Coaching Staff Next Year

Anon1751369530

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Need a staff with complementary pieces. Everyone is listing a staff full of big names and Iowa needs to add a modern one for assistants, but also someone who already is an established recruiter who has made inroads with coaches out east for that role.

Also can Iowa add a general manager position like Penn State, they have Clay Steadman. Jacob Warner seems to be a fit there as he talked on the subject publicly a few times and seems to have a good grasp of it.

As far as Terry being the head coach of the HWC, have to find money for that which has alway been a struggle for the club. A few years ago they announced they were trying to raise 15 million to endow the positions within the club unfortunately that has went no where.
 

maxpain

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Need a staff with complementary pieces. Everyone is listing a staff full of big names and Iowa needs to add a modern one for assistants, but also someone who already is an established recruiter who has made inroads with coaches out east for that role.

Also can Iowa add a general manager position like Penn State, they have Clay Steadman. Jacob Warner seems to be a fit there as he talked on the subject publicly a few times and seems to have a good grasp of it.

As far as Terry being the head coach of the HWC, have to find money for that which has alway been a struggle for the club. A few years ago they announced they were trying to raise 15 million to endow the positions within the club unfortunately that has went no where.

Your first paragraph is one of the reasons why I said Dieringer. He’s recruiting coordinator for Michigan and is highly respected. I also think his presence and style could really benefit Gabe, Angelo, and Ludington.
 

HawkBeliever

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I hope I am wrong, but I don’t think Brands will hire a non-Iowa guy. I also don’t think he will hire anyone that is vocal about needed program changes or poses any threats to his leadership. I believe a non-Hawkeye who is not a “yes” man is exactly what the program needs. This will be a good test as to the maturity of Tom’s leadership.
 

PUR158

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He’s not doing anything any good car salesman couldn’t do. When he shows up to recruit A’s house and he can sell him new wrestling room, large fan base, $$$, historical power house wrestling school he’s selling a Porsche; when another school not named PSU, Okie st., Ohio st shows up all they have to sell is a Prius. That makes M* job that much easier. Throw him into a recruiter roll at any school I didn’t name and he’s just another Joe blow that nobody talks about how good of a recruiter he is.
World class snow shoveler though.
 

Mat Burn

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What HWT coaches would be on the market or would we consider?

A lot of our recruits love M*. If there is a change with his position, he should be the recruiting coordinator. Then we can bring in a Jason Nolf (if he’s interested) or even a Mike Poeta? He does great with middle weights. Or who would you guys have in mind? Of course would love to bring in Nolf but we don’t even know if there is mutual interest.
I'm surprised that Mike Poeta has never been mentioned as a successor to TNT.
 

vhsalum

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Your first paragraph is one of the reasons why I said Dieringer. He’s recruiting coordinator for Michigan and is highly respected. I also think his presence and style could really benefit Gabe, Angelo, and Ludington.

Gonna be hard to get him, they're moving him to staff next season.
 

Mat Burn

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Why not Bono or Eggum while we’re at it? Get real. Poeta would never have been good enough to be the HC at Iowa and now he likely won’t be a HC at any major program for being fired with cause for mismanaging school funds.
Define good enough from sitting on the outside he seems to have done a good job and his wrestlers respect him. As far as the firing I think there was a way to get rid of him as the athletic director and him apparently did not see eye to eye.
 

maxpain

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Gonna be hard to get him, they're moving him to staff next season.
Interesting. Well my selling point would be that there is a legitimate path to a future head coaching job in the not too distant future if things go well. Not so much at Michigan.
 
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VakAttack

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I could see Tom bringing in Steve Mocco

Couldn’t Vodka pull double duty along with his compliance phone calls?

I want to see Kemm on staff badly. Very intelligent and great character. Also doesnt hurt to know a little about wrestling.

My top three are Burroughs, nolf, and Kemmerer. I think all of them could relate to the best clubs in Iowa. Especially the up and coming HWA led by Alex. All 3 could relate to out of state top clubs. That’s where it all starts today. Recruiting. Top recruits means lots of wins which produces lots of donors. Pretty simple. Donors and ticket holders are not going to follow current coaching staff for much longer if at all. I appreciate everything this staff has done for Iowa wrestling,but it’s time for change before change isn’t even a factor.

Gwiz
Nolf.

It would be really helpful to have coaches on staff who could wrestle everyday. Plus the outside voices part.

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cwobrien11

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My 2 pennies: recruit and hire the best recruiters - that goes for any new coach top to bottom. Attracting the best wrestlers to IC is the whole ballgame IMO. Development is obviously an important component but you need the horses first …..like they say down south, “a mule ain’t never won the Kentucky Derby” 😁
This is the correct answer above all other skills. That's crappy to say considering the level of technical skill required to be successful, but it is the truth.

About 50% of my professional career is in data analysis. I play around with sports stats to try new stuff and keep my skills sharp when I have downtime. There's plenty of raw data to play around with and lots of opportunities to explore new ways of looking at it. I have primarily stuck to college football but have just started branching into college wrestling. One of the things that everyone intuitively knows is that recruiting is very important. What most people don't understand is exactly how important it is.

I've gone through data and results for the last 10 recruiting classes, and the numbers really are staggering when you look at them in aggregate. I personally expected there to be some difference, but not what I actually saw. Of the 100 top 10 nationally ranked kids coming out of high school over the last decade, 54 hit the podium. Of the 46 that didn't, 34 still have eligibility left and could still do so. 19 of those 34 were guys that signed in 2024 and redshirted or guys that are 2025 recruits...and 13 have qualified for the tournament and a bunch of them will have top 8 seeds.

Compare those numbers against guys that were ranked 11-20. Individually, there's not a ton of difference. You may be talking about a guy that's ranked 2nd or 3rd at his weight in his class. Miniscule differences individually but in aggregate it's a significant difference. Only 28 out of the 100 hit the podium. About half still have some eligibility remaining but only 19 of the guys that haven't already hit the podium have qualified.

That's only comparing the top 10 recruits to the guys ranked 11th-20th. When you get below 20th, the numbers get much worse. Yeah, you might find a Mikey Caliendo (2021 #52) or a Wyatt Hendrickson (2019 #40) but those kinds of guys are few and far between.

Looking only at the last 4 tournaments across all weight classes:

PlaceMedian Natl RankMedian Position Rank
181
2102
3152
4253
5405
6334
7476
8538

The oddity is 6th place and the data basically says about 1/3 of guys that finish there were highly ranked recruits who are freshmen or sophomores who ended up in the consi's and a lot of middle-to-upper ranked recruits who are juniors and seniors.

If you want to be in the thick of it and actually compete for a national title, it starts with recruiting. Period. What the data is suggesting is that a coaching staff and development may be the difference between a placement or two but the ability to consistently get on the podium is more driven by the quality of the recruit. I may get trolled for saying that, but that's what the data is indicating. If you're going to compete, you need to be signing 1-2 top 10 kids every year and another 2 kids ranked in the top 20. That should be the base of the class and you can add more outside of that, but that should be the base. The numbers will work themselves out. If you're not doing that, you're competing for a team trophy and not really competing for a championship.

For what it is worth, as of right now Iowa's 2027 class is built like that and the 2028 class looks to be building like that, but the 2022, 2024, and 2026 classes aren't. Oklahoma State is going to seriously challenge Penn State starting next year not because Taylor is a coaching genius but because they've been recruiting so well and are going to have one of the most talented rosters in the country.
 

Nearfall2

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This is the correct answer above all other skills. That's crappy to say considering the level of technical skill required to be successful, but it is the truth.

About 50% of my professional career is in data analysis. I play around with sports stats to try new stuff and keep my skills sharp when I have downtime. There's plenty of raw data to play around with and lots of opportunities to explore new ways of looking at it. I have primarily stuck to college football but have just started branching into college wrestling. One of the things that everyone intuitively knows is that recruiting is very important. What most people don't understand is exactly how important it is.

I've gone through data and results for the last 10 recruiting classes, and the numbers really are staggering when you look at them in aggregate. I personally expected there to be some difference, but not what I actually saw. Of the 100 top 10 nationally ranked kids coming out of high school over the last decade, 54 hit the podium. Of the 46 that didn't, 34 still have eligibility left and could still do so. 19 of those 34 were guys that signed in 2024 and redshirted or guys that are 2025 recruits...and 13 have qualified for the tournament and a bunch of them will have top 8 seeds.

Compare those numbers against guys that were ranked 11-20. Individually, there's not a ton of difference. You may be talking about a guy that's ranked 2nd or 3rd at his weight in his class. Miniscule differences individually but in aggregate it's a significant difference. Only 28 out of the 100 hit the podium. About half still have some eligibility remaining but only 19 of the guys that haven't already hit the podium have qualified.

That's only comparing the top 10 recruits to the guys ranked 11th-20th. When you get below 20th, the numbers get much worse. Yeah, you might find a Mikey Caliendo (2021 #52) or a Wyatt Hendrickson (2019 #40) but those kinds of guys are few and far between.

Looking only at the last 4 tournaments across all weight classes:

PlaceMedian Natl RankMedian Position Rank
181
2102
3152
4253
5405
6334
7476
8538

The oddity is 6th place and the data basically says about 1/3 of guys that finish there were highly ranked recruits who are freshmen or sophomores who ended up in the consi's and a lot of middle-to-upper ranked recruits who are juniors and seniors.

If you want to be in the thick of it and actually compete for a national title, it starts with recruiting. Period. What the data is suggesting is that a coaching staff and development may be the difference between a placement or two but the ability to consistently get on the podium is more driven by the quality of the recruit. I may get trolled for saying that, but that's what the data is indicating. If you're going to compete, you need to be signing 1-2 top 10 kids every year and another 2 kids ranked in the top 20. That should be the base of the class and you can add more outside of that, but that should be the base. The numbers will work themselves out. If you're not doing that, you're competing for a team trophy and not really competing for a championship.

For what it is worth, as of right now Iowa's 2027 class is built like that and the 2028 class looks to be building like that, but the 2022, 2024, and 2026 classes aren't. Oklahoma State is going to seriously challenge Penn State starting next year not because Taylor is a coaching genius but because they've been recruiting so well and are going to have one of the most talented rosters in the country.
Good stuff. Fairly intuitive but it is always good when the numbers support what we believe is true. The 6th place ‘anomaly’ is expected due to the semi-slide. Every year at least one or two kids lose in the semi-finals and are completely physically and/or mentally broken and drop to the default place of 6th. This is more likely to happen to high achievers who only see themselves as champions/finalists. Kids who were mid-tier see a guaranteed place as an opportunity to place higher.
 

Scrubby

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Throw a bag at burroughs to come in for one year as an assistant with the plan to make him the head coach after that year. Move Tom and Terry over to HWC to focus on FS while still being around the program. Yianni seems like he very well could be done competing due to injury and would be another great guy to try and bring in as an assistant.
 

cwobrien11

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Good stuff. Fairly intuitive but it is always good when the numbers support what we believe is true. The 6th place ‘anomaly’ is expected due to the semi-slide. Every year at least one or two kids lose in the semi-finals and are completely physically and/or mentally broken and drop to the default place of 6th. This is more likely to happen to high achievers who only see themselves as champions/finalists. Kids who were mid-tier see a guaranteed place as an opportunity to place higher.
Now that I've got the base information in place, I am going to try to create a couple of different models to see if I can develop a means of predicting AA status and potentially team points by using recruit rankings. Right now the data indicates that AA status and placement is heavily dependent upon raw national recruit ranking...but I want to see how predictive it actually is. I have no idea how it is going to turn out or if the data can be utilized in a more predictive way than I have already done so. It may flop pretty hard. No clue.

Doing so would also potentially indicate the impact of development/room depth on overall placement. If certain teams consistently over or under perform to expectation in aggregate, it would go a long way towards isolating that specific set of variables. That would answer a lot of questions and potentially allow me to account for that variance.
 
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This is the correct answer above all other skills. That's crappy to say considering the level of technical skill required to be successful, but it is the truth.

About 50% of my professional career is in data analysis. I play around with sports stats to try new stuff and keep my skills sharp when I have downtime. There's plenty of raw data to play around with and lots of opportunities to explore new ways of looking at it. I have primarily stuck to college football but have just started branching into college wrestling. One of the things that everyone intuitively knows is that recruiting is very important. What most people don't understand is exactly how important it is.

I've gone through data and results for the last 10 recruiting classes, and the numbers really are staggering when you look at them in aggregate. I personally expected there to be some difference, but not what I actually saw. Of the 100 top 10 nationally ranked kids coming out of high school over the last decade, 54 hit the podium. Of the 46 that didn't, 34 still have eligibility left and could still do so. 19 of those 34 were guys that signed in 2024 and redshirted or guys that are 2025 recruits...and 13 have qualified for the tournament and a bunch of them will have top 8 seeds.

Compare those numbers against guys that were ranked 11-20. Individually, there's not a ton of difference. You may be talking about a guy that's ranked 2nd or 3rd at his weight in his class. Miniscule differences individually but in aggregate it's a significant difference. Only 28 out of the 100 hit the podium. About half still have some eligibility remaining but only 19 of the guys that haven't already hit the podium have qualified.

That's only comparing the top 10 recruits to the guys ranked 11th-20th. When you get below 20th, the numbers get much worse. Yeah, you might find a Mikey Caliendo (2021 #52) or a Wyatt Hendrickson (2019 #40) but those kinds of guys are few and far between.

Looking only at the last 4 tournaments across all weight classes:

PlaceMedian Natl RankMedian Position Rank
181
2102
3152
4253
5405
6334
7476
8538

The oddity is 6th place and the data basically says about 1/3 of guys that finish there were highly ranked recruits who are freshmen or sophomores who ended up in the consi's and a lot of middle-to-upper ranked recruits who are juniors and seniors.

If you want to be in the thick of it and actually compete for a national title, it starts with recruiting. Period. What the data is suggesting is that a coaching staff and development may be the difference between a placement or two but the ability to consistently get on the podium is more driven by the quality of the recruit. I may get trolled for saying that, but that's what the data is indicating. If you're going to compete, you need to be signing 1-2 top 10 kids every year and another 2 kids ranked in the top 20. That should be the base of the class and you can add more outside of that, but that should be the base. The numbers will work themselves out. If you're not doing that, you're competing for a team trophy and not really competing for a championship.

For what it is worth, as of right now Iowa's 2027 class is built like that and the 2028 class looks to be building like that, but the 2022, 2024, and 2026 classes aren't. Oklahoma State is going to seriously challenge Penn State starting next year not because Taylor is a coaching genius but because they've been recruiting so well and are going to have one of the most talented rosters in the country.
Part of being able to recruit well is being a coaching genius. Gable revolutionized the sport (aka coaching genius) and could out recruit everyone because of it. Cael has done the same thing and DT is right in Cael's wheelhouse.
 
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Nearfall2

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Now that I've got the base information in place, I am going to try to create a couple of different models to see if I can develop a means of predicting AA status and potentially team points by using recruit rankings. Right now the data indicates that AA status and placement is heavily dependent upon raw national recruit ranking...but I want to see how predictive it actually is. I have no idea how it is going to turn out or if the data can be utilized in a more predictive way than I have already done so. It may flop pretty hard. No clue.

Doing so would also potentially indicate the impact of development/room depth on overall placement. If certain teams consistently over or under perform to expectation in aggregate, it would go a long way towards isolating that specific set of variables. That would answer a lot of questions and potentially allow me to account for that variance.
It would be interesting to see which coaching staffs do better in 21-30 range. Tough to really compare because some schools that is where there recruits come from. Other schools those are the kids who sit on the bench.
 
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grapplefan

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My 2 pennies: recruit and hire the best recruiters - that goes for any new coach top to bottom. Attracting the best wrestlers to IC is the whole ballgame IMO. Development is obviously an important component but you need the horses first …..like they say down south, “a mule ain’t never won the Kentucky Derby” 😁
True, but as they also say, not every thoroughbred will be a winner, and each horse will respond differently to different trainers. Given the best animals, the best trainers usually produce the best horses.
BOTH recruiting AND training are important. One follows the other. True in every sport.
 
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cwobrien11

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Part of being able to recruit well is being a coaching genius. Gable revolutionized the sport (aka coaching genius) and could out recruit everyone because of it. Cael has done the same thing and DT is right in Cael's wheelhouse.
I strongly disagree with the assertation that the ability to recruit is tied to being a coaching genius. Since you brought up David Taylor, I will use him as an example to illustrate what I'm saying.

Since he's been at Okie State, they've signed 18 HS wrestlers over two recruiting classes. 6 of them were committed to Oklahoma State prior to Taylor being hired. The only top 50 kid from that group was LeDarion Lockett. So of the 12 signees that he actually recruited, 5 committed to Oklahoma State before he ever coached his first collegiate match and another 2 committed before he coached his first NCAA tournament. All 7 of those were top 50 kids and 4 were top 10. None of them had any clue what kind of college coach that Taylor was going to be...I'm still not entirely sure anyone knows what kind of college coach he's going to be.

What they knew was that he was an Olympic champion, 3-time World champion, who was in the NCAA finals 4 straight years and had won a couple of NCAA national titles. He was extremely personal and charismatic that allowed him to engage with a wide variety of different people.

He also hired these guys to coach with him:
Jimmy Kennedy-AHC-3X AA with a 5-year international wrestling career
Thomas Gilman-AC-2x AA, Olympic bronze, World gold, and 2 world silvers over a over a 7-year international wrestling career
Bryan Pearsall-Rec. Coordinator-3x NCAA qualifier, 3x B1G champion

Not one of those dudes had any idea if that staff could coach at all, but they knew that the staff knew how to wrestle at a high level (not necessarily transferrable to coaching FWIW) and they were all extremely charismatic and engaging. That is a resume that is not that dissimilar from Dan Gable, Tom Brands, John Smith, or Cael Sanderson. Guys with slightly less fanfare that have made similar transitions include Sammie Henson, Cary Kolat, Kerry McCoy, Doug Schwab, and Chris Bono. It's a formula that works.
 

cwobrien11

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It would be interesting to see which coaching staffs do better in 21-30 range. Tough to really compare because some schools that is where there recruits come from. Other schools those are the kids who sit on the bench.
I can run that data...at least surface level stuff. Give me a bit.
 
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Throw a bag at burroughs to come in for one year as an assistant with the plan to make him the head coach after that year. Move Tom and Terry over to HWC to focus on FS while still being around the program. Yianni seems like he very well could be done competing due to injury and would be another great guy to try and bring in as an assistant.
I like the idea a lot, but I don’t think TnT can be around the program to any extent without having control. They’d lose their minds and I’d want Burroughs to have full say on everything including assistants once he took over.
 

maxpain

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Can't remember what i was listening to but they said something about James Green as a name to watch as an assitant

I was curious about that. Do people consider him someone who moves the needle? Not saying he isn’t, I just never really heard his name in that context.
 

Squatch96

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I was curious about that. Do people consider him someone who moves the needle? Not saying he isn’t, I just never really heard his name in that context.
He had a pretty decent international career on top of pretty decent college carrer.wasnt he the head coach of the junior world teams for a bit too also think Nebraska has improved alot since he came back there as and assistant. Imo as an assistant it wouldnt be a bad hire
 
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IndianaHawk98

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Believe he's content with his club and isn't interested in being a D1 coach unless that has changed recently
Hope he stays in NWI, he has a great club and the community is benefiting from him! lol, so selfishly I hope he stays as a club coach.
 
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cwobrien11

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It would be interesting to see which coaching staffs do better in 21-30 range. Tough to really compare because some schools that is where there recruits come from. Other schools those are the kids who sit on the bench.
Okay so just running the surface level stuff over the last 10 years recruiting cycles there are 44 programs that signed at least one kid in the 21-30 range. Of those 44 programs, only 19 signed more than 1 recruit in that area. I'm pulling anyone that only signed one out of the data set so that it doesn't skew in odd ways...hard to have any kind of trend with only 1 recruit in the sample size.

  • Va Tech has signed 7 (the highest quantity of any program)
  • There are 7 schools that have only signed 2 (Arizona State, Lock Haven, Missouri, Oklahoma, Penn State, Princeton, and West Virginia).
  • No school that has signed fewer than 3 has produced an AA from that group of recruits (all previously mentioned programs that have signed two, plus NC State and Oklahoma State)
  • Stanford has the highest AA rate of prospects in that range at 50% (2 of 4).
  • Cornell and Wisconsin are tied at 2 with a 33% success rate (2 of 6).
  • Wisconsin hasn't had an AA from that range since the 2017 recruiting class whereas Cornell had one in the 2019 and 2023 recruiting classes.
  • Iowa is 4th at 25% (1 of 4).
  • Virginia Tech has the worst AA rate of prospects in this range at 14% (1 of 7).
  • Of the programs that have signed 2+ prospects in this range, 8 have at least one wrestler that is qualified for the NCAA championships this season (Virginia Tech, Cornell, Stanford, Iowa, Nebraska, Ohio State, Princeton, and West Virginia).
  • Virginia Tech has 4 prospects in this range qualified, followed by Stanford at 2. All other schools listed directly above have a single prospect qualified.
  • 5 of those 12 qualified prospects are seeded in the top 8 and are predicted to AA.
  • Virginia Tech and Cornell each have two seeded in the top 8 followed by Nebraska with one.
Once again, this is just surface level stuff, but if I am a prospect ranked nationally in the 21-30 range with options, I am probably looking at Cornell first, followed by Stanford, followed by Iowa. Wisconsin has a highish rate, but nothing recent. Virginia Tech could change my opinion based on how they do this year with the crop of guys that they are sending in.

It's hard to say they're good at it based on only having Bryce Andonian qualify...he had a ridiculous 2022 tournament and then never really replicated the same kind of magic. 3x AA but only placed in the top half of the podium. IIRC Andonian saw Millner and Gomez twice each (two on the front and two on the back side) and had their number both times. There was also a weird bracket draw on the backside that saw the #2, #3, and #4 wrestlers all end up wrestling each other and Andonian ended up getting the winner of those 3.
 

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Disagree. He would be Morningstar part 1. Used to go to the bathroom when them two wrestled. I say part 1 because he always won by a point in a 1-0 or 2-1 match. Terrible. I will say both are good people however!
This ^^ is correct. While both are very good wrestlers, if one of our perceived problems is lack of offense then I don't see how it could be assumed that Howe would be different than M-star here.