collierville coach forced to resign for yelling/cussing

[Dawg4Life]

You would have been the only one taking that side on that team. You'd have just been too intense and awesome for us.

My whole team was like that. We practiced together and worked on our game all year long. We just loved the game and wanted to win.

I still can't wrap my head around such a lackadaisical attitude toward any sport.

It wouldn't have just been me. That attitude would not fly on any team I played on.

 

[seshomoru]

This coach said a player deserved to get hurt. Said it in tbe dug out. Entire team not in the field heard him. Assistant coaches had to talk every guy on the team out of walking away. If you had stood up for that coach, you are the one that would have been the outcast. We came together as a team by screwing with him. It's how we made it through the season.

 

[patdog]

it's OK that your friend was a dipshit because the rest of the team were all dipshits too. It's no wonder you drove the coach crazy.

 

[seshomoru]

We were dips@@@s because we had no respect for a man who said a 17 year old deserved to get hurt because he booted a ball.

Fine. We were a bunch of wimps because we were more concerned with having fun and surviving a horrible coach while we waited for summer ball to get going. I can live that.

 

[hulkbuster]

I never said "getting cussed out made me strong". But since I really didn't get talked to like that at home it DID make my skin thicker when I went through basic training for the military. And my high school coach had nothing on my forming officers or my company commanders. But again (same as this crap) NOW A DAYS the military has "red cards"? That can be held up if the verbal bashing from your DI is getting "too intense". Too intense, is a word this younger generation knows NOTHING about. The forming officer once said "do u know what the most used muscle is by todays youth? The thumbs. Because they are either playing games, texting or clicking the remote." And I concur. I tell my kids @ practice ALL the time, "ya'll think thats hitting or tackling?" When Chris Rice or Jeff Collier came through that hole in practice it was KILL or be KILLED. Chin straps broke, chips of paint & chucks of helmet flew off after those licks. We didn't worry about Facebook, or wonder if Glee was on TV later that night. We only had 3-4 channels on TV & mom & dad occupied that. Alot of times after football practice, supper, shower & homework there wasn't time to call Sally Sue and ask her how her day was. You were so tired after all of that you passed out in bed from how loose your muscles were after that hot shower or bath. THAT's what made me tough, not a coach cussing me.

 

[Buford T. Justice]

We are not talking about guys giving a half-*** effort. We are not talking about guys not caring. We are not talking about guys running half-speed, skipping practice, goofing-off, etc. We are talking about someone purposely FIXING OR THROWING a game. That will get you banned for life from professional sports. I would think that would get you booted off of any high school team.

There is a big difference between "I don't give a **** and I don't care if my team wins" and "I will do everything in my power to make sure my team loses. I will actually work hard for the other team".

 

[seshomoru]

We are not talking about guys giving a half-*** effort. We are not talking about guys not caring. We are not talking about guys running half-speed, skipping practice, goofing-off, etc. We are talking about someone purposely FIXING OR THROWING a game. That will get you banned for life from professional sports. I would think that would get you booted off of any high school team.

There is a big difference between "I don't give a **** and I don't care if my team wins" and "I will do everything in my power to make sure my team loses. I will actually work hard for the other team".

We never purposefully lost. We purposefully ticked off ourcoachwhosaidan injury wasdeserved, got in two fights with assistant coaches, and one fight with a player inthe dugout.He actually kicked a guy out of the dugout once because he struck out with the bases loaded, accompanied with the comment, "Way to be clutch, you 17ing superstar. Get the 17 out and don't come back until you're a man!" He backed off that stance when every senior on the team started following the guy out. (In hindsight, I didn't realize how hilarious that actually sounded.) You keep saying we'd have been kicked off the team for doing stuff like that. If we had a coach that wasn't such a complete turd, yeah. But if we had a coach that wasn't a turd, we never would have done it. In fact we didn't on the summer circuit. Nearly every guy on thatplayed summer ball together, and the level of play and intensity was astonishingly different. Banned for life from professional sports????? Get a grip dude. We were teenagers ticking off an a-hole that didn't care about us.

We actuallywon that game by the way.... it was some double digits to like 2. The other team was horrendous. We played for ourselves and got our rocks off ticking off a complete a-hole. He was far more a bully than a coach. A sad 40 year old man picking on teenagers. It was our way of fighting back.

 

[dawgstudent]

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[SlapDickMcKenzie.nafoom]

But the tone and substance of speech is what should matter, not the words used. Separating "cuss words" from "regular" words is childish. So is an angry rant that uses no cuss words at all.

Any coach who apologizes for saying "****" is just weird.

I think cuss words should be used sparingly, for effect, and not in a tirade fashion. But it's silly to pretend "****" is awful and evil while "stuff" isn't. The worst is when someone says "gosh darn" to avoid saying the sinful "God damn," when the intent is exactly the same. You're basically still saying God damn because God is the only entity with the power to damn or "darn" something.

 

[seshomoru]

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[coach66]

I agree with kids being cursed at by a coach because I do believe that is crossing the line. With that said I don't see anything wrong with yelling at kids to get your point across and demanding excellence and maximum effort. Hell, half the time they would never hear me if I wasn't yelling at them!

 

[Maroon Eagle]

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[Sterling Archer.nafoom]

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[Dawg4Life]

We were dips@@@s because we had no respect for a man who said a 17 year old deserved to get hurt because he booted a ball.

Fine. We were a bunch of wimps because we were more concerned with having fun and surviving a horrible coach while we waited for summer ball to get going. I can live that.

Maybe if y'all took the game seriously and not time to skip class and dip snuff, then maybe he would have gave a **** about your sorry asses. You sure didn't have any respect for the game based on your own words. The reason the coach said you all were a bunch of pussies is because you were. Again, based strictly on what you said.

Just like cursing doesn't make a team better, cursing didn't make y'all sorry as ****. You already were sorry before the coach said a word.

It kinda works both ways, doesn't it? Cursing doesn't make you better or worse. Either you're winners or not.

 

[drunkernhelldawg]

I think that if he lost his whole job that he will win a court challenge. If what he said is a termination offense, then a lot of coaches and even teaches aren't sleeping easy tonight. That doesn't mean that I agree with what he did, but I do think that the audio shows that his objective was to make better young men of of his players. It may not have had that effect, but I think the guy cares.

As far as the argument of the former baseball "players" who sabatoged their coach. I think your team missed out on the fact that one leadership style is to try and motivate students to take their natural leadership roles. I think that this can be very effective, but since the players on this team knew so much more than their teachers, it had no chance of working. As far as him saying that about a hurt player, I agree that would be wrong but the context and the situation would make a lot of difference. After all the times you've repeated your outrage the words you use have kind of morphed in my mind to " But the SOB forgot my birthday." There's no accounting for the accuracy or lack thereof of what people hear and think they hear. Happy late birthday, though, and I mean it for all of your "team"mates.

 

[Rebels7]

If they were trying to lose because they thought it was funny to spite their coach, they were dipshits. If his coach did the things he says, even half of them, that is the worst coach in the history of high school baseball. <div>
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[Mutt the Hoople.buhoops]

Seshomoru wrote:....You keep saying we'd have been kicked off the team for doing stuff like that. If we had a coach that wasn't such a complete turd, yeah. But if we had a coach that wasn't a turd, we never would have done it. In fact we didn't on the summer circuit. Nearly every guy on thatplayed summer ball together, and the level of play and intensity was astonishingly different. Banned for life from professional sports????? Get a grip dude. We were teenagers ticking off an a-hole that didn't care about us.

We actuallywon that game by the way.... it was some double digits to like 2. The other team was horrendous. We played for ourselves and got our rocks off ticking off a complete a-hole. He was far more a bully than a coach. A sad 40 year old man picking on teenagers. It was our way of fighting back.

Sounds like he did what a coach is supposed to do, unite a team and make them play better than they could've otherwise. Looks like he had all his players hate him so much they wanted to win just to show him. Good work by that coach.