Classic example of anti-Christian bigotry that not only goes unpunished but applauded

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Cowherd applauds Kaep and ridicules Tebow (I'm sure he hated his kneeling to recognize God on the sidelines).

Cowherd: On his Thursday Fox Sports 1 radio show, Colin Cowherd slammed quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s courage for choosing to end his national anthem protest now that he is looking for a job in the NFL, calling the quarterback a “sellout.”




Cowherd Wants Tebow to Fail, Has No Time for Dreamers

By Jay Maxson | April 23, 2017 | 3:10 PM EDT

The New York Mets made a smart decision when they decided to give Tim Tebow a chance to play for their Class A farm team in Columbia, S.C. The Fireflies are selling more tickets and drawing more media attention than ever before, and Tebow is a marketing director’s dream come true.


Through 14 games, Tebow leads the team in home runs. He is third in runs-batted in. He has put the previously obscure Columbia Fireflies on the baseball map and single-handedly increased attendance 65 percent. Tebow is extremely popular with the fans, a leader on the team and – in an era of wife-beating, cop-hating, child-abusing athletes -- a model citizen. He’s only batting .196 (10-for-51), but he just had a 3-for-3 game.

Tebow deserves credit, not scorn. This should be the feel-good story of the year in baseball.

It’s not. Because in “America’s press box” a group of grinches are tearing Tebow down and hoping he fails. Their hearts are exceedingly small, and to them, Tebow’s field of dreams is Whoville and it’s Christmas Day. They aren’t talking about athletes with notoriety; they just want Tebow to fail.

Shannon Sharpe recently said Tebow shouldn’t even be given the chance to play baseball. ESPN’s David Fleming called Tebow a “grifter” who is profiting from failure.

Colin Cowherd, of Fox Sports 1, just said, "I'm rooting against Tim Tebow to walk into baseball and flourish." Cowherd ripped into the former Heisman Award winner and Denver Broncos’ starting quarterback:

“Why would we root for Tebow to be able to just step into baseball, which he didn’t play for 10 years, and excel? He’s a crappy Single-A player … and that’s great. Because what it shows you — Michael Jordan was a crappy Double-A player — is that you just can’t mail it in. To be a great attorney or teacher or scientist or engineer or landscaper or truck driver, it’s not just about, ‘Man, I’ve got a good attitude.’ Yeah, but Jim the truck driver has been doing it 47 years. He knows the routes. I don’t want to live in a world where you can just jump in a plane and fly it. I want the guy who put in the time and focus to be rewarded financially, emotionally, physically and be hard to replace.”

“I’m not saying I’m shooting down your dreams. But your dreams only count if they’re part of the big package of hard work, focus, putting in the time to accomplish your dream. I got no time for dreamers. I got time for dreamers who are putting in the legwork. Tim Tebow’s just a dreamer; he doesn’t wanna put in the time. … Tim Tebow didn’t work hard enough. Tebow is not willing to take the steps to be great. … He doesn’t deserve to play major league baseball. Or be a franchise quarterback.

Cowherd is dead wrong on every account. He is shooting down someone’s dream and he isn't paying attention. If starting a pro career in the South Atlantic League, the bus leagues, isn’t putting in the “legwork,” I don’t know what is. Scientists, pilots, engineers, truck drivers all got their start somewhere. Cowherd himself started his career calling minor league baseball games because someone gave him a chance to develop a career. They all began at the ground level and paid their dues, as Tebow is now doing.

While Cowherd makes his living in an air-conditioned studio running off his mouth, Tebow is working hard in the gym and on the field, sweating, grunting, lifting weights, running, hitting, practicing skills and training his body. As dedicated as they come, he didn’t win national championships, the Heisman Trophy or a starting NFL position by sitting on the couch eating chips. He worked his tail off then and now. He’s a gym rat, an extremely hard working athlete who loves training and pushing himself. He is all focus, all action. Cowherd doesn’t know the man he’s railing against.

While the bigots in the left-stream media are focusing on the negative, Tebow is pursuing a new career and making good progress. He's earned his spot in the lineup.
 

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Another example of Media=Lazy, stupid, biased, and wrong. Always wrong.
 

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Cowherd applauds Kaep and ridicules Tebow (I'm sure he hated his kneeling to recognize God on the sidelines).

Cowherd: On his Thursday Fox Sports 1 radio show, Colin Cowherd slammed quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s courage for choosing to end his national anthem protest now that he is looking for a job in the NFL, calling the quarterback a “sellout.”




Cowherd Wants Tebow to Fail, Has No Time for Dreamers

By Jay Maxson | April 23, 2017 | 3:10 PM EDT

The New York Mets made a smart decision when they decided to give Tim Tebow a chance to play for their Class A farm team in Columbia, S.C. The Fireflies are selling more tickets and drawing more media attention than ever before, and Tebow is a marketing director’s dream come true.


Through 14 games, Tebow leads the team in home runs. He is third in runs-batted in. He has put the previously obscure Columbia Fireflies on the baseball map and single-handedly increased attendance 65 percent. Tebow is extremely popular with the fans, a leader on the team and – in an era of wife-beating, cop-hating, child-abusing athletes -- a model citizen. He’s only batting .196 (10-for-51), but he just had a 3-for-3 game.

Tebow deserves credit, not scorn. This should be the feel-good story of the year in baseball.

It’s not. Because in “America’s press box” a group of grinches are tearing Tebow down and hoping he fails. Their hearts are exceedingly small, and to them, Tebow’s field of dreams is Whoville and it’s Christmas Day. They aren’t talking about athletes with notoriety; they just want Tebow to fail.

Shannon Sharpe recently said Tebow shouldn’t even be given the chance to play baseball. ESPN’s David Fleming called Tebow a “grifter” who is profiting from failure.

Colin Cowherd, of Fox Sports 1, just said, "I'm rooting against Tim Tebow to walk into baseball and flourish." Cowherd ripped into the former Heisman Award winner and Denver Broncos’ starting quarterback:

“Why would we root for Tebow to be able to just step into baseball, which he didn’t play for 10 years, and excel? He’s a crappy Single-A player … and that’s great. Because what it shows you — Michael Jordan was a crappy Double-A player — is that you just can’t mail it in. To be a great attorney or teacher or scientist or engineer or landscaper or truck driver, it’s not just about, ‘Man, I’ve got a good attitude.’ Yeah, but Jim the truck driver has been doing it 47 years. He knows the routes. I don’t want to live in a world where you can just jump in a plane and fly it. I want the guy who put in the time and focus to be rewarded financially, emotionally, physically and be hard to replace.”

“I’m not saying I’m shooting down your dreams. But your dreams only count if they’re part of the big package of hard work, focus, putting in the time to accomplish your dream. I got no time for dreamers. I got time for dreamers who are putting in the legwork. Tim Tebow’s just a dreamer; he doesn’t wanna put in the time. … Tim Tebow didn’t work hard enough. Tebow is not willing to take the steps to be great. … He doesn’t deserve to play major league baseball. Or be a franchise quarterback.

Cowherd is dead wrong on every account. He is shooting down someone’s dream and he isn't paying attention. If starting a pro career in the South Atlantic League, the bus leagues, isn’t putting in the “legwork,” I don’t know what is. Scientists, pilots, engineers, truck drivers all got their start somewhere. Cowherd himself started his career calling minor league baseball games because someone gave him a chance to develop a career. They all began at the ground level and paid their dues, as Tebow is now doing.

While Cowherd makes his living in an air-conditioned studio running off his mouth, Tebow is working hard in the gym and on the field, sweating, grunting, lifting weights, running, hitting, practicing skills and training his body. As dedicated as they come, he didn’t win national championships, the Heisman Trophy or a starting NFL position by sitting on the couch eating chips. He worked his tail off then and now. He’s a gym rat, an extremely hard working athlete who loves training and pushing himself. He is all focus, all action. Cowherd doesn’t know the man he’s railing against.

While the bigots in the left-stream media are focusing on the negative, Tebow is pursuing a new career and making good progress. He's earned his spot in the lineup.
Thanks for the idiotic post. Did you even read the text that you posted? Your thread headline is complete BS. Show me where they took Tebow to task for his religious beliefs? smh
 

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Thanks for the idiotic post. Did you even read the text that you posted? Your thread headline is complete BS. Show me where they took Tebow to task for his religious beliefs? smh

Why does he hate Tebow so much that he doesn't even want him to be given a chance at baseball let alone succeed? The article makes clear Tebow is starting at the bottom of the ladder. America is all about working hard, getting a start and then moving up that ladder to success. Tebow was reviled by sport writers and some athletes for his obvious praise of God. There can be no other reason. I can post many links of sport writers vilifying Tebow for his religious expression if you like, but google is your friend.
 

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Why does he hate Tebow so much that he doesn't even want him to be given a chance at baseball let alone succeed? The article makes clear Tebow is starting at the bottom of the ladder. America is all about working hard, getting a start and then moving up that ladder to success. Tebow was reviled by sport writers and some athletes for his obvious praise of God. There can be no other reason. I can post many links of sport writers vilifying Tebow for his religious expression if you like, but google is your friend.
You are finding what you want to find. The overarching complaints about Tebow was based on his ability as a QB, not anything about his religious beliefs.

I'm not a huge Tebow fan. I thought he was overrated when he left college. He was a great college QB whose talents didn't translate to the NFL. I'd put Pat White in the same category. Both are good character, team-first guys who don't have the skills necessary to lead an NFL team. I wish both success, but extended time away from baseball hurts both of their chances to succeed in that sport professionally. The difference between the two on that issue is the celebrity of Tebow, and his ability to fill seats. I honestly don't see Tebow moving through the ranks in the major league.
 

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Why does he hate Tebow so much that he doesn't even want him to be given a chance at baseball let alone succeed? The article makes clear Tebow is starting at the bottom of the ladder. America is all about working hard, getting a start and then moving up that ladder to success. Tebow was reviled by sport writers and some athletes for his obvious praise of God. There can be no other reason. I can post many links of sport writers vilifying Tebow for his religious expression if you like, but google is your friend.
Why must you make up things? some call it lying. You say you're all about the facts. The quotes that you provide don't support your blatantly false thread headline. If you want to whine about religious people getting treated poorly for their beliefs surely there are examples out there without having to invent something. Leave your half baked conspiracy theories elsewhere and just go by what people say or do.
 

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Why must you make up things? some call it lying. You say you're all about the facts. The quotes that you provide don't support your blatantly false thread headline. If you want to whine about religious people getting treated poorly for their beliefs surely there are examples out there without having to invent something. Leave your half baked conspiracy theories elsewhere and just go by what people say or do.
And Tebow is doing fine last I looked, I doubt he is as unsecure with his faith.
 

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You are finding what you want to find. The overarching complaints about Tebow was based on his ability as a QB, not anything about his religious beliefs.

I'm not a huge Tebow fan. I thought he was overrated when he left college. He was a great college QB whose talents didn't translate to the NFL. I'd put Pat White in the same category. Both are good character, team-first guys who don't have the skills necessary to lead an NFL team. I wish both success, but extended time away from baseball hurts both of their chances to succeed in that sport professionally. The difference between the two on that issue is the celebrity of Tebow, and his ability to fill seats. I honestly don't see Tebow moving through the ranks in the major league.

Your post is mostly accurate. But why root against Tebow making it in baseball? Cowherd's arguments are unpersuasive and just flat out incorrect. Tebow is starting at the bottom just as Cowherd did when he began his career. Why root for him to fail? What did Tebow do to Cowherd to warrant this kind of hatred? Rooting for someone to fail means you have a personal animus.

And apparently you did not read the articles on Tebow expressing displeasure at his thanking God while on the football field. Yet many of those same reported lauded Kaep for his sideline antics.
 

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Why must you make up things? some call it lying. You say you're all about the facts. The quotes that you provide don't support your blatantly false thread headline. If you want to whine about religious people getting treated poorly for their beliefs surely there are examples out there without having to invent something. Leave your half baked conspiracy theories elsewhere and just go by what people say or do.

I do go based on what people say and do. Explain why Cowherd wants Tebow to fail? What reason would any American want another American to fail unless there is personal animus. What is that animus? Just one page of google:

A Quarterback Controversy Involving God - The New York Times
www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/.../in-tebow-debate-a-clash-of-faith-and-football.html
Nov 7, 2011 - Online, the torrent of mockery and criticism has been fierce. Blog posts included “ Godexplains why he let Tim Tebow fail” and Twitter exploded ...
Christian NFL Player Tim Tebow Takes Heat for His Faith
www.thenewamerican.com/.../834-christian-nfl-player-tim-tebow-takes-heat-for-his-f...
Dec 2, 2011 - He openly prays on the sidelines and even on the field when he has thrown a touchdown. Tebow is often seen taking a knee, either in prayers of gratitude or in ... “I think the linebacker for the Lions was attempting to not mock God, but ... is born, like Tebow, he becomes the subject of criticismand mockery.
'We Don't Pray on Sidelines': Ravens Player Slams Tebow's 'Need' for ...
www.theblaze.com/.../we-dont-pray-on-sidelines-ravens-player-slams-tebows-need-for-g...
Jan 4, 2012 - 'We Don't Pray on Sidelines': Ravens Player Slams Tebow's 'Need' for ..... But, here in Texas, we thank God just for the fact that we live in Texas. ..... All Tebow would need to get his criticsto kiss his a$$ would be to lie and say ...
Double Standard: Tim Tebow Was Celebrated For Action That Got ...
sports.politicususa.com/.../double-standard-tim-tebow-was-celebrated-for-action-that-...
Sep 30, 2014 - In fact, former quarterback Tim Tebow became a Christian hero for .... in prayer, in the endzone, or did he wait until he was on the sideline, if it was in ... Why when a black players kneels and thanks god, why isn't he criticized?
The weird 'controversy' of Tim Tebow | New York Post
nypost.com/2011/12/06/the-weird-controversy-of-tim-tebow/
Dec 6, 2011 - Tebow is respectful, wholesome and a man of God. ... A player who embodies everything meant by the cliché “role model” is for his critics a figure of fun, or even hatred. ... The New York Giants famously prayed on the sideline during Super ... Major League Baseball players are always thankingThe Almighty ...
Tebow to Plummer: I'll take every opportunity to praise the Lord ...
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/.../tebow-to-plummer-ill-take-every-opportunity-to-pra...
Nov 22, 2011 - Plummer was objecting to Tebow saying “I love Jesus” to the public, and saying it in just ... “Thank you,” Tebow reiterated he would say to Plummer, “for the ... this reminds me of the former redskin sideline reporter reiterating how he ... you quit instead of being traded so who are you to criticize anyone else?

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Jan 4, 2012 - Suggs on Tebow: “We don't need God on our sidelines” ... shoulders, thanks to a pair of beatings that the Ravens administered in 2011. .... (a hate group), Tebow opens himself up to criticismon his religious views in ways that ...
Tim Tebow's Spontaneous Prayers on the Field an NFL Tradition?
www.christianpost.com/.../tim-tebows-spontaneous-prayers-on-the-field-an-nfl-traditi...
Nov 30, 2011 - ... Warner famously said "thank you Jesus," which sparked a career chockfull ... Tebowhas drawn criticism from fellow NFL players, including former Denver ... we know that he loves JesusChrist, then I think I'll like him even better." ... Joe Namath used to wear a full-length fur coat on the sidelines of games.
Tim Tebow's gridiron faith sparks praise, comedic bits and criticism ...
www.post-gazette.com/life/lifestyle/2012/...Tebow-s...criticism/.../201201080182
Jan 8, 2012 - He thanks God at every opportunity. ... Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow bows his head on the sidelines after scoring a touchdown ...
 
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I do go based on what people say and do. Explain why Cowherd wants Tebow to fail? What reason would any American want another American to fail unless there is personal animus. What is that animus? Just one page of google:

A Quarterback Controversy Involving God - The New York Times
www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/.../in-tebow-debate-a-clash-of-faith-and-football.html
Nov 7, 2011 - Online, the torrent of mockery and criticism has been fierce. Blog posts included “ Godexplains why he let Tim Tebow fail” and Twitter exploded ...
Christian NFL Player Tim Tebow Takes Heat for His Faith
www.thenewamerican.com/.../834-christian-nfl-player-tim-tebow-takes-heat-for-his-f...
Dec 2, 2011 - He openly prays on the sidelines and even on the field when he has thrown a touchdown. Tebow is often seen taking a knee, either in prayers of gratitude or in ... “I think the linebacker for the Lions was attempting to not mock God, but ... is born, like Tebow, he becomes the subject of criticismand mockery.
'We Don't Pray on Sidelines': Ravens Player Slams Tebow's 'Need' for ...
www.theblaze.com/.../we-dont-pray-on-sidelines-ravens-player-slams-tebows-need-for-g...
Jan 4, 2012 - 'We Don't Pray on Sidelines': Ravens Player Slams Tebow's 'Need' for ..... But, here in Texas, we thank God just for the fact that we live in Texas. ..... All Tebow would need to get his criticsto kiss his a$$ would be to lie and say ...
Double Standard: Tim Tebow Was Celebrated For Action That Got ...
sports.politicususa.com/.../double-standard-tim-tebow-was-celebrated-for-action-that-...
Sep 30, 2014 - In fact, former quarterback Tim Tebow became a Christian hero for .... in prayer, in the endzone, or did he wait until he was on the sideline, if it was in ... Why when a black players kneels and thanks god, why isn't he criticized?
The weird 'controversy' of Tim Tebow | New York Post
nypost.com/2011/12/06/the-weird-controversy-of-tim-tebow/
Dec 6, 2011 - Tebow is respectful, wholesome and a man of God. ... A player who embodies everything meant by the cliché “role model” is for his critics a figure of fun, or even hatred. ... The New York Giants famously prayed on the sideline during Super ... Major League Baseball players are always thankingThe Almighty ...
Tebow to Plummer: I'll take every opportunity to praise the Lord ...
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/.../tebow-to-plummer-ill-take-every-opportunity-to-pra...
Nov 22, 2011 - Plummer was objecting to Tebow saying “I love Jesus” to the public, and saying it in just ... “Thank you,” Tebow reiterated he would say to Plummer, “for the ... this reminds me of the former redskin sideline reporter reiterating how he ... you quit instead of being traded so who are you to criticize anyone else?

Images for tebow criticized for thanking god on sidelines
More images for tebow criticized for thanking god on sidelinesSuggs on Tebow: “We don't need God on our sidelines ...[/paste:font]
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/.../suggs-on-tebow-we-dont-need-god-on-our-sidelines...
Jan 4, 2012 - Suggs on Tebow: “We don't need God on our sidelines” ... shoulders, thanks to a pair of beatings that the Ravens administered in 2011. .... (a hate group), Tebow opens himself up to criticismon his religious views in ways that ...
Tim Tebow's Spontaneous Prayers on the Field an NFL Tradition?
www.christianpost.com/.../tim-tebows-spontaneous-prayers-on-the-field-an-nfl-traditi...
Nov 30, 2011 - ... Warner famously said "thank you Jesus," which sparked a career chockfull ... Tebowhas drawn criticism from fellow NFL players, including former Denver ... we know that he loves JesusChrist, then I think I'll like him even better." ... Joe Namath used to wear a full-length fur coat on the sidelines of games.
Tim Tebow's gridiron faith sparks praise, comedic bits and criticism ...
www.post-gazette.com/life/lifestyle/2012/...Tebow-s...criticism/.../201201080182
Jan 8, 2012 - He thanks God at every opportunity. ... Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow bows his head on the sidelines after scoring a touchdown ...

Geez. Go get a crying towel FFS.
 

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I do go based on what people say and do. Explain why Cowherd wants Tebow to fail? What reason would any American want another American to fail unless there is personal animus. What is that animus? Just one page of google:

A Quarterback Controversy Involving God - The New York Times
www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/.../in-tebow-debate-a-clash-of-faith-and-football.html
Nov 7, 2011 - Online, the torrent of mockery and criticism has been fierce. Blog posts included “ Godexplains why he let Tim Tebow fail” and Twitter exploded ...
Christian NFL Player Tim Tebow Takes Heat for His Faith
www.thenewamerican.com/.../834-christian-nfl-player-tim-tebow-takes-heat-for-his-f...
Dec 2, 2011 - He openly prays on the sidelines and even on the field when he has thrown a touchdown. Tebow is often seen taking a knee, either in prayers of gratitude or in ... “I think the linebacker for the Lions was attempting to not mock God, but ... is born, like Tebow, he becomes the subject of criticismand mockery.
'We Don't Pray on Sidelines': Ravens Player Slams Tebow's 'Need' for ...
www.theblaze.com/.../we-dont-pray-on-sidelines-ravens-player-slams-tebows-need-for-g...
Jan 4, 2012 - 'We Don't Pray on Sidelines': Ravens Player Slams Tebow's 'Need' for ..... But, here in Texas, we thank God just for the fact that we live in Texas. ..... All Tebow would need to get his criticsto kiss his a$$ would be to lie and say ...
Double Standard: Tim Tebow Was Celebrated For Action That Got ...
sports.politicususa.com/.../double-standard-tim-tebow-was-celebrated-for-action-that-...
Sep 30, 2014 - In fact, former quarterback Tim Tebow became a Christian hero for .... in prayer, in the endzone, or did he wait until he was on the sideline, if it was in ... Why when a black players kneels and thanks god, why isn't he criticized?
The weird 'controversy' of Tim Tebow | New York Post
nypost.com/2011/12/06/the-weird-controversy-of-tim-tebow/
Dec 6, 2011 - Tebow is respectful, wholesome and a man of God. ... A player who embodies everything meant by the cliché “role model” is for his critics a figure of fun, or even hatred. ... The New York Giants famously prayed on the sideline during Super ... Major League Baseball players are always thankingThe Almighty ...
Tebow to Plummer: I'll take every opportunity to praise the Lord ...
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/.../tebow-to-plummer-ill-take-every-opportunity-to-pra...
Nov 22, 2011 - Plummer was objecting to Tebow saying “I love Jesus” to the public, and saying it in just ... “Thank you,” Tebow reiterated he would say to Plummer, “for the ... this reminds me of the former redskin sideline reporter reiterating how he ... you quit instead of being traded so who are you to criticize anyone else?

Images for tebow criticized for thanking god on sidelines
More images for tebow criticized for thanking god on sidelinesSuggs on Tebow: “We don't need God on our sidelines ...[/paste:font]
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/.../suggs-on-tebow-we-dont-need-god-on-our-sidelines...
Jan 4, 2012 - Suggs on Tebow: “We don't need God on our sidelines” ... shoulders, thanks to a pair of beatings that the Ravens administered in 2011. .... (a hate group), Tebow opens himself up to criticismon his religious views in ways that ...
Tim Tebow's Spontaneous Prayers on the Field an NFL Tradition?
www.christianpost.com/.../tim-tebows-spontaneous-prayers-on-the-field-an-nfl-traditi...
Nov 30, 2011 - ... Warner famously said "thank you Jesus," which sparked a career chockfull ... Tebowhas drawn criticism from fellow NFL players, including former Denver ... we know that he loves JesusChrist, then I think I'll like him even better." ... Joe Namath used to wear a full-length fur coat on the sidelines of games.
Tim Tebow's gridiron faith sparks praise, comedic bits and criticism ...
www.post-gazette.com/life/lifestyle/2012/...Tebow-s...criticism/.../201201080182
Jan 8, 2012 - He thanks God at every opportunity. ... Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow bows his head on the sidelines after scoring a touchdown ...

How does anyone legitimately argue that the bias against Tebow is because of his professed Faith?

Those Leftists making fun of him think he's an ignorant jerk, not because of his lacking in physical talent.They think he's mentally screwed up only because he loves God and isn't afraid to express it boldly.

Most Leftists would just prefer him to shut up as they do virtually all Christians. For them to pretend it's anything less than outright bigotry or hatred of his expressed Christianity is a bold faced lie.
 

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How does anyone legitimately argue that the bias against Tebow is because of his professed Faith?

Those Leftists making fun of him think he's an ignorant jerk, not because of his lacking in physical talent.They think he's mentally screwed up only because he loves God and isn't afraid to express it boldly.

Most Leftists would just prefer him to shut up as they do virtually all Christians. For them to pretend it's anything less than outright bigotry or hatred of his expressed Christianity is a bold faced lie.

Remember how insane the left went when he claimed he was a virgin and was going to wait until marriage? They went ballistic.
 

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Remember how insane the left went when he claimed he was a virgin and was going to wait until marriage? They went ballistic.

Good point! They hate his guts and do nothing but mock his Faith.
 

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You are finding what you want to find. The overarching complaints about Tebow was based on his ability as a QB, not anything about his religious beliefs.

I'm not a huge Tebow fan. I thought he was overrated when he left college. He was a great college QB whose talents didn't translate to the NFL. I'd put Pat White in the same category. Both are good character, team-first guys who don't have the skills necessary to lead an NFL team. I wish both success, but extended time away from baseball hurts both of their chances to succeed in that sport professionally. The difference between the two on that issue is the celebrity of Tebow, and his ability to fill seats. I honestly don't see Tebow moving through the ranks in the major league.
I usually agree with your posts and I agree with everything in this one except the religion part. Tebow was/is the recipient of countless snide remarks,lampooning cartoons and other barbs directed his way based on how he publicly demonstrates his faith. This baseball thing is the same as Bill Veeck and his midget batsman charade.....nothing but an attempt to draw publicity and a better gate.
 

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You posted it and Cowherd explained it. Why can't you just read his words and comprehend?

I did read his words, but his words make zero sense. He is lying about his true motive for not wanting Tebow to succeed. Coward wrote this:

“Why would we root for Tebow to be able to just step into baseball, which he didn’t play for 10 years, and excel? He’s a crappy Single-A player … and that’s great. Because what it shows you — Michael Jordan was a crappy Double-A player — is that you just can’t mail it in. To be a great attorney or teacher or scientist or engineer or landscaper or truck driver, it’s not just about, ‘Man, I’ve got a good attitude.’ Yeah, but Jim the truck driver has been doing it 47 years. He knows the routes. I don’t want to live in a world where you can just jump in a plane and fly it. I want the guy who put in the time and focus to be rewarded financially, emotionally, physically and be hard to replace.”

But Tebow IS starting at the bottom, single A. He is paying his dues. He may make it to the pros, he may not, But he is not being given anything by the club. He has to earn it. Why is Cowherd rooting against him? Why would anyone unless they detest him?
 

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I usually agree with your posts and I agree with everything in this one except the religion part. Tebow was/is the recipient of countless snide remarks,lampooning cartoons and other barbs directed his way based on how he publicly demonstrated his faith. This baseball thing is the same as Bill Veeck and his midget batsman charade.....nothing but an attempt to draw publicity and a better gate.

Don't believe you last sentence. Tebow is a gate attraction for sure, no doubt about that. Most people (non liberals) want him to succeed especially in the heartland. But the kid has talent. He is only hitting .200 but leads in home runs and is 3rd in RBI's. Not bad for someone that has been away from the game for as long as he has. I'm not saying he makes it to the pros, but he is not a sideshow.
 

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I did read his words, but his words make zero sense.
So I guess you flunked the "comprehend" part, sorry to hear that but that happens to you a lot on here. I read his comments, the concepts were simple and easy to understand. He is a sideshow and he's probably taking the place on the roster of someone with more talent but who can't put butts in the seats like Tebow is doing.
 

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I did read his words, but his words make zero sense. He is lying about his true motive for not wanting Tebow to succeed. Coward wrote this:

“Why would we root for Tebow to be able to just step into baseball, which he didn’t play for 10 years, and excel? He’s a crappy Single-A player … and that’s great. Because what it shows you — Michael Jordan was a crappy Double-A player — is that you just can’t mail it in. To be a great attorney or teacher or scientist or engineer or landscaper or truck driver, it’s not just about, ‘Man, I’ve got a good attitude.’ Yeah, but Jim the truck driver has been doing it 47 years. He knows the routes. I don’t want to live in a world where you can just jump in a plane and fly it. I want the guy who put in the time and focus to be rewarded financially, emotionally, physically and be hard to replace.”

But Tebow IS starting at the bottom, single A. He is paying his dues. He may make it to the pros, he may not, But he is not being given anything by the club. He has to earn it. Why is Cowherd rooting against him? Why would anyone unless they detest him?
Hey paxxx, I'm hoping Tebow succeeds....but I wonder, would you have the same passion for this endeavor if it was James Franco or Colin Kaepernick doing it? I imagine your desire to see him succeed (and not be ridiculed) is the fact that's he's a hardcore Christian.
 

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So I guess you flunked the "comprehend" part, sorry to hear that but that happens to you a lot on here. I read his comments, the concepts were simple and easy to understand. He is a sideshow and he's probably taking the place on the roster of someone with more talent but who can't put butts in the seats like Tebow is doing.

Well then more power to him moe...this is America...get paid if you can!

If Cowherd doesn't think he has lasting baseball talent he can express that without personally denigrating the guy. Predicting his failure, or worse advocating for it goes beyond a simple assessment of his (Tebow's) lack of talent.

It's personal and I agree with Pax is probably because Cowherd is a Christian bigot.
 

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So I guess you flunked the "comprehend" part, sorry to hear that but that happens to you a lot on here. I read his comments, the concepts were simple and easy to understand. He is a sideshow and he's probably taking the place on the roster of someone with more talent but who can't put butts in the seats like Tebow is doing.

LMAO. You're the one not comprehending. Cowherd wants him to fail because he is not starting at the bottom. But the fact is, Tebow is starting at the bottom. Let me repost Cowherd's excuse:

“Why would we root for Tebow to be able to just step into baseball, which he didn’t play for 10 years, and excel? He’s a crappy Single-A player … and that’s great. Because what it shows you — Michael Jordan was a crappy Double-A player — is that you just can’t mail it in. To be a great attorney or teacher or scientist or engineer or landscaper or truck driver, it’s not just about, ‘Man, I’ve got a good attitude.’ Yeah, but Jim the truck driver has been doing it 47 years. He knows the routes. I don’t want to live in a world where you can just jump in a plane and fly it. I want the guy who put in the time and focus to be rewarded financially, emotionally, physically and be hard to replace.”

How is Tebow not doing exactly what Cowherd describes? He is starting in Single A ball for God's sake. He is putting in the time and is focused. Single A ball is as low as you get. He is not getting to just step in and play in the majors. He has to earn it.

If you don't think this is faith based, read more of Cowherd's comments:

On the Monday broadcast of “The Herd” on Fox Sports 1, host Colin Cowherd blamed former NFL quarterback Tim Tebow’s “faith-based, crazy fans” for Tebow being out of a job at this point in his career.


According to Cowherd, Tebow can still play in the NFL due to his athleticism, but “his fans ended up hurting him.”

“I think with Tebow, his fans ended up hurting him,” he said. “I think Tebow’s fans hurt Tebow more than Tebow. Nobody wants Tebow because his faith-based, crazy fans that take over the stadium. That’s why Denver had to go out and get Peyton Manning, because Tebowmania took over Denver. Tim’s a good enough athlete to be on every roster in this league, absolutely.”
 

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Hey paxxx, I'm hoping Tebow succeeds....but I wonder, would you have the same passion for this endeavor if it was James Franco or Colin Kaepernick doing it? I imagine your desire to see him succeed (and not be ridiculed) is the fact that's he's a hardcore Christian.
Why would you want Colon Kaeperdick to succeed? You think someone sporting "fry the pig cops" socks deserves our support? Who in hell is James Franco?
 

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Hey paxxx, I'm hoping Tebow succeeds....but I wonder, would you have the same passion for this endeavor if it was James Franco or Colin Kaepernick doing it? I imagine your desire to see him succeed (and not be ridiculed) is the fact that's he's a hardcore Christian.

Not sure what an actor has to do with this debate. I have never rooted against Kaep. I thought and still think his protest was counter productive. I thought he was very disrespectful to those that sacrificed it all. And I believe his anti police rhetoric will actually cost more black lives. But I was ambivalent at best when it came to his career. But you are actually making my point. Your very question assumes that I have something against Kaep and therefore want him to fail.

Isn't that exactly what Cowherd is doing? He has something against Tebow and wants him to fail. That something is Tebow's religion and his demonstrating of his faith on the field (despite the fact that many athletes do this).
 

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demonstrating of his faith on the field (despite the fact that many athletes do this).
I guess that Boom was/is not aware of all the religious crap the phony ******* Kaeperdick has tattooed all over his body.
 

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Not sure what an actor has to do with this debate. I have never rooted against Kaep. I thought and still think his protest was counter productive. I thought he was very disrespectful to those that sacrificed it all. And I believe his anti police rhetoric will actually cost more black lives. But I was ambivalent at best when it came to his career. But you are actually making my point. Your very question assumes that I have something against Kaep and therefore want him to fail.

Isn't that exactly what Cowherd is doing? He has something against Tebow and wants him to fail. That something is Tebow's religion and his demonstrating of his faith on the field (despite the fact that many athletes do this).
Seems like religion drives your desire to see Tebow succeed and also your desire to defend him?

Seems to me that Coward (misspelled on purpose cause I don't like him at all), is expounding on the gimmick of famous people "getting a shot" when so many will be denied that chance. Maybe he doesn't like Christians , I don't know, you know his religious affiliation?

But your passionate defense of Tebow seems to have nothing to do with people being fair, or balanced, and everything to do with the fact that Christians shouldn't be scrutinized. My examples were attempts to choose people who are in opposition to your belief systems, and question if the similarities of your beliefs with Tebow was more motivation that you think. If kap switched sports on a whim, I'd bet you might agree with Coward's assessment. Maybe I'm wrong
 

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I guess that Boom was/is not aware of all the religious crap the phony ******* Kaeperdick has tattooed all over his body.
I'm not as interested in his body as you. None the less, the example was legitimate. Tebow and Kap have many differences that would probably influence someone's desire to see them succeed.
 

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Tebow and Kap have many differences that would probably influence someone's desire to see them succeed.
Yes....Tebow has never advocated violence against law officiators nor disrespected the ideals of the flag. the ******* Kaeperdick has done both.....I want no parts of him....you can have him all to yourself.
 

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Seems like religion drives your desire to see Tebow succeed and also your desire to defend him?

Seems to me that Coward (misspelled on purpose cause I don't like him at all), is expounding on the gimmick of famous people "getting a shot" when so many will be denied that chance. Maybe he doesn't like Christians , I don't know, you know his religious affiliation?

But your passionate defense of Tebow seems to have nothing to do with people being fair, or balanced, and everything to do with the fact that Christians shouldn't be scrutinized. My examples were attempts to choose people who are in opposition to your belief systems, and question if the similarities of your beliefs with Tebow was more motivation that you think. If kap switched sports on a whim, I'd bet you might agree with Coward's assessment. Maybe I'm wrong

You're probably right that I would like to see Tebow succeed because of his faith. That is fair. It is also fair to see the counter, that people want him to fail for the same reason, right? Cowherd falls into that category and I have posted evidence to that fact. The question is why?

How do you know that Tebow did not earn that chance in A ball? How does Cowherd? After all, Tebow is leading the team in home runs, 3rd in RBI's and is a tremendous, tremendous athlete. It appears he has earned his shot at the bottom rung of the ladder.

I just don't understand anti-Christian bigotry when I know that if other religions were involved (e.g. Muslim), the sentiment would be the exact opposite. Cowherd would be praying for a Muslim's success.

If you read Cowherd's opinion piece, it makes zero sense since Tebow is starting at the bottom of the baseball barrel.
 

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Yes....Tebow has never advocated violence against law officiators nor disrespected the ideals of the flag. the ******* Kaeperdick has done both.....I want no parts of him....you can have him all to yourself.
What makes you think I like Kap? I'm a Bengals fan, I dislike everyone that wore an SF on the side of their helmet.

However, I don't think Kap did either of the things you apparently are saying he did, imo.
 

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I'm not as interested in his body as you. None the less, the example was legitimate. Tebow and Kap have many differences that would probably influence someone's desire to see them succeed.

This is very true. Kaep has alienated wide swaths of people for his anti-American (many people view it this way whether it is true or not) and anti-police stance. The only thing Tebow has ever done is to profess his faith. Two very different scenarios, imo.
 

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I'm not as interested in his body as you. None the less, the example was legitimate. Tebow and Kap have many differences that would probably influence someone's desire to see them succeed.

It seems you are acknowledging anti-Christian bigotry. Thanks.
 

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Not sure what an actor has to do with this debate. I have never rooted against Kaep. I thought and still think his protest was counter productive. I thought he was very disrespectful to those that sacrificed it all. And I believe his anti police rhetoric will actually cost more black lives. But I was ambivalent at best when it came to his career. But you are actually making my point. Your very question assumes that I have something against Kaep and therefore want him to fail.

Isn't that exactly what Cowherd is doing? He has something against Tebow and wants him to fail. That something is Tebow's religion and his demonstrating of his faith on the field (despite the fact that many athletes do this).

Good call Pax well said.
 

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You're probably right that I would like to see Tebow succeed because of his faith. That is fair. It is also fair to see the counter, that people want him to fail for the same reason, right? Cowherd falls into that category and I have posted evidence to that fact. The question is why?

How do you know that Tebow did not earn that chance in A ball? How does Cowherd? After all, Tebow is leading the team in home runs, 3rd in RBI's and is a tremendous, tremendous athlete. It appears he has earned his shot at the bottom rung of the ladder.

I just don't understand anti-Christian bigotry when I know that if other religions were involved (e.g. Muslim), the sentiment would be the exact opposite. Cowherd would be praying for a Muslim's success.

If you read Cowherd's opinion piece, it makes zero sense since Tebow is starting at the bottom of the baseball barrel.
Thanks for being honest.

I want him to succeed. I'm not a Christian, but I can't understand how anyone would NOT see someone that spends summers helping poverty stricken children overseas as a great example of American spirit.

His point may be more towards not allowing a young on the bubble talent from getting that bottom of the barrel shot. But I agree that Tebow is a good thing, just like Jordan. Might be taking a spot, but he does in fact boost revenue. Plus pure athletic ability is obvious in Tebow's case.

Coward is just shooting his mouth off for ratings. I can't watch any sports talk anymore other than Mike and Mike.