roman Empire really has fallen at Summerslam. Even though it was mostly the sound of moist vaginas and children, he actually got some positive reaction coming out.
Kevin Owens and Chris Jericho together? Yeah, this should be good. Three of the best talkers on the roster in a program, but at some point Enzo and Cass have got to get the tag belts, don't they?
I'm actually liking this face Randy Orton. It's kinda like when HBK reached that point in his career that he knew no matter what he did fans would cheer for it, so he just goes nutty at times.
Kevin Owens and Chris Jericho together? Yeah, this should be good. Three of the best talkers on the roster in a program, but at some point Enzo and Cass have got to get the tag belts, don't they?
I'm actually liking this face Randy Orton. It's kinda like when HBK reached that point in his career that he knew no matter what he did fans would cheer for it, so he just goes nutty at times.
Thought the same thing tonight while watching. Instead of jobbing to legends each week, it's what washed up mid card hell lifer beats his *** on this episode? And even looking at it the other way around, that they use Slater to get the free agent some buzz, the end result is still the same. They'll be jobbing to Brown Strobelamp and Barren Crowbar in a week or two.
That was the best ending on Raw in 2 plus years. Doesn't take long for Orton to sit up the high velocity match. It's the match of the year on Aug 21.
Can't wait for SD tonight!!!
Can't wait for SD tonight!!!