If Orton bladed he did the worst blade job ever. It was a worked hard way cut, just worked too well.
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My problem isn't so much that Rollins hurts people, it's that he does it with ish like the buckle bomb. It's completely unnecessary and doesn't even make a ton of sense in kayfabe.
Owen broke Austin's neck with a piledriver. That suck(s)ed and was reckless. But a broken neck was also a legitimate seeming outcome from that move. Plus, WWF wasn't afraid to let Owen get a ton of a heat for it either. I'm sure Rollins will be tweeting an apology any second
Owen broke Austin's neck with a piledriver. That suck(s)ed and was reckless. But a broken neck was also a legitimate seeming outcome from that move. Plus, WWF wasn't afraid to let Owen get a ton of a heat for it either. I'm sure Rollins will be tweeting an apology any second
I noticed that too when she came out as the mystery partner at Battleground as well as last nights "debut". And yes she can hug me anytime she wants.
no
and I agree with Vince, Jericho's reaction was amateurish, fanboyish. sticking his nose in a planned scripted angle and acting like the bitches on IWC when one of their indy darlings is jobbed out.
After seeing images of Orton's cut, he must have bladed with a jagged piece of glass.
If this is an angle, it does nothing but bury one of the top stars in the company. Probably a botched angle, but it still makes no sense as it makes Orton seem like he can't "fight." So I guess it's par for the course?
If this is an angle, it does nothing but bury one of the top stars in the company. Probably a botched angle, but it still makes no sense as it makes Orton seem like he can't "fight." So I guess it's par for the course?
Finished watching NXT Takeover this morning, holy cow what a show. Just about every match was great. That Ember Moon match didn't do anything for me but the off the ropes stunner was pretty cool.
http://www.inquisitr.com/1675885/ww...alks-about-his-real-life-fight-with-goldberg/
Thought this quote was interesting...
simply because WWE doesn’t allow blood anymore. But apparently, there are different rules for Brock Lesnar, because we see blood in almost every single one of his matches.
http://www.inquisitr.com/1675885/ww...alks-about-his-real-life-fight-with-goldberg/
Thought this quote was interesting...
simply because WWE doesn’t allow blood anymore. But apparently, there are different rules for Brock Lesnar, because we see blood in almost every single one of his matches.
This.
My problem is Rollins won't be held accountable, just like he wasn't for Sting. Hell, WWE is even running the spot Balor got hurt like it is a badge of honor for Seth.
Do I think he needs sent to mid card hell? No, but probably shouldn't be right back in the title picture either. Matter of fact, he's probably gonna get it next week.
Hell, Owen got tons of heat, and if you believe the conspiracy theories, death for hurting Austin. Rollins just gets pass after pass, and again, I feel like I have to keep saying this, I like Rollins. I think he's a great talent, and I enjoy his work out of the ring as much as in it. Dude just needs to dial back the killing of people.
I saw some podcast on twitter discussing the injuries of indie stars and that many can't be counted upon. Not saying I agree but looking at the list, it's pretty wild.
Daniel Bryan
Seth Rollins
Finn Balor
Sami Zayn
Cesaro
Neville
Itami
Three of those guys have had to forfeit the main title due to injury.
Daniel Bryan
Seth Rollins
Finn Balor
Sami Zayn
Cesaro
Neville
Itami
Three of those guys have had to forfeit the main title due to injury.
I didn't see many talk about it but how lazy was that Ziggler and Ambrose title match? It was pretty awful. It was a filler feud.
I thought the same thing, but was kinda on the fence about it. I mean how bad does it have to suck to come out after what Styles and Cena did?
Did you like that everyone else gets to kick out of multiple finishers but Ziggler is put away with one DDT?
Ambrose will lose the title by Survivor Series.
That's the story that is Ziggler though, right. The dude can hit five finishers in a match and every one of them gets kicked out of, but he gets one put on him and it's lights out. lol
If Ziggler ever wants to be taken seriously and make a move up the card then he needs to repackage himself. I like him, but he is far from original in any way. He's a millennial version of HBK.
The match wasn't great, by any means, but I think having Styles and Cena before it really made it look worse.
I didn't think Ambrose/Ziggler was a bad match, but the crowd was pretty match out of it after Cena/Styles. Also they had already watched 4 hours or wrestling before that match.
The length of SummerSlam and the way the card was laid out was very poor.
The length of SummerSlam and the way the card was laid out was very poor.
Builds the drama in the match I guess. Finishers aren't just finishers anymore either. AA went from standard to you gotta do it off the top rope, catch a code breaker while jumping off the top rope, etc...
I brought this up a couple of pages ago. What was the strategy behind the layout of that card?
-Cena vs Styles
-Tag title match ends in DQ
-Ambrose vs Ziggler WWE title
-Women's six person tag
-Balor vs Rollins- Universal title
-Reigns vs Rusev- US title ends without starting
-Brock vs Orton- nothing on the line & doesn't have a legit finish. Just kind of ends in TKO.
So three of the last six matches don't even end with a pin or submission. You also put a midcard title ahead of the two big titles and you once again put Brock in the main event with nothing on the line.
How does that make sense?
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Some thoughts on Orton's cut. Wrestlers can blade pre-match and put super glue on the cut and at the right time the super glue can be knocked off. To me it looked like Lesnar looked down and was aiming for a specific spot on Orton's head with his elbow. Looked like the first shot didn't do the trick and then he really nailed him with the second. That could explain why Lesnar's suplexes weren't as explosive as normal because they didn't want Orton bleeding early. (All of this is conjecture, of course) Crazy grandpa is going to crazy grandpa. I guess this was done for the MMA fans.
As for Jericho freaking out I can understand why. When was the last time someone bladed that big on a WWE show? I seem to remember him and Batista getting fined for blading a few years ago. Lesnar has the rep that he does whatever he wants so if he intentionally hurt Orton no one would be really surprised.
The gf and I watched the match with Orton/Lesnar and it was very noticeable that Orton was not helping at all on the suplexes, which seemed rather odd to me. Also noticed that the DDT from the rope wasn't extended as far as usual. Was Orton working stiff?
http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/...d-commission-reveals-drug-test-results-082316
"The Nevada State Athletic Commission revealed during a hearing on Tuesday that Lesnar tested positive for clomiphene and hydroxy-clomiphene, which is a metabolite of chomiphene. Clomiphene is an anti-estrogen agent that is typically used after a cycle of steroids to prevent many of the side effects that come along with the performance-enhancing drug."
At what point do the people in the locker room get tired of Brock being able to do whatever he wants.
Doesn't have to worry about the "Wellness Policy".
Gets to do whatever he wants in his matches.
Comes and goes as he pleases.
"The Nevada State Athletic Commission revealed during a hearing on Tuesday that Lesnar tested positive for clomiphene and hydroxy-clomiphene, which is a metabolite of chomiphene. Clomiphene is an anti-estrogen agent that is typically used after a cycle of steroids to prevent many of the side effects that come along with the performance-enhancing drug."
At what point do the people in the locker room get tired of Brock being able to do whatever he wants.
Doesn't have to worry about the "Wellness Policy".
Gets to do whatever he wants in his matches.
Comes and goes as he pleases.
^^^ I've never been a fan.
He's been a diva since Day 1. He's a GD freak of nature, but just seems like a really ****** person. I enjoy wrestling more without him.
He's been a diva since Day 1. He's a GD freak of nature, but just seems like a really ****** person. I enjoy wrestling more without him.
Wrestled one time on Raw against Rollins the day after WrestleMania 31 and it ended in DQ.
But yeah, he has to be the most hated. If people had issues with The Rock then how the hell do they feel about Brock? Guy just beats the piss out of people where hardly anyone else gets any offense. He gets to main event and hasn't lost clean to anyone except for Triple H (of course) in over three years.
WWE should have had Reigns or one powerhouse beat him to go over and then be done with Brock.
I think SummerSlam is the end of the fascination with Brock by the fans.
You do not need that many titles. I'm sure one will be for the women and maybe they're going to add a tag team title for SmackDown?
Hope it's not a meaningless mid-card title.
Hope it's not a meaningless mid-card title.
Anyway we could get back to a gold standard type of belt? I mean a champion is fit to be king, not a crayon box.
Get your **** together WWE.
Also, Brock should have been used as a monster and then put some one over as the top badass.
So I now get the Alpha/Steiner comparison. Spot on from what I see. The mat wrestling I saw the long haired dude(gable?) pulling off was classic Steiner.
Good young tag team right their.
Get your **** together WWE.
Also, Brock should have been used as a monster and then put some one over as the top badass.
So I now get the Alpha/Steiner comparison. Spot on from what I see. The mat wrestling I saw the long haired dude(gable?) pulling off was classic Steiner.
Good young tag team right their.
I really enjoy watching American Alpha as well especially with their cohesiveness unlike some of the teams WWE throws together like R-Truth/Goldust.
I like everything about American Alpha except that Jason Jordan is a filthy Indiana Hoosier and he probably uses thread view on this network.
Those tag titles look pretty badass. The silver pops on the Royal blue.
I'm super late to the bandwagon of AJ Styles but I'm going to rewatch a lot of ROH and NJPW stuff. I re watched Tyler Black vs Bryan Danielson last night from 2008. Danielson was the man. I did not truly appreciate his talent while he was active
I'm super late to the bandwagon of AJ Styles but I'm going to rewatch a lot of ROH and NJPW stuff. I re watched Tyler Black vs Bryan Danielson last night from 2008. Danielson was the man. I did not truly appreciate his talent while he was active
What would be your fantasy tournament pairing to determine an overall champ? Both brands included and NXT as well. Let's say 16 person?
Finn Balor
Seth Rollins
Shinsuke Nakamura
AJ Styles
John Cena
Samoa Joe
Dean Ambrose
Roman Reigns
Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn
Randy Orton
Brock Lesnar
Cesaro
Austin Aries or Bobby Roode
Big E (just to have another big guy)
Bray Wyatt
Finn Balor
Seth Rollins
Shinsuke Nakamura
AJ Styles
John Cena
Samoa Joe
Dean Ambrose
Roman Reigns
Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn
Randy Orton
Brock Lesnar
Cesaro
Austin Aries or Bobby Roode
Big E (just to have another big guy)
Bray Wyatt
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So fair to say Smackdown has zero Vince influence in it.
Tonight's show was awesome. Talking Smack was great. And the Miz threw up a great promo on Daniel Bryan (Shocking, I know)
But yeah, despite the obvious talent deficiencies, Smackdown is the better show now.
Tonight's show was awesome. Talking Smack was great. And the Miz threw up a great promo on Daniel Bryan (Shocking, I know)
But yeah, despite the obvious talent deficiencies, Smackdown is the better show now.