Comey testimony prediction...

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Now folks in all honestly read what WVUBRU has written here as the results of this hearing, and compare what he says here against all of the speculation prior to today's testimony and see if the two line up?

WVUBRU, you too should line up what you've posted here against all of the charges and allegations that existed about Trump prior to Comey's testimony and honestly ask yourself if this (what you've posted) was the "smoking gun" proof of Trump's guilt you were looking for?

WVUBRU I also want you to point out to me collusion, obstruction, or any of the other outrageous charges that were being made by "unnamed sources" in the media, by recalcitrant Democrats, or delusional Leftists prior to what you actually heard today.

Take all of the time time you need, link me with whatever proof you think Comey produced with his self-serving mea culpa OK?
I said a couple of weeks ago that the hearings would be impacted by Mueller. No one is really saying anything damning because of the investigation. Everything was very calculated. With that said, there was nothing even remotely damning from the last two days to get us anywhere closer to the Democrats charges, that much is for sure.

Moreover, the goal line has moved quite a bit. We are no longer talking collusion, after today, I doubt we're talking obstruction, I'm just waiting at this point to see what the next salacious accusation will be.
 

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I never said it was Comey's job. In fact, if you go back to the thread on Tuesday, I explained to a few of the bumpkins on here that Comey would not comment (today) on whether or not he thought it was obstruction.

Comey and trump are NOTHING alike.

Who took out advertisements defaming someone's character leading up to today? That's the lowest of lows. trump attacked Ted Cruz' wife (and I hate ole Felito). You think Comey would ever think of doing something like that?

Look at the way he (trump) fired Comey. No class whatsoever. I get it if you don't like someone, but show the dignity, class and respect that comes with the office to properly dismiss someone. Tell them face to face or at least give them a phone call and not let them see it on television while they are in a press conference in California on official duty.

None of you on the Left will admit the whole "Trump colluded with the Russians and conspired to obstruct justice" story has been blown to smithereens.

Now you and others on the Left are onto some other Trump malfeasance which is par for this course.

But your primary meme against him (Trump) has essentially vanished into cyberspace, along with the "fake news" reporting of the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, and the rest of the cabal known as the main stream news media.

A pox on all of your houses for dragging the nation through this quagmire!
 
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Moreover, the goal line has moved quite a bit. We are no longer talking collusion, after today, I doubt we're talking obstruction, I'm just waiting at this point to see what the next salacious accusation will be.

Oh, I don't think collusion is off the table at all. It is just juicier for the press to talk about obstruction and some of that is more apparent to the public.
 

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Moreover, the goal line has moved quite a bit. We are no longer talking collusion, after today, I doubt we're talking obstruction, I'm just waiting at this point to see what the next salacious accusation will be

Perfectly summed up right here in this simple short paragraph. :eek:kay:
 

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I don't think collusion is off the table at all.

Of course not Bru you still think there was! But where's the evidence Trump colluded with the Russians to steal this election from Hillary?

Where's the evidence he obstructed the investigation into it?

This is what we on the Right have been asking since you folks on the Left first started making those scurrilous charges and I thought this is what Comey was going to tell us?

You heard something from Comey I didn't?

I heard Trump wasn't under investigation

I heard there was no collusion

I heard there was no obstruction...maybe ironically there was by Loretta Lynch but certainly not on the part of Trump.

Educate me Bru?
 
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None of you on the Left will admit the whole "Trump colluded with the Russians and conspired to obstruct justice" story has been blown to smithereens.

There is an ongoing investigation, surely you are aware of this. Does Fox News never talk about it? Mueller just got the lead role about a month ago.

Now you and others on the Left are onto some other Trump malfeasance which is par for this course.

It isn't my fault that he (trump) provides us with some utter nonsense practically every day. Have him cough up those tapes. Remember, it was he himself that said there were tapes, not the media, not the left, not the libtards.

But your primary meme against him (Trump) has essentially vanished into cyberspace.

Comey himself said today that trump was asking him to "let go" of Flynn. I'm sure there are certain prosecutors out there that consider that obstruction of justice. And consider the totality of the situation. He sought out Comey, not vice-versa, when he knew there was an ongoing investigation. He intentionally cleared the room. He had already had two previous discussions about Comey staying on as the Director of the FBI. But he mentioned it again while telling him to "let it go" in a room that had been cleared to just the two of them.

quagmire!

The best part of your entire post.
 

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Where do you think this leads Bru? Good analysis by the way. Did you not think it significant that Comey said he didn't feel he was obstructed, or that Comey confirmed Trump was not personally under investigation?

That was the whole thrust of Democrat charges against Trump, and they just saw their Baby thrown out the window with the bathwater.
 

atlkvb

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Does it really matter? Mid terms come and go . Trump agenda stalled and Dems return to one house because Repubs cannot get **** together. Dems stall if they get the House or block with the Senate. Swamp not cleared and politics as usual returns (without missing a beat). Short duration of hope to return to Country of laws. Hillary get another chance or pass on to Ugly Duckling?

In my worst moments of brutal honesty, I think you are 100% correct here neil, but I sincerely hope you are 100% dead wrong.
 

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There is an ongoing investigation, surely you are aware of this. Does Fox News never talk about it? Mueller just got the lead role about a month ago.



It isn't my fault that he (trump) provides us with some utter nonsense practically every day. Have him cough up those tapes. Remember, it was he himself that said there were tapes, not the media, not the left, not the libtards.



Comey himself said today that trump was asking him to "let go" of Flynn. I'm sure there are certain prosecutors out there that consider that obstruction of justice. And consider the totality of the situation. He sought out Comey, not vice-versa, when he knew there was an ongoing investigation. He intentionally cleared the room. He had already had two previous discussions about Comey staying on as the Director of the FBI. But he mentioned it again while telling him to "let it go" in a room that had been cleared to just the two of them.



The best part of your entire post.

The longer you believe something may come of this the more you will be disappointed.
 

atlkvb

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There is an ongoing investigation, surely you are aware of this. Does Fox News never talk about it? Mueller just got the lead role about a month ago.



It isn't my fault that he (trump) provides us with some utter nonsense practically every day. Have him cough up those tapes. Remember, it was he himself that said there were tapes, not the media, not the left, not the libtards.



Comey himself said today that trump was asking him to "let go" of Flynn. I'm sure there are certain prosecutors out there that consider that obstruction of justice. And consider the totality of the situation. He sought out Comey, not vice-versa, when he knew there was an ongoing investigation. He intentionally cleared the room. He had already had two previous discussions about Comey staying on as the Director of the FBI. But he mentioned it again while telling him to "let it go" in a room that had been cleared to just the two of them.



The best part of your entire post.

I think you are reaching here countrtyroads89 to try and save face but I don't blame you.

I know there is an ongoing investigation, and we're still looking for the evidence of the scurrilous charges behind it. Comey didn't bring any, did he?

Trump may have been bluffing about the tapes (maybe not) but it was Comey and his infamous self-leaked "memo" making the charges of obstruction. Comey didn't produce any evidence of that against either the FBI or himself. It's all about his "intent" as he sees it.

Trump had just fired Flynn for not being upfront with the Veep, but as far as Trump was concerned Flynn had not done anything wrong. He wanted to know if there was anything the FBI could nail him (Flynn) on, and if not he wanted the FBI to clear the guy.

I can understand Trump asking to know what the Feds had on Flynn, Trump himself was ticked Flynn did not disclose his prior Russian contacts but that IS NOT obstruction of justice or asking Comey to exonerate Flynn if there was wrongdoing.

Now you and the rest of the Left are onto the "Trump lied and pressured Comey to change his investigation or clear Flynn" meme. Are we going to be hearing about this now for the next 6 months?

I guess we can go ahead on and send the Russians back on a one way Aeroflot flight back to Moscow?
 
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dave

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This has always been nothing more than a ploy by democrats to obstruct the President from implementing his policies. It is much like the birther movement in that way. The key difference is that when liberals play the game they do it with the assistance of 95% of the media. The poor true believers on here got played just like the birthers did.
 

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In my worst moments of brutal honesty, I think you are 100% correct here neil, but I sincerely hope you are 100% dead wrong.
I have a history to uphold. Hopefully I am wrong again, but politics also has a history. The thing that scares the hell out of me are the fence sitters on Repub side. They are stupid to demand perfect laws. Pass laws that void the bad Obama laws even if it is not exactly what you want. Pass the damned thing and amend what you see as a problem. If the damned amendment fails, you are wrong. First thing is to remove Obamacare with 51 votes. If you cannot get 51, be realistic and realize that Obamacare is the preferred healthcare bill. Move on and get the ***** economy moving. Without rebounded economy, Repubs lose mid terms. Move. Don't hold the entirety of program be held up fighting over Russia or whatever Dems throw out to block.

Typed all of this to see if computer is still freezing - and it is. ****.
 

atlkvb

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I have a history to uphold. Hopefully I am wrong again, but politics also has a history. The thing that scares the hell out of me are the fence sitters on Repub side. They are stupid to demand perfect laws. Pass laws that void the bad Obama laws even if it is not exactly what you want. Pass the damned thing and amend what you see as a problem. If the damned amendment fails, you are wrong. First thing is to remove Obamacare with 51 votes. If you cannot get 51, be realistic and realize that Obamacare is the preferred healthcare bill. Move on and get the ***** economy moving. Without rebounded economy, Repubs lose mid terms. Move. Don't hold the entirety of program be held up fighting over Russia or whatever Dems throw out to block.

Typed all of this to see if computer is still freezing - and it is. ****.

Once again all correct, and as much as I hate to admit it you are spot on.

I've posted that Trump gets evaluated on two things and two things only.

1) Are we safe and secure from radical terrorist infiltration or being overrun by illegal immigrants
(this is what propelled his candidacy last summer)

2) Are Americans who want or need better jobs able to easily find them at the pay rates they either need or desire?
(this is why Obama was fired and Hillary rejected)


If Trump gets a strong "Yes" answer to both of those questions, the Democrats won't be elected Dog catcher at the local animal shelter.

But I'm afraid because of your piercing brutally honest analysis of the candy *** RINOS serving up there on Capital Hill, that we are not likely to see any of Trump's agenda enacted to get him those two strong "Yes" answers he needs to claim victory and bury the Left once and for all.

I do hope you are wrong, but I can't honestly admit that you are not.
 

atlkvb

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As always, I feel my opinion is not too relevant as it pertains to important stuff. Neither is anyone else's on this board but that doesn't stop many insisting their opinion is gospel.

As I stated a few times which I don't know if you have seen, on the serious matter of obstruction of the President in an ongoing criminal investigation will wait until the facts come out and at some point that will happen with Mueller. I do believe Comey when he says the act between Trump and Comey during the conversation was Comey didn't feel at the time it was obstruction. But that doesn't mean his personal feeling is in line with the obstruction statutes. You just can't take one opinion or piece of information and come to a personal conclusion and then claim others that do the same thing and come to a different conclusion as being wrong. I'm going to let it play out and will continue to stay that course.

Yes, at the time Comey answered the question to Trump about being under investigation appears to be true. But that isn't relevant in my eyes. I am more concerned about the Russian investigation in how they got into the election stuff and whether or not any American assisted. In addition, I want to know why so many of Trump's inner-circle had relationships with the Russians and violated American's trust by not being forthcoming with the facts. But again, I will let the facts come out and will let all the amateur Sherlock Holmes here be completely biased asses.

Fair enough to wait and let it all play out, but brick by brick the wall you've constructed here is being dismantled by lack of evidence.

Comey just took a huge wrecking ball to it!
 

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All the victory dancing is fun to watch since it's early innings. As you were.
 

atlkvb

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All the victory dancing is fun to watch since it's early innings. As you were.

I'm having a blast watching the Left develop new memes against Trump (predicted) and try to explain why all of the previous reporting turned out to be so wrong?

All of it?

Nothing has turned out to be true...none of it.

Pitiful.
 

WVUBRU

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All the victory dancing is fun to watch since it's early innings. As you were.
That is true. I watched the entire hearing and a bunch of the after analysis on several channels and the spin on both sides is happening as expected. But in my estimation, one side is far from reality.
 

atlkvb

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in my estimation, one side is far from reality.

They (Media) missed the Loretta Lynch "obstruction" activity, since they're still waiting on the Trump obstruction evidence I wonder what they'll do about these blatant Lynch revelations while they're waiting on the inevitable damaging Trump evidence?
 
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mneilmont

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All the victory dancing is fun to watch since it's early innings. As you were.
Speaking from experience? Dems on this board have reinforced their inability to last a lifetime. Silence please.
 

dave

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All the victory dancing is fun to watch since it's early innings. As you were.
No no no.....please keep your hopes up supertard. This board will never be the same without your childlike logic.