CoachSpeak 101

TheDogfather

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http://hailstatebeat.wordpress.com/...sketball-with-first-practice-coming-saturday/

“I’m really looking forward to that first day,” Ray said. “Our team comes out there with enthusiasm and excitement.”

I have no clue what I'm up against. I just hope everyone has fun.

“We can’t get frustrated teaching motion,” Ray said. “You can’t get frustrated with the process. To me, motion offense is the purest form of basketball. It lets guys play their game.”

Let's not call it "streetball" or "'buryball" ok? This is motion where my guys will be free to throw up 100 3's if necessary. We'll work it all out when we get out on the court.

“We’ve got willing workers. There hasn’t been a day when I’ve come in and had to push guys to work hard,” Ray said. “I want to instill a work ethic in these guys. That’s the most important aspect of us being good.”

I question our talent level, so to make everyone feel better let's just say that we work hard.

“From a fan perspective, every time they come see us play, did my team play harder than the other team? Answer’s gotta be yes. Did my team play tougher than the other team? I want the answer to be yes. And finally, did my team play smarter than the other team? If our fans can walk away saying yes, yes and yes to those questions, then we’ve been successful.”

Let's not measure success on W's and L's. I mean look, Stansbury won a bunch of games, but was he really that good of a coach? Success means playing smart.

“With Chicken, we don’t want to take away his enthusiasm to go make plays,” Ray said. “The big thing Chicken does is his explosiveness. … He just has so many more fast-twitch fibers than everyone else.”

I've got a kid we call "Chicken". Need I say any more?

“Andre Applewhite is a bright kid,” Ray said. “Everything you tell him, he digests and is able to carry out. He’s going to play because he knows everything.”

Doesn't really matter if he can score or defend if he knows he can't score or defend

“I think Colin obviously is going to help becase he can shoot the ball, he’s a skilled four man,” Ray said. “The biggest predictor of Colin having success is, can he go out and rebound and defend against SEC athletes? It’s as simple as that.”

What's obvious is that he is undersized.

“I think we’re a little bit further ahead than I imagined. With some of the moves we’ve made, we’ve set ourselves up to be successful in the future,” Ray said. “I’m really excited about the way recruiting has gone so far.”

At the end of the season, just remember I said "in the future"
 

shsdawg

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To those of you who remember the early years under Richard Williams.........welcome back. I hope it turns out the same way later on.
 

Hanmudog

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I really do feel sorry for Coach Ray and it is pretty obvious now why we could not attract a "name" coach here. He is going to have an awful record for at least the first couple of years. This will be the most undersized team at MSU since I can remember. The three pointer is our only chance to win more than 7-8 games.
 

BiscuitEater

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Well I'm confused ... was that Rick Ray or Bucky talking? Guess we are looking at a bunch of those we played hard 'moral victories'
 

tenureplan

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you can post in any thread you want

Just think it's time to let the Stansbury stuff go, but you can hold on to it if you want to I guess.
 
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Let the Stansbury stuff go? Croom wants to hire you as his publicist...

...it's going on 5 years & MSU fan can't let go of the Croom stuff. So good luck with weaning these people off Stansbury after less than a year.
 

tenureplan

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It would be nice to go through a whole basketball season without the damned Stansbury arguments. But you are right, as soon as we lose a game, they will be all over the first page.
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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But look at the bright side.....

"as soon as we lose a game, they will be all over the first page"

At least we will get it over with before December.
 

johnson86-1

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...it's going on 5 years & MSU fan can't let go of the Croom stuff. So good luck with weaning these people off Stansbury after less than a year.

The difference was Stansbury was a net positive for State and was loyal while Crooms, in addition to being lazy and incompetent, rarely if ever had a good thing to say about State. Obviously Stansbury didn't leave us in the greatest place, but everybody knows that and I would hope that nobody feels the need to spend the next year bringing that up.
 

Seinfeld

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I had seriously ALMOST let go of my animosity towards Sly right up until I watched the documentary last week. To think that we put up with his BS for 5 years, paid the man millions to win 2-3 games per year, yet he apparently still feels like he was given a raw deal is nothing short of amazing. I would be hard pressed not to break his nose if I ever see him in public during my lifetime.

With that said, carry on with the upcoming depressing bball season talk. It's going to make us long for the days when we had hopes of an NIT bid.
 

SixtonPackerish

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I had seriously ALMOST let go of my animosity towards Sly right up until I watched the documentary last week. To think that we put up with his BS for 5 years, paid the man millions to win 2-3 games per year, yet he apparently still feels like he was given a raw deal is nothing short of amazing. I would be hard pressed not to break his nose if I ever see him in public during my lifetime.

With that said, carry on with the upcoming depressing bball season talk. It's going to make us long for the days when we had hopes of an NIT bid.

I can drive you straight to his house. I'll even knock on the door for you, if you'll break his nose. I want to see that in person.
 
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Thanks for proving my point...

..this is like complaining about Ross Perot losing the 1992 presidential race. While your grievances may be vaild, you are pounding the table over ancient history. I think both Perot & Croom have moved on. For the sake of your dignity, perhaps you should too.
 

DAWG61

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As of today if all committs make it to MSU...

next year there'll be 10 new faces than last year with still room for one more. Of those 10 2 are from Mississippi 2 from Arkansas and one from each of the following states, Alabama, Tennessee, Missouri, Illinois, Arizona and Wisconsin. This is based on where they played in HS. Borchert played Juco in MS and Daniels plays Juco in Alabama. So 10 new guys from 8 different states. That's amazing.
 

johnson86-1

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Wasn't pounding the table, just pointing out it's stupid to think people will complain about Stansbury the way they complain about Crooms. How long did people complain about the Kang after he retired? I didn't read sixpack (or any message board) at the time so was not exposed to extreme people, but the people I was around didn't complain about him at all. I'm sure there were people that complained about the bad shape Sherrill left the program in, but I can't imagine there being much animosity towards somebody that loved MSU and did good things for it before tapering off at the end. I would assume that Stansbury's treatment will be much closer to the Kang's than to Crooms'.