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Did those 12 win their conference? Should be 10 conference champs and 2 wild cards.
I am against automatic bid for power conference champions let alone G5 conferences
Look at Oregon last year
You think Oregon deserved that spot over a better team
Basketball doesn’t do it
They award conference tournament champions
Plus they have a lot more spots.
Doesn’t change much
Here to give some of you a better understanding of the world…
Too many dumbasses on here like Greggor
Too many dumbasses on here like Greggor
I will you use Ole Miss for an example last year
.500 team because they played an all SEC schedule. But gave Alabama one of their toughest games and also traded punches with Florida
Indiana was a “Top 10” team who only had 1 defeat
Ole Miss beat the **** out of them.
If we will do CFP I am more in favor of doing the best 12 teams regardless of conference affiliation
Makes for better games.
This doesn’t prevent 1-2 teams from non power conferences from getting in.
But they will need to improve their OOC schedule
Can’t go 11-1 without playing a single Top 25 team in a G5 conference and expect to get in
.500 team because they played an all SEC schedule. But gave Alabama one of their toughest games and also traded punches with Florida
Indiana was a “Top 10” team who only had 1 defeat
Ole Miss beat the **** out of them.
If we will do CFP I am more in favor of doing the best 12 teams regardless of conference affiliation
Makes for better games.
This doesn’t prevent 1-2 teams from non power conferences from getting in.
But they will need to improve their OOC schedule
Can’t go 11-1 without playing a single Top 25 team in a G5 conference and expect to get in
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I disagree.
College football is the only sport that worries about that...everyone just uses the division winners, conference championships....
I think every conference champ should receive an auto bid and then have 3 or 6 at large bids.
Only 12 spots.
These conferences aren’t equal
Winning CUSA doesn’t mean much of anything.
Not too hard to realize if you allow every conference champion in you aren’t improving the quality of the product
Going to get some 59-0 games
These conferences aren’t equal
Winning CUSA doesn’t mean much of anything.
Not too hard to realize if you allow every conference champion in you aren’t improving the quality of the product
Going to get some 59-0 games
Isn't there 100 to 30 scores in NCAA? Get a grip. It's not like Texas is going to make the playoffs to get imbarrased like that.
64+ teams
Huge difference
No one wants to see the CUSA champion in the CFP
G5 champions don’t deserve guaranteed spots. You actually think these big conferences will give up spots for them.
ESPN has invested a lot of money into Texas.
They will win again since there is no leverage needed on them anymore
Only ESPN properties under the current system have a shot at making and/or winning the playoffs. This is the only reason why i.e. CUSA has little to no chance at any participation--they didn't agree to a midweek low contract with ESPN--therefore no coverage, no accolades, no playoff participation, while i.e. the MAC or AAC or Sunbelt do have a shot in recent years to get the one slot.
Only power conference teams can really be IN the playoff, that probably isn't going to change, they'll just make the super low paid G5 league or the BIG 12 if they can get away with it another power league with one guaranteed slot.
But what Sankey and OU and Texas did is causing other power conferences to be upset and they are now going to change the new playoff system so that the SEC/ESPN can't game it like that.
Only power conference teams can really be IN the playoff, that probably isn't going to change, they'll just make the super low paid G5 league or the BIG 12 if they can get away with it another power league with one guaranteed slot.
But what Sankey and OU and Texas did is causing other power conferences to be upset and they are now going to change the new playoff system so that the SEC/ESPN can't game it like that.
No….
They want to postpone expansion so it comes up for bid
This is a lot deeper than just CFB
Remember Fox Sports regional channels…
Those went away. ESPN had a lot to do with it
Unless FOX partners with another media company they won’t win the bid but at least they can force ESPN to pay a lot more for the 12 teams
They want to postpone expansion so it comes up for bid
This is a lot deeper than just CFB
Remember Fox Sports regional channels…
Those went away. ESPN had a lot to do with it
Unless FOX partners with another media company they won’t win the bid but at least they can force ESPN to pay a lot more for the 12 teams
Yes- they want more networks bidding for the rights so there is not a monopoly.
But also they wont allow one conference that schemed behind their backs to set a system where that one conference benefits to the detriment of everyone else.
Very well may not see 12 teams now, it wont expand until it can go to open market, and there will be limits on inclusion from just one conference- plus one network wont be deciding the field
But also they wont allow one conference that schemed behind their backs to set a system where that one conference benefits to the detriment of everyone else.
Very well may not see 12 teams now, it wont expand until it can go to open market, and there will be limits on inclusion from just one conference- plus one network wont be deciding the field
One conference is controlled by one media company
Another conference is controlled by another…
B1G turned down ESPN because ESPN didn’t want them to have that much control of the conference network
So they went with FOX. Then ESPN grabbed the SEC.
B1G actually had a chance to be with ESPN
Don’t feel sorry for either conference or media company because all the people are responsible for where CFB is today
Another conference is controlled by another…
B1G turned down ESPN because ESPN didn’t want them to have that much control of the conference network
So they went with FOX. Then ESPN grabbed the SEC.
B1G actually had a chance to be with ESPN
Don’t feel sorry for either conference or media company because all the people are responsible for where CFB is today
B1G actually hurts FOX….
Because they own a large portion of the conference network.
Why they are able to bring in the revenue they do.
Actually smart but FOX doesn’t have the ability to do much for them or any other conference
Disney on the other hand is sitting on a pile of money
They bought all the blue chips
Star Wars
FOX’s original company
SEC Football
Because they own a large portion of the conference network.
Why they are able to bring in the revenue they do.
Actually smart but FOX doesn’t have the ability to do much for them or any other conference
Disney on the other hand is sitting on a pile of money
They bought all the blue chips
Star Wars
FOX’s original company
SEC Football
So you want almost half of the CFP to be…
AAC UCF
MWC Fresno State
CUSA Louisiana Tech
SunBelt Coastal Carolina
MAC Buffalo
Doesn’t bring people to the television
Casual fans
Fans of those schools
You personally might want that but most of this country doesn’t
Fans are always crying about schools paying a school like Buffalo to show up in their stadium
Doesn’t matter what network picks who they broadcast. Bottom line, the lack of the NCAA or the CFL watching over all of college football making sure the entire Division one programs are taken care of (like the NFL commish does for all of teams) then this is what you get. Rest assured that when the big dogs get to the point where they create the super 32 (or however many that number may be) they will have a commissioner runner the show to protect the super 32 to make sure they stay on top and negotiate for all their deals.
The toothless NCAA has some blame in this, not enforcing the rules for decades, turning their heads when the Miami’s get away with more than SMU got the death penalty over (for example). They kicked Rick Huckebee of Marshall out of basketball for 5 years, but let Kansas and Duke run wild. They lost control when they should of been bringing the hammer down and looking after the entire schools best interest.
The toothless NCAA has some blame in this, not enforcing the rules for decades, turning their heads when the Miami’s get away with more than SMU got the death penalty over (for example). They kicked Rick Huckebee of Marshall out of basketball for 5 years, but let Kansas and Duke run wild. They lost control when they should of been bringing the hammer down and looking after the entire schools best interest.
That's not how this 12 team CFP was being pushed out.
Thought it was only the top ranked of the G5 member conferences, and then perhaps a 2nd, maybe even a 3rd one, if by chance they happened to be ranked within the top 12/15, which the CFP committee can keep them out of that, if need be. Trying to remember, but thought it was conference champions, 1 G5, and the rest were all at-large bids. That's why people want to see. Wouldn't make sense to watch Fresno State against Ohio State nor La Tech face off against Oregon. Need to have the best teams in the field. I can see them giving the G5 a single bone, just to keep them engaged, but they would be better served having their own league/playoff. Otherwise, if you're going to do it like this, WVU might as well join the MAC.
Choosing which teams are the best in what order is a very inexact science. Winning conference championships should be a very high factor provided a minimum number of games against P5 teams is a qualifier.
Once you go below the top 5 or so it is really a guessing game. Remember when the 23rd ranked team beat the 15th ranked team 70 - 33? Should an 8 - 4 Florida team that was ranked #7 ONLY because it was an SEC team and was thumped by under ranked #6 Oklahoma really deserve to play in the Cotton Bowl only to be exposed 55 - 20?
Conference championships should take precedence over the AP Poll when the championships are actually earned. Even including Oklahoma, finding 6 SEC teams deserving a playoff spot would be quite a stretch in nearly every year. Two? Sure, if they really deserve it. Three would be a stretch and any more would be a setup to embarrass an SEC team and exclude a better non SEC school.
Once you go below the top 5 or so it is really a guessing game. Remember when the 23rd ranked team beat the 15th ranked team 70 - 33? Should an 8 - 4 Florida team that was ranked #7 ONLY because it was an SEC team and was thumped by under ranked #6 Oklahoma really deserve to play in the Cotton Bowl only to be exposed 55 - 20?
Conference championships should take precedence over the AP Poll when the championships are actually earned. Even including Oklahoma, finding 6 SEC teams deserving a playoff spot would be quite a stretch in nearly every year. Two? Sure, if they really deserve it. Three would be a stretch and any more would be a setup to embarrass an SEC team and exclude a better non SEC school.
That is my point
No automatic bid for G5 conference. I am not even a fan for automatic bids from power conferences as well
There have been times when autobids to BCS games didn't make sense, when conference champs had 3-4 losses. UConn comes to mind. But, I think that will be part of the deal, unless there's some sort of stipulation placed on conference champs, like being outside the top 15 or top 20. Think that makes sense, but it also introduces politics into the selection committee, which you have today with the 4 team playoff.
Then who would decide with any accuracy which teams deserve to be in? Historically the playoff rankings have been a relatively poor barometer. So it turns into a beauty contest where a 7 - 4 Texas is picked over a 10 - 1 Cincinnati?
There has to be established criteria before a single game is played that makes it at least POSSIBLE for a G5 team to get in.
G5 teams could get in with a 12 team playoff but they will have to make sure to schedule quality OOC games
All based on schedule
Harder for some teams to play quality opponents because their conference doesn’t have them
Even for some Power conferences
Quality of opponents scheduled doesn't compare to quality of wins. The quality of any opponent is much more objectively determined at the end of the season, not 3 years down the road. All you can do is guess how good an opponent will be down the road.
True but Cincinnati could schedule 3 P5 games
Probability says at least one will be decent