Clear message after 3 rounds of NFL draft

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Only SEVEN of the 97 picks were NOT from Power-5 conferences. The message is clear: If you want to be drafted for the NFL, play for a Power-5 team.

The days of Grambling and other lesser powers grabbing the spotlight may be over. With the money clustered in the Power-5 teams, the imbalance of talent between Power-5 and non-Power 5 will only widen.

Maybe I missed some, but Northern Iowa, UConn, Texas State, Hobart & William Smith, Central Florida, Miami of Ohio, Florida Atlantic and Samford were the only non-Power-5 players I saw among the 97 drafted in the first three rounds.
 

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This has not been a good draft for the Big 12, even if you adjust for it having fewer schools than the other Power-5 leagues.

The Pac-12 leads with 25 picks followed by the SEC (22) and the ACC (20). The Big Ten has 15, while only 7 players from the Big 12 went in the first three rounds.

Team leaders are Florida State with 6, Stanford and Miami, both with 5, and five schools with 4 apiece -- Washington, Louisville, Florida, Missouri and Oregon.

Not sure what it means, except that many of the Big 12's best players will be back in the fall. That's certainly true in Morgantown.
 

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1. PAC-12: 25 PLAYERS
1. 1ST ROUND 9 PLAYERS:
WASH 3
OREGON 2
USC 2
STANFORD
ASU
3. 2ND ROUND 6 PLAYERS:
WASH
UCLA
UTAH 2
OREGON
STANFORD
1. 3RD ROUND 10 PLAYERS:

UTAH
ASU
OREGON
UCLA
STANFORD 3
OREGON STATE 2
WSU


2. SEC: 21 PLAYERS
3. 1ST ROUND 7 PLAYERS:
FLORIDA 2
BAMA
UGA
A&M
KENTUCKY
MIZZOU
1. 2ND ROUND 8 PLAYERS:
BAMA 2
MISSY STATE 2
LSU
MIZZOU 2
OLE MISS

3. 3RD ROUND 6 PLAYERS:
SOUTH CAROLINA
UGA
AUBURN
LSU
FLORIDA 2

3. ACC: 20 PLAYERS
1. 1ST ROUND 9 PLAYERS:
FSU 2
CLEMSON 2
MIAMI 2
ULOU
WAKE
DUKE
4. 2ND ROUND 4 PLAYERS:
FSU 3
MIAMI
2. 3RD ROUND 7 PLAYERS:
MIAMI 2
ULOU 3
FSU
UVA


4. BIG-10: 15 PLAYERS
4. 1ST ROUND 3 PLAYERS:
IOWA
MSU
WISKY
1. 2ND ROUND 8 PLAYERS:
PENN STATE
OHIO STATE
MICHIGAN 2
NEBRASKA 2
MINNY
WISKY

4/5. 3RD ROUND 4 PLAYERS:
INDIANA
RUTGERS
IOWA
OHIO STATE


5. BIG-12: 8 PLAYERS
5. 1ST ROUND 2 PLAYERS:
WVU
TEXAS
5. 2ND ROUND 2 PLAYERS:
OU 2
4/5. 3RD ROUND 4 PLAYERS:
KSU
TEXAS
OU
TCU


NON-POWER CONFERENCES 10 PLAYERS:
1ST ROUND 2 PLAYERS:
UCF
UCONN
2ND ROUND 4 PLAYERS:
SAMFORD
COLORADO STATE
HOBART
MIAMI OHIO
3RD ROUND 4 PLAYERS:

FLORIDA ATLANTIC
COLORADO STATE
TEXAS STATE
NORTHERN ILLINOIS


LINK:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/drafttracker


ANY AND ALL ERRORS WELCOME THE CORRECTIONS, THANKS IN ADVANCE!
 
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Not sure what it means, except that many of the Big 12's best players will be back in the fall. That's certainly true in Morgantown.
A lot of people on these boards and elsewhere who follow classes closely--you might even be one yourself, 43rd--probably can answer my question:

Glancing at the preliminary depth chart coming out of the spring game, it strikes me as an unusually upperclassmen-heavy group of starters on defense for WVU. Only one sophomore was listed as a starter at this point, with all the rest juniors and seniors. Could someone who keeps track of roster composition verify how unusual that is at WVU? I suppose you can use Opening Day starters as a proxy for post-spring depth charts if the latter information is too hard to find.

My first impression is to say it's been quite some time since we had that many upperclassmen as projected starters on defense. However, that could be way off since it's not something to which I pay a great deal of attention. I'm sure Vernon or some recruiting diehards will know the answers. It's just an interesting detail I noticed, so I wanted to learn the context if anybody can provide facts.
 

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Just a couple of comments about those numbers:

1. Those numbers should compared in four-year windows. That will give a truer view because in one year some conferences may not have large senior classes.

2. Those numbers should be prorated to account for conference size. A fourteen team conference should have more draftees than a ten team conference.
 

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if you believe there will not be any more GREAT NFL players coming from NON Power 5 schools you are mistaken.

its like saying the NFL has figured out who the best player to take with the #1 overall pick. Newsflash Tampa Bay will regret taking that qb before Game 1. He's an idiot and idiots can't play qb and win in the NFL. Plus he's been in trouble as a college qb. Put $$$$$$$$$ in his pocket,and he is supposed to be better? Yeah right?

Its why the drafts and recruiting in all sports at all levels are less odds than a hand of blackjack.

Nothing changes except the names. The mistakes, the misses, the reaches, and the busts will never stop. Oh that and Mel Kiper Jr will still make $$$$$ being A TV GM who will never draft a player.
 
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It is kinda of strange to see a Pitt poster visit this board to brag about ACC players taken in the draft when WVU had 4X the number of players drafted than Pitt. Maybe FSU got so many players drafted this year because they are now in a conference with Pitt & Syracuse - LOL.

If you excluded FSU from the ACC and accounted for the various conference sizes, there is little difference in terms of the number of players drafted from the ACC, B12, and B10. You might be happy that FSU had a great recruting year and try to portray that as a great recruting year for the ACC, but Pitt and most of the other ACC members had a disappointing year in the 2015 NFL Draft.
 
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if you believe there will not be any more GREAT NFL players coming from NON Power 5 schools you are mistaken.

its like saying the NFL has figured out who the best player to take with the #1 overall pick. Newsflash Tampa Bay will regret taking that qb before Game 1. He's an idiot and idiots can't play qb and win in the NFL. Plus he's been in trouble as a college qb. Put $$$$$$$$$ in his pocket,and he is supposed to be better? Yeah right?

Its why the drafts and recruiting in all sports at all levels are less odds than a hand of blackjack.

Nothing changes except the names. The mistakes, the misses, the reaches, and the busts will never stop. Oh that and Mel Kiper Jr will still make $$$$$ being A TV GM who will never draft a player.
Yeah, its kinda like getting excited about recruits. You never know how they are going to turn out. What we never know about the draft is how many guys they completely whiff on. Guys who never got drafted, who if given a chance would have panned out a lot better than first rounders who had a boatload of money wasted on them. Not a great proxy for judging a program or a conference.
 

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Only SEVEN of the 97 picks were NOT from Power-5 conferences. The message is clear: If you want to be drafted for the NFL, play for a Power-5 team.

The days of Grambling and other lesser powers grabbing the spotlight may be over. With the money clustered in the Power-5 teams, the imbalance of talent between Power-5 and non-Power 5 will only widen.

Maybe I missed some, but Northern Iowa, UConn, Texas State, Hobart & William Smith, Central Florida, Miami of Ohio, Florida Atlantic and Samford were the only non-Power-5 players I saw among the 97 drafted in the first three rounds.
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The days for Grambling, Southern, Bethune and other black colleges making a splash on draft day died 20 to 30 years ago or more when the southern schools stated to recruit the black players.
 

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A lot of people on these boards and elsewhere who follow classes closely--you might even be one yourself, 43rd--probably can answer my question:

Glancing at the preliminary depth chart coming out of the spring game, it strikes me as an unusually upperclassmen-heavy group of starters on defense for WVU. Only one sophomore was listed as a starter at this point, with all the rest juniors and seniors. Could someone who keeps track of roster composition verify how unusual that is at WVU? I suppose you can use Opening Day starters as a proxy for post-spring depth charts if the latter information is too hard to find.

My first impression is to say it's been quite some time since we had that many upperclassmen as projected starters on defense. However, that could be way off since it's not something to which I pay a great deal of attention. I'm sure Vernon or some recruiting diehards will know the answers. It's just an interesting detail I noticed, so I wanted to learn the context if anybody can provide facts.

WVU lost a lot of talent on the defensive side after the 2011 and 2012 seasons. If memory serves, about a half-dozen defenders were drafted and another half-dozen made it into NFL camps as free agents ahead of the 2012 and 2013 seasons.

That was a lot of lost talent on one side of the ball for a program that rebuilds rather than reloads. The defensive struggles of the past two seasons were predictable, but the defense has been rebuilt and should be fun to watch this fall.