College Football Playoff going to straight seeding.

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Good call.

The old seeding rule made sense under the old "Power 5" arrangement where you could bet that 4 of the P5 champs would be either in the top 4 or pretty close (like top 6 or 7), but it doesn't make sense when there's really a "Power 2" now and "pretty good 2" under them.
 

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Good call.

The old seeding rule made sense under the old "Power 5" arrangement where you could bet that 4 of the P5 champs would be either in the top 4 or pretty close (like top 6 or 7), but it doesn't make sense when there's really a "Power 2" now and "pretty good 2" under them.
Meh it should have always been this way.
 

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Good call.

The old seeding rule made sense under the old "Power 5" arrangement where you could bet that 4 of the P5 champs would be either in the top 4 or pretty close (like top 6 or 7), but it doesn't make sense when there's really a "Power 2" now and "pretty good 2" under them.
Plus, they were trying to preserve the significance of conference title games, which are now being done away with for the 3/6 and 4/5 matchups.
 
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Good call.

The old seeding rule made sense under the old "Power 5" arrangement where you could bet that 4 of the P5 champs would be either in the top 4 or pretty close (like top 6 or 7), but it doesn't make sense when there's really a "Power 2" now and "pretty good 2" under them.
If they are all about preserving the conference champion it should have been done as automatic qualifier and leave it at that. So if some random 8-4 or 7-5 team happened to win the conference championship they would be in the playoff and just be seeded accordingly (probably in the 10-12 range).

ETA: The likeliness of that happening now is pretty slim because no one has division winners anymore.
 

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If they are all about preserving the conference champion it should have been done as automatic qualifier and leave it at that. So if some random 8-4 or 7-5 team happened to win the conference championship they would be in the playoff and just be seeded accordingly (probably in the 10-12 range).

ETA: The likeliness of that happening now is pretty slim because no one has division winners anymore.
They have tried so dang hard to force the conference title games to matter, and one day they’re gonna finally reach the same conclusion that the rest of us already have. Conference championship games are worthless
 

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Next up, NFL
You morons keep saying this, but you don't seem to realize there ain't gonna be but one NFL. If college EVER started encroaching on territory that even approaches a threat to the NFL, that is the day you see all this shlt end.

We're not going to an NFL model, the players are not going to be employees. Get over it. Alumni and fans are going to foot this bill (through donations or TV money, however you want to slice it).

There will probably be a division of FBS, though. That's easy enough to see coming. Those who want to participate in rev share and those who don't.

And while I'm at it......ya'll never to quit believing the stupid NIL numbers being thrown around out there. It's the modern day version of crootin starzzz from 2005.
 

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They have tried so dang hard to force the conference title games to matter, and one day they’re gonna finally reach the same conclusion that the rest of us already have. Conference championship games are worthless
They’re worth a lot. It’s still a cinference championship & it still has a big effect on seeding. But the damn Mountain West cinference champion never deserved a top 4 seed.
 

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You morons keep saying this, but you don't seem to realize there ain't gonna be but one NFL. If college EVER started encroaching on territory that even approaches a threat to the NFL, that is the day you see all this shlt end.

We're not going to an NFL model, the players are not going to be employees. Get over it. Alumni and fans are going to foot this bill (through donations or TV money, however you want to slice it).

There will probably be a division of FBS, though. That's easy enough to see coming. Those who want to participate in rev share and those who don't.

And while I'm at it......ya'll never to quit believing the stupid NIL numbers being thrown around out there. It's the modern day version of crootin starzzz from 2005.
To quote you, “you moron”

I was merely stating that the NFL will move to the straight seeding model as well, and should.
Cool rant though….prick
 
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To quote you, “you moron”

I was merely stating that the NFL will move to the straight seeding model as well, and should.
Cool rant though….prick
Totally agree. The division winners can make the playoffs but the seeding is based on record.
 
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Totally agree. The division winners can make the playoffs but the seeding is based on record.
Too many divisions with too few teams in each one. Need to eliminate conferences and go to 4 8-team divisions. Play 7 teams in your division + every team in another division + 2 division rivals a 2nd time.
 
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Too many divisions with too few teams in each one. Need to eliminate conferences and go to 4 8-team divisions. Play 7 teams in your division + every team in another division + 2 division rivals a 2nd time.
Are you kidding? The NFL division system is perfect for scheduling.
 

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Are you kidding? The NFL division system is perfect for scheduling.
So why does no other league on any sport in the world not follow it? Not to mention that in my model, you’d still play 2 of the 3 teams in your current division twice. All the current model does is muck up the playoffs with bad teams.
 

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As long as the Committee has nothing to do with seeding. Should only be a computer calculating seeds w/ predetermined inputs before the season starts. If the Committee gets to vote for seeds, then the human influence will spoil it.
 

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As long as the Committee has nothing to do with seeding. Should only be a computer calculating seeds w/ predetermined inputs before the season starts. If the Committee gets to vote for seeds, then the human influence will spoil it.
Computer is no better than a committee. Often worse. GIGO most of the time.
 

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Computer is absolutely better than a Committee. You can't change or influence a computer's mind....or as someone said earlier "on a committee, it's you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours". There's no back scratching a computer's set inputs. Seedings and/or rankings are simply set by how a team fills in those inputs. You can have 2 or 3 inputs, or you can have 20, .....but only one number will be spit out by the computer without any human interaction. No one can argue about a "back being scratched" to get a certain seeding or ranking.
 

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Computer is absolutely better than a Committee. You can't change or influence a computer's mind....or as someone said earlier "on a committee, it's you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours". There's no back scratching a computer's set inputs. Seedings and/or rankings are simply set by how a team fills in those inputs. You can have 2 or 3 inputs, or you can have 20, .....but only one number will be spit out by the computer without any human interaction. No one can argue about a "back being scratched" to get a certain seeding or ranking.
A computer can’t think or evaluate. All it dies is crunch numbers. And the formulas are always flawed.
 
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A computer can’t think or evaluate. All it dies is crunch numbers. And the formulas are always flawed.
A computer ranking the teams is better than people ranking them. If the conferences agreed on a set of data to figure it out then so be it. A committee has too much bias.