Clarity on Rankin/Madison MSU/OM

[Oxford Godfrey]

One poster estimated that currently it's more like Rankin=MSU, Madison is split and NE Jackson is Ole Miss. I'd agree with that.<div>
</div><div>My comments on the air were more about being in high school at NWR in the 90s and a black and gold high school being painted maroon. When I came to Mississippi in December of 96, NWR and Rankin County was all MSU. Having no dog in the hunt, I "cheered" for State when I first made friends, including the 97 Egg Bowl. Didn't really know any better (not a sleight, I'm saying I was just unfamiliar in general).</div><div>
</div><div>Rankin County was Bulldog country, and Ole Miss were "those ******** down Lakeland" (JP and JA), and "those faggots across the water." Over ten years later I think the distribution has changed dramatically, especially as Flowood exploded.</div><div>
</div><div>I'd still say that around my parents' social sphere - St. Mark's United Methodist, the north shore of the water, NWR families, it's still considerably more State than Ole Miss.</div><div>
</div><div>Part of the reason I've never really signed on to "hate State" is that it would seem I'm more State than Ole Miss when it comes to mystique of Jackson. I was corrected countless times in Oxford during my studies.</div><div>
</div><div>I'd say, "yeah I'm from Jackson, I moved there and finished out high school." I would then be informed by some JA prick that I was from Rankin County, which was the wastelands to them, not even Brandon or Madison. Old Jackson money Ole Miss people are insufferable. They treat being from Jackson like hailing from the Upper East Side of Manhattan. It's insane.</div><div>
</div><div>Now when that "element" of Ole Miss / Jacksonites ask where I went to high school, I just say, "I'm from the County, *****."</div><div>
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[Oxford Godfrey]

One poster estimated that currently it's more like Rankin=MSU, Madison is split and NE Jackson is Ole Miss. I'd agree with that.<div>
</div><div>My comments on the air were more about being in high school at NWR in the 90s and a black and gold high school being painted maroon. When I came to Mississippi in December of 96, NWR and Rankin County was all MSU. Having no dog in the hunt, I "cheered" for State when I first made friends, including the 97 Egg Bowl. Didn't really know any better (not a sleight, I'm saying I was just unfamiliar in general).</div><div>
</div><div>Rankin County was Bulldog country, and Ole Miss were "those ******** down Lakeland" (JP and JA), and "those faggots across the water." Over ten years later I think the distribution has changed dramatically, especially as Flowood exploded.</div><div>
</div><div>I'd still say that around my parents' social sphere - St. Mark's United Methodist, the north shore of the water, NWR families, it's still considerably more State than Ole Miss.</div><div>
</div><div>Part of the reason I've never really signed on to "hate State" is that it would seem I'm more State than Ole Miss when it comes to mystique of Jackson. I was corrected countless times in Oxford during my studies.</div><div>
</div><div>I'd say, "yeah I'm from Jackson, I moved there and finished out high school." I would then be informed by some JA prick that I was from Rankin County, which was the wastelands to them, not even Brandon or Madison. Old Jackson money Ole Miss people are insufferable. They treat being from Jackson like hailing from the Upper East Side of Manhattan. It's insane.</div><div>
</div><div>Now when that "element" of Ole Miss / Jacksonites ask where I went to high school, I just say, "I'm from the County, *****."</div><div>
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[Oxford Godfrey]

One poster estimated that currently it's more like Rankin=MSU, Madison is split and NE Jackson is Ole Miss. I'd agree with that.<div>
</div><div>My comments on the air were more about being in high school at NWR in the 90s and a black and gold high school being painted maroon. When I came to Mississippi in December of 96, NWR and Rankin County was all MSU. Having no dog in the hunt, I "cheered" for State when I first made friends, including the 97 Egg Bowl. Didn't really know any better (not a sleight, I'm saying I was just unfamiliar in general).</div><div>
</div><div>Rankin County was Bulldog country, and Ole Miss were "those ******** down Lakeland" (JP and JA), and "those faggots across the water." Over ten years later I think the distribution has changed dramatically, especially as Flowood exploded.</div><div>
</div><div>I'd still say that around my parents' social sphere - St. Mark's United Methodist, the north shore of the water, NWR families, it's still considerably more State than Ole Miss.</div><div>
</div><div>Part of the reason I've never really signed on to "hate State" is that it would seem I'm more State than Ole Miss when it comes to mystique of Jackson. I was corrected countless times in Oxford during my studies.</div><div>
</div><div>I'd say, "yeah I'm from Jackson, I moved there and finished out high school." I would then be informed by some JA prick that I was from Rankin County, which was the wastelands to them, not even Brandon or Madison. Old Jackson money Ole Miss people are insufferable. They treat being from Jackson like hailing from the Upper East Side of Manhattan. It's insane.</div><div>
</div><div>Now when that "element" of Ole Miss / Jacksonites ask where I went to high school, I just say, "I'm from the County, *****."</div><div>
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[GimpyDawg]

.....and I enjoyed the Vent on Friday morning.

 

[Dental Dawg]

I think that Madison is 60% MSU, 30% UM and 10% other (USM, LSU, Auburn, etc)
I will not argue for a second NE Jackson is heavily UM. As a prep graduate, I felt that going to Ole Miss was like going to 13th grade at prep.

 

[newyorkdawg]

I live on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. The people here are "country friendly" compared to Ole Miss Jackson people - at least if you don't express conservative views too often.

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

I was born and raised in madison, and parents still live there.....I would say 55-45 MSU......

I now live in the 211 in NE jackson.......and it is sick........i hate it here for one, but my JP / ole miss wife insists on it while she works downtown........NE jackson is 90% UM 10% other.....

I think we are the only ones in my area without an UM tag on their car....I have a state tag, and my wife thinks they are tacky (go figure).....

couldnt tell you about flowood/rankin, but if i had to guess, prolly 70/30 state.....

 

[615dawg]

My street is like this.

LSU
Ole Miss
<span style="font-weight: bold;">MSU</span> - that's me.
MSU
MSU
MSU
Southern Miss
MSU
MSU
MSU
MSU
Ole Miss

The two Ole Miss guys are doctors - one is alright but the one that is my neighbor is a straight up son of a *****. Sends his kids to Prep, looks down at the entire neighborhood. He has a big *** RV that he parks in the street on gameday week decked out in red and blue. Its in my way.

 

[thatsbaseball]

that looks like it`s worth $78,000 ?

 

[DaRealistDawg]

taking up all my new sidewalk that I paid for...the nerve

 

[RocketCityDawg]

Dawgs probably outnumber Rebels at least 5-1, maybe 10-1, since Ole Miss doesn't crank out a lot of rocket scientists.

Not that it matters. Who cares?

 

[MisissippiTimes]

about that **** town like the rich JP ole miss people

 

[Fletch Fletcher]

Here is recent map for the affinity car tag distribution in Mississippi. This is NOT a distribution of all alumni, but just the number car tags sold. I do think it provides a good rough estimate of how the fanbases are geographically divided.

 

[615dawg]

According to this:

Madison
MSU 52%
Ole Miss 48%
(most have said 50-50)

Rankin
MSU 58%
Ole Miss 42%
(most have said MSU 70-30)

Hinds
MSU 45%
Ole Miss 55%
(I would expect Clinton to me heavier MSU and Ole Miss to own NE Jackson)

Interesting that there are more Ole Miss tags in Oktibbeha than MSU tags in Lafayette.

 

[pDigital32Dawg]

86 graduating seniors.. 34 are heading to UM and 31 are heading to MSU. That is as close to 50-50 as I have seen at JA.

 

[fishwater99]

The two Ole Miss guys are doctors - one is alright but the one that is my neighbor is a straight up son of a *****. Sends his kids to Prep, looks down at the entire neighborhood. He has a big *** RV that he parks in the street on gameday week decked out in red and blue. Its in my way.

Sounds like he needs to be living in NE Jackson or Madison. I live in Belhaven and it's a little more Ole Miss than State, but I have no problem hanging with the Rebels in my hood, some good people do go to Ole Miss...

 

[Oxford Godfrey]

My fiance went to a private school (St. Fredrick's in Monroe, LA), and doesn't see why I loathe people who think a Jackson Prep education is somehow superior to a NWR/Brandon education (or Pisgah for that matter). She certainly understands my annoyance with their uppity culture, though.

 

[Oxford Godfrey]

nfm

 

[615dawg]

is why I'm not a big fan of private schools when there is a good public school around.

NWR's valedictorian received a full ride to Yale. That's not too shabby.

 

[patdog]

But if there are good public schools available, I can't imagine why anyone would spend that kind of money to send their kids to private school. Even if the private school education is better (which is debatable if you have good public schools), it wouldn't be much better. Certainly not enough better to justify the price.

 

[fishwater99]

I play in their BBall league, I live next to Prep grads, go to church with many a Prep grad, and I have no problems. There are always bad apples at any school, Prep just might have a few more rotten apples... Saying this I went to Warren Central, so I am not a private school product..

 

[RebelBruiser]

One poster estimated that currently it's more like Rankin=MSU, Madison is split and NE Jackson is Ole Miss. I'd agree with that.<div>
</div><div>My comments on the air were more about being in high school at NWR in the 90s and a black and gold high school being painted maroon. When I came to Mississippi in December of 96, NWR and Rankin County was all MSU. Having no dog in the hunt, I "cheered" for State when I first made friends, including the 97 Egg Bowl. Didn't really know any better (not a sleight, I'm saying I was just unfamiliar in general).</div><div>
</div><div>Rankin County was Bulldog country, and Ole Miss were "those ******** down Lakeland" (JP and JA), and "those faggots across the water." Over ten years later I think the distribution has changed dramatically, especially as Flowood exploded.</div><div>
</div><div>I'd still say that around my parents' social sphere - St. Mark's United Methodist, the north shore of the water, NWR families, it's still considerably more State than Ole Miss.</div><div>
</div><div>Part of the reason I've never really signed on to "hate State" is that it would seem I'm more State than Ole Miss when it comes to mystique of Jackson. I was corrected countless times in Oxford during my studies.</div><div>
</div><div>I'd say, "yeah I'm from Jackson, I moved there and finished out high school." I would then be informed by some JA prick that I was from Rankin County, which was the wastelands to them, not even Brandon or Madison. Old Jackson money Ole Miss people are insufferable. They treat being from Jackson like hailing from the Upper East Side of Manhattan. It's insane.</div><div>
</div><div>Now when that "element" of Ole Miss / Jacksonites ask where I went to high school, I just say, "I'm from the County, *****."</div><div>
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Agree with this part. They aren't THE worst part of our fanbase, but they're close to it.

I've always thought Jackson as a city was very comparable to Macon, Georgia, for those of you that know much about that area. Size-wise it's similar, and like Jackson, it has a large segment of the city that thinks they are in an elite club. There are a handful of private schools, and if you're anybody in Macon, you better have your kids in one of those private schools.

I have no problem with private schools themselves. In many situations, it's the best situation for your kid to be in, and you can pick and choose the people your children are exposed to. That's important, because your kids' friends shape their personality and actions in many ways. Growing up in Memphis, I can tell you that each private school in the city had its own distinct personality, and in that type of situation, you really can pick and choose which type of kids you wanted your children to be around based on the school you pick. That said, in Jackson and in Macon as well, it seems certain families think it's an elite club membership. Maybe it's because they're both smaller cities that have big city aspirations. I don't know.

 

[8dog]

for a lot of people and going to a smaller school gives someone the opportunity to play competitive sports.

 

[615dawg]

Some, not all, of the kids that play sports in the private school arena would have no chance at their area public school.

My nephew, for one. Plays three sports at University Christian. Is horrible in all three - barely plays at UCS. If it were NWR, he would not have the opportunity.

 

[Oxford Godfrey]

I have plenty of friends that went to both. Prep is sort of funny to me in that they're really just barely an "elite private school." Really they're like a public high school stuck on a highway that happens to have a tuition.

 

[HippyDawg]

Or is it that they want him to experience the "social lessons" that come from participating in team sports? I see lots of people on this board talk about the pussyfication of kids and giving out of ribbons regardless of where someone places but this seems no different to me. Not good enough to cut it then place Junior in a less demanding environment. What an awesome life lesson.

 

[dawgstudent]

I hated the most in Louisiana, it was St. Fredrick's. We got in a fight with them every time we played them in something.

 

[8dog]

I never would've been able to play at a public school. I can promise you this--for me, playing academy ball >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sitting in the stands at a public school game but soaking in a good life lesson. It was a damn good experience.

But I was never sent to my high school b/c of sports. I think its a factor for a lot of people though.

Hell, some of MRA's best players come FROM public schools, particularly NWR.

 

[paindonthurt_]

I did go to a private school but we are talking about a private school that graduated 31 people my senior year. Education wise i'd have done better at most public schools in the state as far as a resources standpoint goes.

 

[HippyDawg]

nm

 

[Maroon Eagle]

...the public schoolthat I would have attended wasn't all that great-- it beinga consistent level 2 (occasional level 1) school.

 

[8dog]

d

 

[dawgstudent]

Hacky-sack is not a MHSAA official sport.

 

[studentdawg87]

NT

 

[seshomoru]

is why I'm not a big fan of private schools when there is a good public school around.

NWR's valedictorian received a full ride to Yale. That's not too shabby.

Not a lot of Rankin County kids go to Prep. It's NE Jackson kids that went to First Presbyterian instead of JA.

 

[GloryDawg]

I have heard and I not so sure, but USM has a larger Allumi in the Jackson area then Ole Miss and State. Just what I heard and like I said I not so sure but I would like to see where they fall.

 

[Dental Dawg]

That's where they had some gianormous jackpot justice lawsuits.

 

[JimHalpert.nafoom]

nm

 

[jakldawg]

You're saying that, all other things being equal, (I'm assuming here) white people are valuing sports over education?
Because I've read that that NEVER happens in our society.
Somewhere.

 

[Porkchop.sixpack]

Elite Private school on the national scene, I totally agree. In fact, I would say they are NOT an elite private school in that regard. But, they are clearly an elite private school in MS in terms of their committment to excellence in everything they do. Now, as for their student body, it would suprise most people that a lot of them are not from what most would consider the elite of society (whatever the hell that means.) There are a LOT of people that send their kids to Prep that are neither wealthy nor living in NE Jackson. There are a lot of regular working folks that just have a very high priority on their kids' education. And there are a lot of people that drive 30-40 miles to school every day. The student body is actually fairly diverse for one that is so overwhelmingly white.