Coming up with the money to hire big name assistants

[*Bleedingblue*]

I've been thinking about this and I posted a bit on it last night... where to get the money to hire a good OC and DC and assistants.
Since everybody wants Stoops gone since his staff is horrible sans Marrow why don't you take the money that would be paid out to Stoops in the buy out and put it towards hiring much better coordinators and assistants? If his buy out and the present assistants is around the 20 million mark you could buy a lot of coach with that and leave Stoops doing the head coach duties like kissing babies, making speeches and closing commitments of the recruits. Leave the offensive duties to the OC and the D to the DC.
You could take that 20 million and and pay a very good OC or DC 2 million a year and have good assistants making 500k or more. Some big names are out their looking for some work and if you throw enough money out their you will land some good coaches with big time experience in how to win at SEC programs.

It's cheaper in the long run to do this and it also buys Stoops more time as a coach here to improve the program. He would get another 3 years min and I'm sure the recruiting would improve and the sideline coaching would improve immensely.

 

[kentuckyrld]

We don't need big name assistants. We need a real coach. This nightmare will not end until we get a real coach.

 

[LowCountryCat]

I've been thinking about this and I posted a bit on it last night... where to get the money to hire a good OC and DC and assistants.
Since everybody wants Stoops gone since his staff is horrible sans Marrow why don't you take the money that would be paid out to Stoops in the buy out and put it towards hiring much better coordinators and assistants? If his buy out and the present assistants is around the 20 million mark you could buy a lot of coach with that and leave Stoops doing the head coach duties like kissing babies, making speeches and closing commitments of the recruits. Leave the offensive duties to the OC and the D to the DC.
You could take that 20 million and and pay a very good OC or DC 2 million a year and have good assistants making 500k or more. Some big names are out their looking for some work and if you throw enough money out their you will land some good coaches with big time experience in how to win at SEC programs.

It's cheaper in the long run to do this and it also buys Stoops more time as a coach here to improve the program. He would get another 3 years min and I'm sure the recruiting would improve and the sideline coaching would improve immensely.

Wouldn't Stoops object to you taking his money and spending it on something else?

 

[K_TIME]

I think upgrading assistants is the logical choice given the $15M owed to Stoops right now. The biggest problem is really good ones aren't going to jump on this ship in year 3 for an embattled HC. So your best bet is to latch onto to an unknkown in lower school ranks and see if you can catch lightning in a bottle.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

We don't need big name assistants. We need a real coach. This nightmare will not end until we get a real coach.

mmm what the heck do you think I was talking about? You think the head coach runs every facet of the team? How are you going to land a "real coach". Saying is one thing, what you are saying is not going to happen at all. Their is a buyout that you have to pay that is millions of dollars.

You take those millions and get you a good OC and DC and assistants. Take a look at every successful program and see who they have on staff and where those staff members cut their teeth and how successful they had been. We have that no where on our staff.
If you hadn't took a look at ours but our staff is Juco level or a OVC level. You have OVC level coaches and this is what you get... an OVC team.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

Wouldn't Stoops object to you taking his money and spending it on something else?

No you do not understand what I am saying

Fire Stoops- he is going to get paid not to coach at 3.5 million a year
hire new coach- he is going to get 3 million per year

Thats 6.5 million you are paying for head coaches. One is not working and another who is.


It's cheaper to hire top notch OC and DC with that money you would of paid to a fired Stoops.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

I think upgrading assistants is the logical choice given the $15M owed to Stoops right now. The biggest problem is really good ones aren't going to jump on this ship in year 3 for an embattled HC. So your best bet is to latch onto to an unknkown in lower school ranks and see if you can catch lightning in a bottle.

Their are several coaches looking for work now. You don't think that the admin wouldn't give Stoops longer than 1 year if he had hired say.... brent venables and Lincoln Riley

Riley is making 500k at Oklahoma and they look totally different than they had been on O.
Venables is only making 875K, make that 1.5 million and he will look hard.
Gene Chizik is making 750K at UNC and has really turned around their D big time.

Just a couple of examples I'm throwing out to the wolves.

Cam Cameron makes 1.3 million at LSU
Kirby Smart makes 1.5 million at Bama starting this season
etc .. This is the money it takes to land and keep good coaches on your team. The better they are the less work the head coach has to do to prepare the team.

 

[downw/ball-lineD]

Hearing Mitch is already being stingy with any more requests for money and staff.. Ridiculous if true

 

[Saguaro Cat]

Their are several coaches looking for work now. You don't think that the admin wouldn't give Stoops longer than 1 year if he had hired say.... brent venables and Lincoln Riley

Riley is making 500k at Oklahoma and they look totally different than they had been on O.
Venables is only making 875K, make that 1.5 million and he will look hard.
Gene Chizik is making 750K at UNC and has really turned around their D big time.

Just a couple of examples I'm throwing out to the wolves.

Cam Cameron makes 1.3 million at LSU
Kirby Smart makes 1.5 million at Bama starting this season
etc .. This is the money it takes to land and keep good coaches on your team. The better they are the less work the head coach has to do to prepare the team.

Riley and Venables next stop are head coaching jobs. It's easier to do that at playoff programs than it is here.

Everybody else is staying for glory and championships. And stability. It's not just about the money. We only offer rebuilding and a coach going into his fourth year without a bowl game. Top assistants don't want to move into that. They fight and claw so they can get away from it.

 

[BIGCAT4LIFE]

Didn't Joker just get paid off maybe that freed some money up.

 

[tntuk]

Eliot makes like $550k and Dawson is like $450 or $500K.

A Bo Pelini makes less than $250k at Youngstown St and is getting $150k a month from NE. UK could easily pay him $550K (i.e. - the same salary Eliot makes), which is more than double what he makes at Youngstown St.

 

[JohnnyGentle]

Their are several coaches looking for work now. You don't think that the admin wouldn't give Stoops longer than 1 year if he had hired say.... brent venables and Lincoln Riley

Riley is making 500k at Oklahoma and they look totally different than they had been on O.
Venables is only making 875K, make that 1.5 million and he will look hard.
Gene Chizik is making 750K at UNC and has really turned around their D big time.

Just a couple of examples I'm throwing out to the wolves.

Cam Cameron makes 1.3 million at LSU
Kirby Smart makes 1.5 million at Bama starting this season
etc .. This is the money it takes to land and keep good coaches on your team. The better they are the less work the head coach has to do to prepare the team.

OU has elite talent in a flag football league
cameron damn near got les fired
fixating on play-calling is a simpleton exercise. the receivers, qbs, and o line all failed to perform

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Their are several coaches looking for work now. You don't think that the admin wouldn't give Stoops longer than 1 year if he had hired say.... brent venables and Lincoln Riley

Riley is making 500k at Oklahoma and they look totally different than they had been on O.
Venables is only making 875K, make that 1.5 million and he will look hard.
Gene Chizik is making 750K at UNC and has really turned around their D big time.

Just a couple of examples I'm throwing out to the wolves.

Cam Cameron makes 1.3 million at LSU
Kirby Smart makes 1.5 million at Bama starting this season
etc .. This is the money it takes to land and keep good coaches on your team. The better they are the less work the head coach has to do to prepare the team.

To add to this, Muschamp is making 1.6 at UF, UGA paid both coordinators 1.3 this year and we fired our head coach. DC was a bargain, OC was stealing money. I don't know anywhere else, but the going rate for good coordinators is pushing 1.5 right now, probably be 2 mil within 5 years.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Eliot makes like $550k and Dawson is like $450 or $500K.

A Bo Pelini makes less than $250k at Youngstown St and is getting $150k a month from NE. UK could easily pay him $550K (i.e. - the same salary Eliot makes), which is more than double what he makes at Youngstown St.

Bo is a heck of a defensive coach, but talk about a loose cannon. With Stoops and him both being defensive guys that could get real ugly real quick. If he could keep himself under control he would be a great hire.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

Like I stated in my OP those are just examples of guys and how much they make.
If you want to be a big dawg you have to run with the big dawgs or get off the porch.

So far we have shown we don't want to run and be a big dawg. I'm sure we could pull a guy from the pros if you sling enough money around.

 

[ukcatsfan1]

No you do not understand what I am saying

Fire Stoops- he is going to get paid not to coach at 3.5 million a year
hire new coach- he is going to get 3 million per year

Thats 6.5 million you are paying for head coaches. One is not working and another who is.


It's cheaper to hire top notch OC and DC with that money you would of paid to a fired Stoops.

this is too reasonable for those calling for Stoops Head!

But it is exactly what needs to happen....

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

this is too reasonable for those calling for Stoops Head!

But it is exactly what needs to happen....

I'm glad that your a reasonable person who is able to understand logic. Lol

 

[Ctroberts1024]

Eliot makes like $550k and Dawson is like $450 or $500K.

A Bo Pelini makes less than $250k at Youngstown St and is getting $150k a month from NE. UK could easily pay him $550K (i.e. - the same salary Eliot makes), which is more than double what he makes at Youngstown St.

This absolutely needs to happen. It's about the only way I can jump back on the Stoops bandwagon. He's exactly what we need. A great defensive mind, someone who will yell at the players when they don't try or continue to make mistakes and HE'S A PROVEN WINNER. He never won less than 9 games at Nebraska. He knows the nuances that go on throughout a game as a head coach and can help Stoops tremendously at this.