It is 100% mental toughness and lifestyle decision making.
That young man has some reality to face.
Coaching Staff Next Year
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That young man has some reality to face.
Just my take but I think you are way overselling the value of having a coach roll around in the room and way underselling the value of having someone like Yianni on the staff even if he can't ever roll around in the room again. A guy like Yianni is going to give a 4-6 year bump in recruiting (HS and transfer). He's also going to have training and tactical ideas that are different than anyone currently in the room which changes the perspective on things which is needed.
Iowa isn't lagging behind other programs because the coaches in the room don't know how to teach and coach the guys in the room. Anyone that says otherwise is telling themselves a story. TNT still know how to coach. Iowa is lagging behind because they aren't keeping up on the recruiting trail and they operate like wrestling hasn't evolved since the 1980's and 1990's. The crop of wrestlers coming up today are so much more technical than guys coming up even 10-15 years ago let alone 20-30 years ago. Getting someone outside the system with some name recognition changes the entire dynamic.
Absolutely great post and spot on. But TNT wont let that change come to them. Control freaks.
We don't do it that way here!
I dunno.... Bong hits worked out for Lance Bennick
can you elaborate on that? I thought he was going to be very good. must be smart also.
That's a name I haven't heard in years.
Never lived up to the expectations coming out of high school.
Did he end up finishing his career at Augsburg?
I didn't realize he was into the hippy lettuce.
I can't. Just know that young man needs to make some life decisions. And the adults in his life need to stop enabling him.
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One has to wonder if the success and excitement around the basketball team with a new coach in McCollum might affect Beth’s decision to hang on to TnT long term.
Fran was not a terrible coach. He had a fair amount of success with Iowa and he has the most wins in Iowa basketball history. Fan apathy and lack of NCAA tournament success was an issue - maybe even the fiery temperament Fran had may have been an issue.
There are a fair number of similarities with the wrestling team. The difficult decision to fire Fran and hire McCollum turned out to be a fantastic one for Beth. Does this affect Beth’s decision with the Brands?
Fran was not a terrible coach. He had a fair amount of success with Iowa and he has the most wins in Iowa basketball history. Fan apathy and lack of NCAA tournament success was an issue - maybe even the fiery temperament Fran had may have been an issue.
There are a fair number of similarities with the wrestling team. The difficult decision to fire Fran and hire McCollum turned out to be a fantastic one for Beth. Does this affect Beth’s decision with the Brands?
You might be right.
Beth doesn’t cling to slanted stats like “most wins.”
Fran won 4 NCAA tourney games at Iowa.
Ben has won 3 in the past week.
Fran is the classic “high floor, low ceiling” coach. That doesn’t make him a bad one. Maybe that’s Brands at this point.
To me the it all comes down to one or two questions, does she have championship expectations or not? If so, does she think the staff has the plan and ability to get there again?
I am guessing if there was a clear heir or alternative to TnT, Beth would consider it. However, no one has yet to come up with a name that fits that criteria. DT was the big fish and there is not another one around at this point in time. Also, remember, when it came to DT - it was a donor that made it happen. If a big donor steps up, anything can happen.
With that being said, I still think that TnT are a great asset to the lives of the kids who go thru their program and that is a big deal also. You do not replace a duo that is finishing in the top 5 year after year. You add to the staff and that is much more likely to happen than getting rid of TnT.
DT wasn't a clear option until okst went and made it happen. There are names that have been thrown out that just might be able to do what DT is right now if given the chance and if they can bring the right staff. I simply believe TnT are what they are at this point... solid but not elite coaches on the wrong side of 50, while also not being strong recruiters or willing to adapt stylistically. I truly don't see them ever competing for another ncaa championship at this point.
I do appreciate they've been great leaders to the young men that have come through the program... unfortunately that seems to completely blow up if the former wrestler dares take a job in wrestling elsewhere.
I love the “no one yet has come up with a name that fits the criteria” part best. As if the AD is using this board to evaluate potential replacements.
Iowa wrestling: We are Top 5. What a great slogan.
How about this one:
Iowa wrestling…after the elite programs that we are no where close to…We Are (Almost) The Best of the Rest.
A little wordy, I guess.
The message to elite high school recruits: Come to Iowa. After 6 years we can get you as high as 3rd.
How about just “best of the rest”?I love the “no one yet has come up with a name that fits the criteria” part best. As if the AD is using this board to evaluate potential replacements.
Iowa wrestling: We are Top 5. What a great slogan.
How about this one:
Iowa wrestling…after the elite programs that we are no where close to…We Are (Almost) The Best of the Rest.
A little wordy, I guess.
The message to elite high school recruits: Come to Iowa. After 6 years we can get you as high as 3rd.
I heartily disagree. You talk as if top 5 is some great place to be for Iowa. Do you realize how few programs there are? Being top 5 in wrestling is NOTHING like being top 5 in football or basketball. We are not barely losing, or in contention. We're not even competitive any more for a title, but are getting our butts kicked at nationals by PSU and now Okie State.
I heard Telford resigned and is getting into medical sales with Stryker. He will do great in a sales career. Best of luck to him.
Reaching out and selling/recruiting is one thing but having world class coaches at all weights gives you something to sell.
Good gig for Bobby if so…Best of luck to him. No doubt he’ll do well with whatever his future holds.
If memory serves, I was thinking Jay Borshel worked in sales for Stryker. Been quite a few years ago tho.
If memory serves, I was thinking Jay Borshel worked in sales for Stryker. Been quite a few years ago tho.
"medical sales with Stryker"... the place where ex-athletes go to die... and earn big bucks doing it.
Here is a question I have--it's no secret Telford is leaving, and this has likely been in the works for a bit.
So if you're Tom, you have a list of potential coaches or athletes you want to contact in person or by phone. In this day and age, how do you keep it a secret? Say #1 and #2 decline for whatever reason. How do you keep them from telling 3-4 friends?? Seems like it would leak quickly that Iowa is looking for a coach? The only way I could think of is some misdirection on the new hire, put some false rumors out.
What do you guys/gals think?
So if you're Tom, you have a list of potential coaches or athletes you want to contact in person or by phone. In this day and age, how do you keep it a secret? Say #1 and #2 decline for whatever reason. How do you keep them from telling 3-4 friends?? Seems like it would leak quickly that Iowa is looking for a coach? The only way I could think of is some misdirection on the new hire, put some false rumors out.
What do you guys/gals think?
Here’s what I think…
If it’s no secret you have a coaching position open, what exactly are you trying to keep a secret? And why?
" it’s no secret you have a coaching position open. What exactly are you trying to keep a secret? And why?"
Then why is it not public knowledge? He didn't mention it at the banquet last night. The university also has a strict hiring procedure/posting. Maybe someone is an interim coach or not even named until that process takes place.
Then why is it not public knowledge? He didn't mention it at the banquet last night. The university also has a strict hiring procedure/posting. Maybe someone is an interim coach or not even named until that process takes place.
Did you not read your own post? You said it isn’t a secret and then strategized on how to keep something a secret that isn’t a secret. And then said it would leak quickly, which it already has.
The university’s policy hiring process is only restrictive when it is able to be. Tom can hire someone at literally any time.
That is a very lucrative job that loves to hire former jocks. He’ll make as much or more than every D1 wrestling head coach other than the top 4-5 coaches.
Because it’s not true at present. Almost best of the rest is where we currently stand, imo.
"I consider myself part of the general public, and I'm aware of it."
Tom knew way before you did. Do you think he waited until the Hawkeye Report rumors were out there, then he breathed a sigh of relief and started contacting coaches/athletes to gauge interest?
Tom knew way before you did. Do you think he waited until the Hawkeye Report rumors were out there, then he breathed a sigh of relief and started contacting coaches/athletes to gauge interest?
Keep digging.
I feel like Eric would be a welcome addition. M2, NLWC, ASU…from Waverly.
He must like some of the stuff they post on IG. Wild guess.
That's about as exciting as the wrestling room windows.
I disagree. Thompson has been in a lot of different rooms, and is a great guy and wrestler. He has stops at M2, NLWC and ASU recently with a year at Iowa State and 3 years at Grand View under Nick Mitchell who is an outstanding coach. He will be a great bigs coach.
