Colin Powell on the Iran deal, ISIS, Hillary email issue.....

[RichardPeterJohnson]

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-transcript-september-6-2015-n422606

Good read from this distinguished Republican who looks at merits of issues before drawing a conclusion. When did objectivity become an issue with the GOP? Well, at least there are a few reasonable Repubs left. Few indeed.

 

[dave]

So you agree now tha bush and cheney didnt lie to get us into iraq. Good to see you finally came to your senses.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

So you agree now tha bush and cheney didnt lie to get us into iraq. Good to see you finally came to your senses.

I figured someone would bring that up. Powell has described his appearance before the UN as the lowest point in his career. He was repeating the same intel to the UN that the admin had used (cherry picked) to sell Congress. Powell wasn't the person who vetted the intel. He was the good soldier who followed orders. Clarke said so in his book. Powell did have reservations about the intel and has publicly stated as much. He actually requested a meeting with W and had dinner at the WH with W and Condi where he told W his "break it own it" philosophy. He was prophetic in that regard. What a mess W created in the whole region. Withouit that Iraq invasion, the whole region would be much more stable. Counterbalance is gone.

 

[dave]

I figured someone would bring that up. Powell has described his appearance before the UN as the lowest point in his career. He was repeating the same intel to the UN that the admin had used (cherry picked) to sell Congress. Powell wasn't the person who vetted the intel. He was the good soldier who followed orders. Clarke said so in his book. Powell did have reservations about the intel and has publicly stated as much. He actually requested a meeting with W and had dinner at the WH with W and Condi where he told W his "break it own it" philosophy. He was prophetic in that regard. What a mess W created in the whole region. Withouit that Iraq invasion, the whole region would be much more stable. Counterbalance is gone.

Spin.

 

[Airport]

I figured someone would bring that up. Powell has described his appearance before the UN as the lowest point in his career. He was repeating the same intel to the UN that the admin had used (cherry picked) to sell Congress. Powell wasn't the person who vetted the intel. He was the good soldier who followed orders. Clarke said so in his book. Powell did have reservations about the intel and has publicly stated as much. He actually requested a meeting with W and had dinner at the WH with W and Condi where he told W his "break it own it" philosophy. He was prophetic in that regard. What a mess W created in the whole region. Withouit that Iraq invasion, the whole region would be much more stable. Counterbalance is gone.

The people in that region, muslims, have created a horrible mess. Why I have always said I didn't think going in was a good thing, nothing anybody ever does will make the middle east anything but a cess pool, Israel excluded. Nothing will ever improve there.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

The people in that region, muslims, have created a horrible mess. Why I have always said I didn't think going in was a good thing, nothing anybody ever does will make the middle east anything but a cess pool, Israel excluded. Nothing will ever improve there.

Well, we made it much worse when we removed Iran and Syria's counterbalance.

 

[Airport]

Well, we made it much worse when we removed Iran and Syria's counterbalance.

Well, if you call removing a genocidal maniac who used gas on the kurds bad, then we made it worse. As I have said, it's really hard to make that place worse. I wish we could move Israel to Montana and vaporize that area and the world would be better off. I jest, I would never do that but it's a cess pool. All the money that the region has, oil, and only a handful benefit. The rest rot in hell and the ruling parties could not care less.

 

[dave]

Well, we made it much worse when we removed Iran and Syria's counterbalance.

Its not like the region was stable before we removed sadaam.

 

[Airport]

Its not like the region was stable before we removed sadaam.

That region is so jealous that Israel is prosperous and that with all that oil, they are destitute.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

That region is so jealous that Israel is prosperous and that with all that oil, they are destitute.

I think Saudia Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, and UAE aren't too jealous of anyone's prosperity. And those are the people who need skin in the game against ISIS. It's time for us to quit doing their dirty work.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

Its not like the region was stable before we removed sadaam.

I didn't say it was. But it is much worse now. We had a choice-stay in Iraq providing stability all the while having our troops subject to IEAs and snipers (we lost 4000+ troops after we "won"), or get the hell out and let them deal with it. Btw, remember once upon a time when the neocon thinking was that if we'd just fund some opposition to Saddam they'd get rid of him and everything would be great? Well, we went one better and did it for them and they are a mess. Neocons have been full of **** in every prediction they've ever made about the ME.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I didn't say it was. But it is much worse now. We had a choice-stay in Iraq providing stability all the while having our troops subject to IEAs and snipers (we lost 4000+ troops after we "won"), or get the hell out and let them deal with it. Btw, remember once upon a time when the neocon thinking was that if we'd just fund some opposition to Saddam they'd get rid of him and everything would be great? Well, we went one better and did it for them and they are a mess. Neocons have been full of **** in every prediction they've ever made about the ME.

Except about the ramifications of us pulling out? Only 2.5 years and we were back in.

 

[dave]

I didn't say it was. But it is much worse now. We had a choice-stay in Iraq providing stability all the while having our troops subject to IEAs and snipers (we lost 4000+ troops after we "won"), or get the hell out and let them deal with it. Btw, remember once upon a time when the neocon thinking was that if we'd just fund some opposition to Saddam they'd get rid of him and everything would be great? Well, we went one better and did it for them and they are a mess. Neocons have been full of **** in every prediction they've ever made about the ME.

It is worse now because obama took our troops out.

 

[Airport]

I think Saudia Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, and UAE aren't too jealous of anyone's prosperity. And those are the people who need skin in the game against ISIS. It's time for us to quit doing their dirty work.

Only the ruling elite, not the common person, shares in that wealth. But Saudia Arabia funds a great deal of terrorism in the middle east. we allow them the duplicity. Wahhabism is a major problem and that's Saudia Arabia. Things get worse when we shrink from the worlds stage. it's better to lead then to look at what's in front of you, mostly ***.

 

[Airport]

I didn't say it was. But it is much worse now. We had a choice-stay in Iraq providing stability all the while having our troops subject to IEAs and snipers (we lost 4000+ troops after we "won"), or get the hell out and let them deal with it. Btw, remember once upon a time when the neocon thinking was that if we'd just fund some opposition to Saddam they'd get rid of him and everything would be great? Well, we went one better and did it for them and they are a mess. Neocons have been full of **** in every prediction they've ever made about the ME.

Explain neocon?

 

[bornaneer]

I didn't say it was. But it is much worse now. We had a choice-stay in Iraq providing stability all the while having our troops subject to IEAs and snipers (we lost 4000+ troops after we "won"), or get the hell out and let them deal with it. Btw, remember once upon a time when the neocon thinking was that if we'd just fund some opposition to Saddam they'd get rid of him and everything would be great? Well, we went one better and did it for them and they are a mess. Neocons have been full of **** in every prediction they've ever made about the ME.

Colin Powell LIED. You can make ALL the excuses you want to cover his ***. And you have the ***** nerve to call him a "distinguished Republican". Lets see if you will still call him that when his boy is out of office.

 

[Airport]

Colin Powell LIED. You can make ALL the excuses you want to cover his ***. And you have the ***** nerve to call him a "distinguished Republican". Lets see if you will still call him that when his boy is out of office.

No real republican would ever support a socialist like Obama. Black on black support.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

No real republican would ever support a socialist like Obama. Black on black support.

I see neil isn't the only racist around here. Ever stop to consider that Powell looked at BO's positions and agreed with more that he disagreed? No, I'm sure you haven't.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

No real republican would ever support a socialist like Obama. Black on black support.

Another racist. Congrats.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

Explain neocon?

Look it up yourself. I'm not doing your homework.

 

[Airport]

I see neil isn't the only racist around here. Ever stop to consider that Powell looked at BO's positions and agreed with more that he disagreed? No, I'm sure you haven't.

I like people who think if you earn it, you should get to keep it. Many blacks believe just like I do. If Obama has been so good, why are blacks doing so bad under him? It's not racist if it's the truth.

 

[Airport]

I support Ben carson, like Walter Williams and any person who believes in freedom from govt tyranny.

 

[Airport]

Look it up yourself. I'm not doing your homework.

You only repeat it because you heard someone on msnbc say it.

 

[Airport]

Another racist. Congrats.

Not racist. you liberals trot that out when you don't have a good argument. Republicans believe in self reliance, not govt redistribution of what other people have earned.

 

[dave]

Another racist. Congrats.

At some point you are going to realize that it isnt everyone else who is racist.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

I support Ben carson, like Walter Williams and any person who believes in freedom from govt tyranny.

You also said the only reason Powell endorsed Obama was because "Black on Black support". I'd call that a racist comment despite the fact that you obviously aren't racist.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

At some point you are going to realize that it isnt everyone else who is racist.

Really? Two jackasses in this thread make obvious racist comments. I call them out and you accuse me of being racist? Good try.:flush:

 

[bornaneer]

You also said the only reason Powell endorsed Obama was because "Black on Black support". I'd call that a racist comment despite the fact that you obviously aren't racist.

You are showing your ignorance again. What is racist about Airports comment? Would I be a racist if I was Chinese and supported a Chinese person for President. Maybe Colin Powell did support Obama out of ethnic pride. What is wrong with that?

 

[Airport]

At some point you are going to realize that it isnt everyone else who is racist.

Fall back for all liberals, you don't like Obama, you're a racist. If you say, blacks should stop killing each other, you're a racist cause you don't understand urban problems.

You also said the only reason Powell endorsed Obama was because "Black on Black support". I'd call that a racist comment despite the fact that you obviously aren't racist.

Racist would be saying you hate him because he's black not because of his ideas or who he is. Only a completely stupid person would say things are better off with Obama and that blacks are better off too.

 

[bornaneer]

I call them out and you accuse me of being racist? Good try.:flush:

Lets double it up. Not only are you ignorant, you are also paranoid . Who called you a racist?

 

[dave]

Really? Two jackasses in this thread make obvious racist comments. I call them out and you accuse me of being racist? Good try.:flush:

I didnt accuse you of being a racist. You accuse everyone whi disagrees with obama a racist though. Its pretty hollow.