commerical appeal calls out Ole Miss

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SolidDog

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Anybody see the write up in the Commercial Appeal where they are discussing the Grove Bowl and it says "record ~27,000 attendance (estimated at 14,000)"

Not sure if that is supposed to mean something else but to me it seems like they they think Ole Miss announced a crowd that was double the actual attendance.
 

SolidDog

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Anybody see the write up in the Commercial Appeal where they are discussing the Grove Bowl and it says "record ~27,000 attendance (estimated at 14,000)"

Not sure if that is supposed to mean something else but to me it seems like they they think Ole Miss announced a crowd that was double the actual attendance.
 

dawgstudent

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I think we had a tad over 20K.

Fedora said in the paper that USM had over 20K and his AD said 6K.
 

SolidDog

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But if our stadium holds 55K then I think we had close to 26 or 27 during the end of the 1st quarter... some of the crowd was late and a lot of it left in the 3rd quarter but when I was in the club seats looking down I told my friend I thought we hit 30K.. he said 25. I would be willing to split the difference.

Also I know they were doing an actual count in the club level, so I imagine they did that in every section.. I know it wouldn't be exact but can't imagine it would be 10K off.
 

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on the numbers, but on CSS it looked like a large crowd. At one point, it looked like one side was almost full.
 

elguapo543

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And you are obviously an unbiased expert in the field of counting stadium attendees by simply looking at the stadium, I assume?

Look, that's not so much an attack at you as it is a comment on how ludicrous this whole spring game smack stuff has become. All that matters is whether there were no people there (you guys, last year), a lot of people there (both schools this year), or a ludicrous number of people there (see Alabama's spring game last year).

A lot of people showed for both our games. Our stadiums aren't shaped the same, so there is no apples-to-apples comparison on how much of the stadium was filled, and I doubt any reliable counting procedures were in place at either school. I walked in with a group of friends who merely showed our IDs. There was no ticket given, no clicker clicked and no wrist-band given to the entrants. I would assume that since yours was free as well, the farce of 'tickets' was avoided entirely. Without having stubs to count, its ridiculous to pretend that we can tell how many people attended.

I would hazard that both schools' numbers were overestimated. All that's important is that both schools had a lot of fans interested, and that's a good thing for the programs involved. It means people are interested in the team and will come to the games next year. Outside of that, arguing over estimations for a SPRING GAME.... for a football practice... is just plain puerile.
 

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And let me add that we all have the same record we had 1 week ago. Still 0-0 with 12 games to play. I went to our spring game, and honestly I really didn't want to. The only reason I went is that a friend of mine really wanted to go, and he had no one to go with, and I decided to be a nice guy.

We'll have 60,000+ when it really counts this fall. Any guesses on how many we had this weekend really don't matter very much. I would've guessed 20,000+, but I'm no crowd expert. I'm probably better than Larry Fedora though.
 

HighPointDawg

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Oh I love it.

First, I wish we could pull up (maybe you can) the posts from last year when the NAFOOMers infested this board with smack talk about Spring Game attendance and how our 0-0 game was a precursor to our season. I guess it was.. but point is last year attendance mattered.. this year it didn't (I know I know Rebelbrusier you didn't care last year either). To me it doesn't matter either way but don't act like your baseball team that averages 6,000 a game was suddenly going to bring in an extra 20,000 fans. Plus isn't Ole Miss football the favorite for the National Title?

Second, You have the Memphis paper basically saying that Ole Miss doubled the attendance count, if you watch the CSS replay it is hard to tell but definitely didn't look crowded yet they were wrong because of the bias against Ole Miss. Rebel posters on this board claim the count was wrong because they walked in with a big group and nobody was counting anybody..

Then you have DESTIN BOB coming on this board claiming that the reason their attendance was lower was because it cost $10 (is that too much for Ole Miss fans?) but then on the same page of this board there are a number of Ole Miss fans claiming they were giving away the tickets like easter candy. On the Spirit they say that the offical word from the AD office was that you got two tickets for each season ticket you have purchased for the '09 season.

But the real question is this... if you had to have a ticket to get in then why the hell was the attendance ESTIMATED?

55-0 with the first team offense vs the scrubs is somehow comparable to dividing the players evenly and playing to a 24-21 result.. (..we already know you have a better offense/team)..

interesting reading today
 
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I was in Oxford; SEZ - empty. NEZ - empty. West - half full. East - half full. that's about 15,000 people.
 

RebelBruiser

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That would mean about 20,000 to me. The endzones seat about 20,000 total between the two of them. The sidelines seat about 40,000. Half of 40,000 is about 20,000. That's how I came up with my guess at the number.

Regardless of what the number was, it was more fans than I expected for a non-baseball weekend.
 

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To me it doesn't matter either way but don't act like your baseball team that averages 6,000 a game was suddenly going to bring in an extra 20,000 fans.
We didn't play home baseball last weekend. Personally, I was disappointed in the attendance, but I can't complain too much since I've never been to a spring game and will never go.
 

HighPointDawg

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My whole post was a druken rant but there were some posts I read (maybe Bruiser) that said if you had a home baseball series this weekend your spring game attendance would have been significantly higher...
 

Agentdog

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In Oxford, yes. In Starkville, no. We have never grossly over estimated spring game attendance. You may say this year we didn't have 31 but it was 6 or 7 or 8 less. But it is not like we doubled the estimate.

This board has enough OM apologist.
 

RebelBruiser

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HighPointDawg said:
55-0 with the first team offense vs the scrubs

Just wanted to add that I hate that kind of mix. I understand that we were trying to protect our best players since it was a full tackle to the ground scrimmage, but still you don't get a whole lot watching your offense and defense dominate your scout team. 55-0 in what amounted to half of a game (32 minutes of clock time, some of it running clock) shows us that our first and second teamers are significantly better than our scout team. I guess that's a good thing, but it doesn't do much for me as a fan if I'm wanting to see where the team stands.

As I told a friend, about the only thing you can get out of watching your first teamers go against your scout teamers is you can find out if you have problems if your first teamers struggle at all.

The one thing I found interesting is that we had Dexter in a non-contact jersey along with Snead. They're going to protect that SOB obviously.
 

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HighPointDawg said:
My whole post was a druken rant but there were some posts I read (maybe Bruiser) that said if you had a home baseball series this weekend your spring game attendance would have been significantly higher...

It usually is. If you make a full weekend out of the deal with a band, baseball, and spring game, you get more people willing to make the trip than if you only have a spring game. Most of our fanbase has to drive an hour or more to get to the campus, just like yours. You have to give them a good reason to make the trip. If you give them multiple events, you're more likely to get more people than if you just give one event.
 

HighPointDawg

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I see what you are saying but the numbers don't agree.. our baseball attendance was 10,000... the spring game was 30,000 if those people (including me) needed multiple events to come then the baseball game would have been packed out.
 

Agentdog

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one stupid 17ing thread

I agree. A few of our fans THINK we over estimated the size of crowd. Therefore, OM doubling theirs, is not that big of deal. Never mind a damn newspaper is calling OM out on it. A 100% increase isn't a mistake and obviously the Commercial Appeal doesn't think so either.

With that said, I should have completed my thought......"you may say.......but that doesn't prove State over estimated the size of the crowd."

Point is.....a press release claiming 100% increase in actual attendance is done on purpose. I don't believe State's figure of 31K was a gross over estimate.
 

RebelBruiser

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I'm sure they are out there somewhere. Someone has to have pictures of the crowds at both games. That way we can have a REAL good argument about who had more people for their spring exhibition.
 

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This was early in the game when I took these. A lot more people came in after everything got underway:

edit to add: sad part is I took these because I knew this was going to happen.



 

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Agentdog said:
one stupid 17ing thread

I agree. A few of our fans THINK we over estimated the size of crowd. Therefore, OM doubling theirs, is not that big of deal. Never mind a damn newspaper is calling OM out on it. A 100% increase isn't a mistake and obviously the Commercial Appeal doesn't think so either.

With that said, I should have completed my thought......"you may say.......but that doesn't prove State over estimated the size of the crowd."

Point is.....a press release claiming 100% increase in actual attendance is done on purpose. I don't believe State's figure of 31K was a gross over estimate.
So you think your fans under estimated and ours overestimated, but you think a reporter was on the money. Do you think Ron Higgins stood at the turnstiles and got a head count?

How about this....we concede to your superior attendance for your spring game. Your program is light years ahead of us as a result. You had 31k+ and we had less than 20k people at the spring games.

Now how many points or wins do you think this will count for in the upcoming season?
 

Agentdog

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Thanks Dova.

Considering the original structure held 33K ( I am sure some one will argue that figure), I would say 31K is pretty close. You move those people out of the Club Level, Luxury boxes, and west side chairbacks, you fill in a good number of emptys in the bleachers.

The point is not about who had more at the game though. The point is.... I believe Mississippi State University would not and did not purposely grossly over state the size of a crowd. Also, there is a big difference in missing by a few thousand and missing by 14,000. One could be an honest mistake. The other is a damn lie.
 

HighPointDawg

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It was people at the gate counting who came in.. nothing to give them, it was free.

Can we lock this thread.
 
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