Comey testimony prediction...
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Both sides have already released their talking points to their surrogates. I suspect ATX-Pay will be here soon with his marching orders and then Made or whatever he goes by now will be soon behind. Let the comedy begin.
I told you that two days ago. It isn't his role to make the determination of whether or not obstruction of justice occurred. He is a witness providing testimony. Ultimately it is up to a prosecutor...and maybe the House Judiciary Committee, depending on where this goes. His role is to provide testimony to what happened and he will do that. Mark it down.
Of course everyone on this board, myself included, will have discussion about what Comey said and whether or not it is obstruction of justice. We'll have a few right wingers defend and argue it wasn't obstruction, regardless of what Comey says.
Actually it's L-e-v-i-a-t-h-a-n and it has already worked it's way into every fabric of your Life so much so that you don't even realize how smothered under its blanket you already are.
What I'm actually most interested in reading, is all of you Leftists' "new" allegations of Trump's plan to either "obstruct justice" or "collude" with Russians to corrupt these hearings.
Can't wait to hear those complaints once the original "obstruction" or "collusion" charges we've all been hearing you folks whine about for the past six months blows up in your faces.
I've been watching the testimony, and so far, it's not going well for our left wing friends, which may explain the board silence. But, you're right. They'll move onto another fake story after this one fades quickly.
Obvious statement is obvious...he's going to provide testimony...well duh. None of his testimony will 100% prove or deny that Trump was obstruction...but people on both sides will pick it apart to fit their needs...libtards like you already are proving that.
I'm sorry, I didn't choose Comey's words for him. Would you like for me to ask him to recant what he said about little hands donnie?
It has been very telling to this point.
See what I mean?
Comey has directly refuted the Democrat's primary charge of Trump's 'collusion' with Russian attempts to interfere in our election (which means Hillary lost on her own) and he has refuted charges of obstruction of justice into that investigation including that of Mike Flynn.
country roads89 is already onto the next 'meme' :
Comey was worried Trump might "lie" so he kept notes of their meetings. He "lied" impugning the integrity of the FBI. Trump demanded "loyalty" and fired Comey on lies because Comey refused to pledge his "loyalty" to Trump.
Impeachable offense don't you know? Trump might actually "Lie"!!!!!! He did lie on Comey!!!!!!
Will he lie again?
Who knows, we must investigate the allegation because of the seriousness of the charge don't you know? Trump's a "liar"....
Unreal
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What "trolling" Bru?
no votes were changed!
no collusion!
no obstructions!
The entire Democrat case against Trump has been shot down by Comey, nothing illegal, nothing unethical, nothing even improper!
The Left's entire case against Trump has been stripped naked by Comey's testimony and you're on here talking about "trolls?"
Beam me up Mr. Spock!!!!!!!
I would say rog's prediction on the OP is accurate. Three things I got out of it that is somewhat new. He called Trump and the Admin liars and implied several more times they could not be trusted, we learned he did turn over his personal docs to a third party to be given to the press to force a special counsel investigation, he identified a very improper conversation between AG Lynch and himself in calling the FBI iinvestigation a "matter" which was a political word and he used it which he now regrets.
The ball is in Mueller's court with the criminal investigation of the Administration.
The ball is in Mueller's court with the criminal investigation of the Administration.
Where do you think this leads Bru? Good analysis by the way. Did you not think it significant that Comey said he didn't feel he was obstructed, or that Comey confirmed Trump was not personally under investigation?
In retrospective, here is a timeline of events:
January 27 - Comey and trump have dinner, trump asks Comey to drop investigation regarding Flynn, Comey says no dice
February 13 - trump fires Flynn
March 30 - trump called Comey, no dice
March 31 - Flynn desperate, seeks immunity, Senate says no dice
May 9 - trump fires Comey
So in late January, Flynn was in very deep **** and the WH knew it. And then in late March, Flynn realizes there is no way out of this.
Interesting.
January 27 - Comey and trump have dinner, trump asks Comey to drop investigation regarding Flynn, Comey says no dice
February 13 - trump fires Flynn
March 30 - trump called Comey, no dice
March 31 - Flynn desperate, seeks immunity, Senate says no dice
May 9 - trump fires Comey
So in late January, Flynn was in very deep **** and the WH knew it. And then in late March, Flynn realizes there is no way out of this.
Interesting.
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As always, I feel my opinion is not too relevant as it pertains to important stuff. Neither is anyone else's on this board but that doesn't stop many insisting their opinion is gospel.
As I stated a few times which I don't know if you have seen, on the serious matter of obstruction of the President in an ongoing criminal investigation will wait until the facts come out and at some point that will happen with Mueller. I do believe Comey when he says the act between Trump and Comey during the conversation was Comey didn't feel at the time it was obstruction. But that doesn't mean his personal feeling is in line with the obstruction statutes. You just can't take one opinion or piece of information and come to a personal conclusion and then claim others that do the same thing and come to a different conclusion as being wrong. I'm going to let it play out and will continue to stay that course.
Yes, at the time Comey answered the question to Trump about being under investigation appears to be true. But that isn't relevant in my eyes. I am more concerned about the Russian investigation in how they got into the election stuff and whether or not any American assisted. In addition, I want to know why so many of Trump's inner-circle had relationships with the Russians and violated American's trust by not being forthcoming with the facts. But again, I will let the facts come out and will let all the amateur Sherlock Holmes here be completely biased asses.
Will anything come of the Lynch "matter"? I still don't understand why he would use a 3rd party to give his memos to the press - surely he could have got them to them on his own if he wanted to...or did he contact the media and tell them he was sending them via a 'courier'.
I had not read your other post at the time of writing this.
I'm wondering if the Loretta Lynch thing grows any legs.
I don't see how or why. Is telling Comey to call it a "matter" illegal? She is out of office and retroactive prosecution to a former Administration is rare. The current Admin has more important things to do. I can see how this new piece of information is infuriating and I'm not a republican and I'm displeased by it. But I don't see how it is relevant in today's world.
That's going to be the sticking point. If noone is willing to touch the prior administration, this one won't be touched for anything.
That's not exactly what he said. This is what he said:
"MANCHIN: Do you believe this rises to obstruction of justice?
COMEY: I don't know, that's Bob Mueller's job to sort that out. ."
I think it lends to more of a precedence thing, that kind of in conjunction with President Obama in the Chris Wallace interview in my opinion. Basically, and I'm not sure I even agree with it, from a precedent stand point, here are two very similar circumstances and in the case of the former, it was not determined to be obstruction. Will the latter be? Don't know. My guess is no. That and $5 will get you a cup of coffee from Starbucks, amiright?
Ha!
So it's Mueller's job to determine whether or not there is grounds for a case in regards to Trump, but it's Comey's job when it came to Hillary and her email.
Comey's coming across as a bit of a lightweight, who it trying his best to cover his ***. Trump should have never fired him, they're too much alike.
Does it really matter? Mid terms come and go . Trump agenda stalled and Dems return to one house because Repubs cannot get **** together. Dems stall if they get the House or block with the Senate. Swamp not cleared and politics as usual returns (without missing a beat). Short duration of hope to return to Country of laws. Hillary get another chance or pass on to Ugly Duckling?
I never said it was Comey's job. In fact, if you go back to the thread on Tuesday, I explained to a few of the bumpkins on here that Comey would not comment (today) on whether or not he thought it was obstruction.
Comey and trump are NOTHING alike.
Who took out advertisements defaming someone's character leading up to today? That's the lowest of lows. trump attacked Ted Cruz' wife (and I hate ole Felito). You think Comey would ever think of doing something like that?
Look at the way he (trump) fired Comey. No class whatsoever. I get it if you don't like someone, but show the dignity, class and respect that comes with the office to properly dismiss someone. Tell them face to face or at least give them a phone call and not let them see it on television while they are in a press conference in California on official duty.
Now folks in all honesty read what WVUBRU has written here as the results of this hearing, and compare what he says here against all of the speculation prior to today's testimony and see if the two line up?
WVUBRU, you too should line up what you've posted here against all of the charges and allegations that existed about Trump prior to Comey's testimony and honestly ask yourself if this (what you've posted) was the "smoking gun" proof of Trump's guilt you were looking for?
WVUBRU I also want you to point out to me collusion, obstruction, or any of the other outrageous charges that were being made by "unnamed sources" in the media, by recalcitrant Democrats, or delusional Leftists prior to what you actually heard today.
Take all of the time time you need, link me with whatever proof you think Comey produced with his self-serving mea culpa OK?
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