Thank goodness for the playoff's and college football's attempt to get it right. There are so many teams undeserving as they are who come close to the playoff's. I read that since Bobby Petrino's return to L-ville, He has 6 victories over teams with winning records ? Now even as I admit my bias against them low down dirty snitches. How is it possible that they came close to making the playoff's with not a legitimate resume? These so called experts who are getting paid to go on TV and make the case for which teams they think are deserving are a joke. Take Kirk Herbstreight who just the night before the Houston game was tooting the Cardinal horn as the 4th team in the playoff's ? Makes one wonder if some of these mouth pieces are on the take from these teams ? Alot of people want to say how overated the SEC is these days but I beg to differ and the reason is simple. The SEC is not about one game in either the east or western division but rather it's the grind. How many of these top twenty teams could survive playing a five game regiment of say Fla., Ga., Al., Miss.St., and Tenn.? After that grind on your roster and the toll it takes, then your supposed to get up to play a big game ? It's just sad to see some of these teams play absolutely no one and yet get thrown into the best teams conversations ?
College football is incredibly unfair ?
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Why is it that when ACC basketball teams beat each other ....its called parody........... SEC football beats up on each other and its because the SEC is down?
Because it's a joke.
The quality of SEC football IS down this year....the criticism is fair. And in some years when ACC basketball has beaten up on itself....it has been the best conference. The SEC has had 10 teams go bowling in a season, and no one criticized the SEC for parity because we were clearly the best football conference those years.
The reality is football needs to expand to 8 and basketball needs to shrink back to 32. I would actually advocate 16 for both sports but I realize the arguments that would ensue and I'm not interested in hashing them out here for the billionth time.
The reality is football needs to expand to 8 and basketball needs to shrink back to 32. I would actually advocate 16 for both sports but I realize the arguments that would ensue and I'm not interested in hashing them out here for the billionth time.
They actually select. If another SEC school finds a diamond in the rough who develops during his senior season and gets an early commitment, Bama is there to take him away at the end. They select from a list of only the best
CB3, I agree that overall the SEC is down this year. However the point I was trying to make is,even as it's not as strong as years past the season long grind of life in the SEC takes it's toll on your roster. I'll use Tenn as an example. They where a very good team until the injuries started piling up from playing a tough SEC schedule. So much so they didn't look like the same team. I can't help but wonder if the Vol's played L-ville's schedule where would they be right now ?
I get that...but Louisville was only in the conversation for the length of time their only loss was a squeaker @ Clemson. Otherwise they obliterated their competition. Why is it worth dwelling on when they are 9-3 and out of the picture?
About half the teams in the CFP top 25 you could rip apart their resume cause to be honest about 7 of the top 15 only have 1 quality win on their resumes.
It is.
It's limited to how many you can take per class and how many you can have overall. Even with that, their depth is unbelievable.
Those are some tough questions without good answers but I'll try...
(1) The Cards did not come close to making the final four. They had a nice early season win against a pretty good FSU team to get "into the (early) conversation" but progressively "weakened their resume" with losses to Clemson, Houston and UK. It's as simple as that.
(2) It is their job to offer their opinion. And until their opinion is part of the "championship process" that is all it will ever be, an opinion.
(3) Nobody is saying the SEC (East) is overrated; they are saying it is "down". Big difference there and it is down. FL (Sagarin #24, Playoff Ranking #15) and TN (Sagarin #25, Playoff Ranking #22) are the "best' teams in the SECE. From there it falls off to Sagarin #54 GA.
I'm not sure how you define a "grind". But for me "grind" is simply another way of saying SOS (i.e., tough SOS constitutes a tough grind.) And SOS is determined largely by your conference competition so a tough SOS constitutes a "grind" regardless of in what league it occurs. Using Sagarin rankings as a reference the SECE measures up as follows (1st number is ranking, 2nd number is SOS):
#24 FL #50 (SOS)
#25 TN #40
#54 GA #45
#60 Vandy #37
#62 UK #56
#73 MO #53
#77 SC #51
In contrast UK's SECW regular opponent (5-7 MSU) was #52 against an #26 SOS.
(4) If we are talking about injuries taking a toll on your roster I'm not sure "the grind" has as much to do with it as just plain bad luck. I'm just not sure playing tougher teams produces more injuries. You can break a bone or tear a ligament just as easily against Troy (or for that matter in practice) as you can against AL.
(5) No matter what system is used there will always be a few teams that just miss the cut. Right now that looks like MI and WI (both 10-2 with good SOS rankings). They may have legitimate arguments. But when you are ranked say #7 or worse, you are really not in the conversation of "best 4".
FWIW, I believe the 4 team playoff is primarily intended to make sure they get the 2 best teams. That is to say, you improve the margin of error in selecting the 2 best team by increasing the selection to 4 teams. The old BCS ranking was a hard "mathematical" determination of #1 and #2 based upon computer rankings and opinion polls and always left some controversy about those #3, #4 and #5 ranked teams.
Although I suspect at least some of the committee members use some mathematical data to arrive at their opinions, the current process is ultimately all opinion based which, IMO [winking], is not the best way to go at it.
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wildcard nice job sidestepping your sagrin numbers by only using the sec east.....however use whole sec conference. all you tard fans are the same. just use what time period or what figures you want to make yourself or your point look good. fyi nobody said the sec east is overrated. it was said the sec was overrated.
I'm not sure where you are going. Who said the SEC was overrated? If you like Sagarin he has 6 SEC teams in his Top 25. If you like playoff committee they have 5 SEC teams in the Top 25. It must be the writers in the AP poll because they only have 4 SEC teams in the top 25. It's true that there is a pretty big gap between AL and next highest rated SEC team but that simply shows the SEC overall is down this year from other years. Like I said before there is a difference between being "down" and being "over rated".
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WildCard, I usually enjoy your posts, but number 4 is just plain wrong. Anyone who has ever played football knows it.
Thank you, I appreciate that. But do you mean injuries? I've never seen any numbers or studies of same but I'm just not sure a tougher SOS (i.e., "grind" as discussed in this thread) absolutely means more injuries. It strikes he that most injuries, big or small, are simply related to the freakish contact nature of a particular play (e.g., turn an ankle, wrench a knee, etc.) and are very seldom due to the "ferocity" of a hit.
FWIW, I played (a long time ago). I broke a metatarsal (in practice) when I planted my foot to cut to the ball. The play before I was somewhere in 5 or 6 man dog pile. I was so "alone" on the field I actually heard the bone pop. Absolutely zero contact, just bad luck. JMO
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