Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

[Big Sheep81]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

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[msukb591]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

my honest opinion of Coach Mullen

He's a good coach but far from great. He is the best promoter of MSU football in its history. That alone is almost worth his paycheck. I think he puts together a good staff and we have above par assistant coaching. What he needs to learn is better game time management, better and quicker adjustments and give more voice over his assistants during the flow of the game, and when to get in and challenge ref's decisions. He needs to not hate the media so much.

We get to a bowl game and I think we're still doing good here. The goal is to win consistently. Honestly it's the only way our program will ever see Atlanta or better again. The eyes are still on the goal and they're still achievable even for this one season.</p>

 

[Sapsdawg]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

First, you are an idiot, so you should just accept that and move along. You've proven this repeatedly in this thread. As my first exhibit to your dubmasness is people keep telling you about Saban's first three years and you keep referring to what he's doing at 'Bama right now. Apples and oranges. You can't take a seasoned head coach with multiple national championships and NFL experience as he is today and compare to %@# who is in his 3rd year as a head coach. Dan's record to date is on par with Saban's first 3 years, Beamer's, and a host of other great coaches. Do you understand that now?

Second, you are an idiot for not expecting people to call you a dubmas and idiot when you display such strong passive aggressive tendencies. Telling someone they have their head in the sand="you're an idiot". Telling people your opinion and saying "Period. End of story" essentially says to others your opinion is not important, I don't care what you think, it's like your abc's and 123's it's how I'm telling you. How does that foster the "civil discussion" you claim to want.

By the way, no one, I mean NO ONE, outside of 6th graders types LMAO anymore.

Third, you assume what people were doing here during Croom's era to set up their opinion as you see it just so you can knock it down and beat your chest. You have no clue who was on this board or what they were doing 3 years ago so why not just deal with what they're saying now, and not make assumptions on what they must have been doing in 2007 to support your opinion now.

FYI, Jr. High QB (16 year old) Nick Saban would be doing worse than Mullen. lol.

I don't know what school district you went to, but unless you are truly an idiot 16 year olds are not in junior high. Though no one uses LMAO ever anymore, some people do still use lol....they're called women. You're also a dubmas for not expecting a harsh response when, in such a passive aggressive way, belittling someone's opinion like this. Ditto for calling people you don't know kid. The age range on here is, from what I can tell, 19 to 60. Unfortunately, I'm closer to the latter than the former.

I certainly think it's way way way too premature to push him out now.
That would be ridiculous. I will say that if next year we are sitting in
the same position we are currently sitting in then he needs to be
canned. My fear is that 2010 has bought him 2-3 years of being able to
suck with no consequences.

If you had come out saying just this, I'ld say the split here would be 50/50 with the 50 wanting to keep him saying so only conditionally on how the losses happen. Blow outs and I suspect everyone on here would agree with you.

State has tried the bend over backwards and give the coach 5-6-7 year thing and it didn't work out so well did it?

Well, you can't judge this with any accuracy. Most coaches haven't worked out whether giving them 3 years or 10 years, most have been awful. Jackie had some ****** years, 3 three win seasons as I recall, were you for ****-canning him after the 3 win season in the mid-90's I think? If not, you're very premature here, as I suspect you are elsewhere (see that's a classic example of a passive aggressive comment that pisses most people off) because Mullen has done equally well at the beginning of his tenure.

Alabama has numerous 3* guys that are impact players.

First, who are these "numerous" 3* guys? Second, when you have 4 and 5 star big uglies on both sides of the ball protecting you from the other team's big uglies, it's a hell of a lot easier to be an impact player than when you have 2 and 3 star guys in the trenches.

All in all, I'ld say you have little man (in every sense of the word) syndrome, passive aggressive tendencies, don't really know that much about football (though you are probably a Madden 12 God already), don't really "listen" (read) well what others are saying, and don't really think before you type. But thanks for the "civil" discussion about your opinion Mullen is not the right man for the job. Like most on here, I don't know if he is or isn't yet, but I do know he was the right man based on who was available at the time, he's done some absolutely tremendous things in his short tenure, but he's also made some big mistakes. Overall a B- in his first 2.5 years as a head coach. Good enough to wait on this conversation until about the 4th game next year.

 

[Incognegro]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

How has State tried to give him 5-6-7 years when this is only his 3rd?<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">

State has tried the bend over backwards and give the coach 5-6-7 year thing and it didn't work out so well did it?

</span></div><div>How could that have worked when we haven't even gotten that far in his tenure? That makes absolutely perfect sense wanting to fire a guy in his 4th season that still has the possibility of finishing 4-4 in the SEC when he was one game away from having us bowl eligible in his first year as head coach with the hardest schedule in the country, took us to the Gator Bowl and finished the season 9-4 and in his 3rd year, although disappointing to most, still has in good position to finish bowl eligible when the last coach we had for 5 years only gave us a winning season barely above .500 and his other 4 seasons had us win less than 5 games each time. You're making absolutely no sense and are completely unreasonable and you're wondering why people are undermining you?</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">
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[Maroonlegacy]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

I would add that we need to recruit / evaluate talent better. There is plenty of in-state talent that wants to stay in state. Mississippi is one of the most underrated states for talent in the entire country. The trick is getting some of these guys in school.

Develop quarterbacks. This is Mullen's bread and butter but it's not translating on the field. Relf showed glimpses of getting better, but at the end of the day he was the same qb that couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with a bazooka. Russell perplexes me. He is not the type of qb that a Mullen offense needs. The guy is one of the slowest qb's I have ever seen. He would be much better in a Mike Leach offense. Farve is not the answer.

A guy that would be a difference maker and perfect for our offense is Anthony Alford from Petal. I know he is MLB bound, but that guy is sick. Those are the type players we need.

Back to your post. I like everything you said, Mullen just needs to do it. I think he is falling short in some of the areas you mentioned. No better marketer in the country imo. It's going to be tough selling the program if the losing continues. And if the recruiting and on field coaching decisions don't improve, then the losing will continue.

Speaking of recruiting....
No excuse not to get Quay and Ward. Those guys are difference makers. Liggens too. Although he would be an extremely difficult pull. ****, Ole Miss pulls players from right under us, we can do it to them.

 

[Maroonlegacy]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

lmao at 4-4....are you high? We have no chance against Bama or Arky. I'm concerned about UK.

 

[Incognegro]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

since your reading comprehension seems to be just as bad. What do you think 17n "possibility" means? I'll throw you a bone and tell you that it refers to the chance (whether slim or large) of any future event occurring. Since we have to play at least 4 SEC games if we're 0-4 (considering aTm is joining us) the Mullen still has that POSSIBILITY to finish .500 in the SEC.<div>
</div><div>The only point I made with that one... single... word... is that wanting to fire someone halfway into the season before you can assess the final product when his previous body of work was impressive, good and decent is about the most foolish thing you could say.</div><div>
</div><div>I'm appalled that I even had to go this far to explain what the hell the word "possibility" stood for, but when it comes to you I shouldn't be surprised.</div>

 

[Maroonlegacy]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

Again, I concede. I am a passive aggressive 6th grade idiot women who knows absolutely nothing about football. But I am a Madden God. I'll take that.

Marcel Dareus
Terence Cody
Anthony Steen (heard of him)
Chance Warmack
Vinnie Sunseri
Damion Square

 

[Maroonlegacy]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

why don't you tell me where I said we need to fire Mullen halfway through this season.

 

[Incognegro]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

because you're talking about how we might want to start considering to look for a new head coach at this point in time because he's not putting up current Saban numbers (of course we're not talking about 16 year old junior high Saban). If we went 0-4 this time next year, we all know you'd be a giddy school girl rambling on about how you were right that Dan isn't our man.

 

[Maroonlegacy]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

You will not hear me say 1 17n word. I want Mullen to be the man. I want him to be the coach we all thought he was and still might be. I'm just not going to sit back and not say **** when things start going south. Especially when there are numerous highly questionable coaching decisions being made on a per game basis.

 

[Hector.sixpack]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

we need to recruit better, and it sure would be nice to pull some of them out from under Ole Miss.

 

[gravedigger]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

but you are absolutely confident that if he had MSU's team, he'd have gone to Auburn and beaten them.

Fine that's your opinion. It just lends you no credibility.

 

[Incognegro]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

And he isperenniallyranked top 10 in the damn BCS. He's able to do this because LSU is a hotbed that sells itself to recruits and his teams are able to win in spite of their coach. MSU is not there (yet). No matter what coach you get, they will always make dumb decisions on the job. That's just human nature. You will never find a coach that doesn't make their fair share of mistakes. As long as their product is progressing, I can live with that. As far as Dan, I really think we're still progressing but even I will admit it's too early to tell.<div>
</div><div>You have that right to question the coach. No one is taking that away from you. But you are coming off as a pompous prick all in the name of "civil discussion" and you can't seem to understand that.</div>

 

[digdawg]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

The problem is that he hasn't recruited enough talent in the past two years to help out. This year and next tmost Croom recruits are juniors and seniors. In year 3, the vast majority of Mullen's starters are still Croom's recruits. We will see how his guys turn out, but so far on the OL, the returns aren't promising after the Croom recruit went down.
This was a 8-5 team that went 4-4 in the SEC in 2007, and then lost 6 of the top 8 players in the spring/summer of Croom's last year due to the gun incident and suffered. However, this2011 team isnot much better than Croom's 2008 teamexcept theout of confernece schedule is much easier this year. This team lost one offensive lineman this year to injury - one player - and look how if affected the offense. Croom recruited extremely well his final 3 years at State. If you don't agree, then ask yourself why Mullen's recruits haven't been cracking the starting lineup (except primarly a few JUCO's). Mullen is reaping the benefits of Croom's players, but if he doens't recruit better, then the team is going to get worse, not better. Recruiting is part of being a good head coach. For those who think things were bad in the Croom years, I really don't see how they are any better today, except Mullen looks better on the sideline. Mullen has yet to beat a decent team in the SEC West in 3 years. Not one. If he had been recruting good enough to beat them in the future, I wouldn't care. But when the recruiting has got worse than under Croom, and Mullen seems to think thatCroom's recruits are better than his (because he is starting them over his), I'm very worried.
I think we will be good next year (many of Croom's recruits are seniors next year), but after that, I expect a drop-off.
If we go 6-6 this year, we will probably not have beaten one team in the top 100 teams in college football. (I expect thatLa. Tech and Ole Miss will drop further in the rankings). Not much of an accomplishment.
Here are the Sagarin rankings of the teams we have beat this year andwill probablybeat this year:
Memphis - 194
La Tech - 96
UAB - 204
Tenn. Martin - 164
Kentucky - 112
Ole Miss - 85

That is pitiful. Toshow how bad it is, Division I-AA Wofford with1,500 students is#48. Even i-AA Maine is rated higher than any teamthat we will beat this year!! (#80).

 

[Johnson85]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

in recruiting, but doesn't hold him accountable for it. Without going back and reading the guy's post I interpreted it like "he had his head up his ***", but other than that he was fine. Having your head up your *** in recruiting is a pretty big deal dont ya think? He wasted a golden opportunity last year to capitalize on the top in state talent after a 9 win season, thumping Ole Miss, winning the Gator Bowl.Now we are 0-4 in the SEC and I can't for the life of me see any legit players waiting in the wings.

Yes, Mullen missed a golden opportunity. First full year of recruiting, his naivety/arrogance cost us a recruiting class. Second full year of recruiting, there was a question of whether the NCAA and/or Slive would want to 17 MSU for allowing the Cam Newton pay for play scheme to come to light and with Ole Miss recruits basically publicizing their recruiting methods; it was pretty reasonable to sit tight for a year. Basically, Mullen's mistake resulted in a two year hole in recruiting. That's a pretty damn big deal, which is why it's unlikely we'll be able to make the step next year or maybe even the year after if we don't have at least five of our current freshment or r-freshmen o-line pan out.

That said, this is pretty easy to fix. Growing pains aside, I think it's pretty clear Mullen can coach. We'll have a pretty good idea after this year if he's willing to recruit. If he shows he's willing to be a good recruiter this year and/or next, and you know he's better than average at the other aspects of running the program, why would you want to fire him for a mistake he made his first year as a coach? Sucks that we don't have the talent on campus to take it to the next level in 2012, but that's going to be true whoever the coach is and I'd rather keep the coach we know can get a lot out of mediocre talent and then see what he can do when he gets talent on campus.

 

[Sapsdawg]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Okay, since the 2008 Alabama recruiting class you can name six 3* guys that you call impact players. Square has made 12 tackles and Sunseri 22 in 7 games, 1 fumble recovery no int's. Hardly impact players, more like contributors. You're talking about over 3 years and you're totally discounting the fact they're surrounded by 4 and 5* players. Once again proving you're a dubmas. Hell, we've had more 3* impact players than 'Bama if that's your whole list, and they did it with little to no help.

 

[Maroonlegacy]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

He is a very good coach and a fabulous recruiter. He also badly out coached Saban last year.

All coaches make dumb decisions or questionable calls from time to time. Making head scratching decisions on a consistent basis is what I have an issue with. And you should too for that matter.

 

[Sapsdawg]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

You do realize that Croom only recruited 12 OL in the recruiting years 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009, most of whom aren't here anymore. That's not enough to field a 2 deep OL, not even close. Whatever problems we have today with the OL stem from the lack of any upper classmen who can play worth a ****. You are a fool if you think recruiting is worse under Mullen than Croom. He left us with no legit D1 QBs, no RBs, no WRs, half an OL, and you are here extolling his virtues? We have no LBS, thin on the D line etc. Where are all these great Croom recruits you're talking about.

 

[Maroonlegacy]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="post-title">"You seem to be obsessed with your ***</span>" - LOL. Good one Sapsdawg.

Sunseri is a true freshman starting on Bama's 2 deep and a special teams demon. Bama coaches are very high on him. He is an impact player for Bama's special teams.

Dareus went # 3 in the NFL draft. #3.

Cody went in the first round.

I don't care if Cody and MD were surrounded by kindergarteners they would have made an impact.

Square is an NFL caliber player.

Bama doesn't have a ton of 3* players to choose from so finding 6 and 2 out of the 6 being NFL 1st rounders is pretty good. Could be more, but its tough for any player 3, 4, or 5 star to make an impact at Alabama as a Freshman or Sophomore. So that almost eliminates 2011 and 2010 class.

Of course we have more 3* impact players, 90% of our players are 3 stars. Bama might have 15% 3*'s

 

[Incognegro]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

I never said he was a terrible coach. I said in spite of his dumbass decisions and horrible clock management (if you even attempt to argue this you are retarded) his team finds ways to win. If he had MSU's talent and made those same 17 ups, I'd be impressed if he was able to do just as well as Mullen has been able to do here.<div>
</div><div>And don't tell me what you think I should and should not do. Obviously I don't look at these situations as you do. From what I've seen, a lot of times coaches will make head scratching decisions here and there on others more consistent than most, but a lot of times those head scratching moments are plays that didn't work but if they did the coach would have been heralded as a genius. So no... I don't see it the way you do.</div>

 

[Sapsdawg]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

Apparently, you're reading comprehension is lacking, too. The contributors are Square and Sunseri. They are contributing, but I wouldn't call them impact players yet. Cody and Dareus, clearly, but they were recruited in 2008, how many years do you get to bundle to try to say something about Saban's 3* players' prowess? That's the point, your initial assertion made it seem like they had a bunch of 3* impact players this year, but to get to some high quality names that someone has ever heard of, you had to go back to a 2008 recruiting class.

Of course we have more 3* impact players, 90% of our players are 3 stars. Bama might have 15% 3*'s

EXACTLY. And until we get more 4 and 5* players, there is only so much any coach can do. Auburn is loaded with 4 and 5* players, ditto Georgia and LSU. South Carolina, more than us, but not loaded like the others. I don't give Dan credit for hanging with these teams when we should have won 2 of the 4, but to compare what's going on now to "sucking slightly less" than under Croom is you, again, being a dubmas.

 

[Incognegro]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

This will prove to you how 17n stupid you sound right now...<div>
</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">

neither would Bear Bryant or Rockne or whoever else we want to compare him to.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Actually, I change my mind. Given the team State has this year, no question in my mind Saban would have gone down to JH and beaten Auburn. I take back what I said, Saban would do better given the exact same circumstances. He would also recruit better because he is a tremendous evaluator of talent. Alabama has numerous 3* guys that are impact players.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">It is too early to definitively say whether Mullen is the right coach or not. But it's not too early to have the conversation without being called a dumbass or a 17n idiot or bigot or a bear or whatever else I've been called in this thread.

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</span></div><div>And now you follow up with this ****?</div><div>
</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">

Sunseri is a true freshman starting on Bama's 2 deep and a special teams demon. Bama coaches are very high on him. He is an impact player for Bama's special teams.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Dareus went # 3 in the NFL draft. #3.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Cody went in the first round.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">I don't care if Cody and MD were surrounded by kindergarteners they would have made an impact.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Square is an NFL caliber player.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Bama doesn't have a ton of 3* players to choose from so finding 6 and 2 out of the 6 being NFL 1st rounders is pretty good. Could be more, but its tough for any player 3, 4, or 5 star to make an impact at Alabama as a Freshman or Sophomore. So that almost eliminates 2011 and 2010 class.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Of course we have more 3* impact players, 90% of our players are 3 stars. Bama might have 15% 3*'s

</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">Make up your damn mind</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">
</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">Your and dubmass....</span></span></div>

 

[Maroonlegacy]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

This will prove to you how 17n stupid you sound right now...<div>
</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">

neither would Bear Bryant or Rockne or whoever else we want to compare him to.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Actually, I change my mind. Given the team State has this year, no question in my mind Saban would have gone down to JH and beaten Auburn. I take back what I said, Saban would do better given the exact same circumstances. He would also recruit better because he is a tremendous evaluator of talent. Alabama has numerous 3* guys that are impact players.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">It is too early to definitively say whether Mullen is the right coach or not. But it's not too early to have the conversation without being called a dumbass or a 17n idiot or bigot or a bear or whatever else I've been called in this thread.

</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">
</span></div><div>And now you follow up with this ****?</div><div>
</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">

Sunseri is a true freshman starting on Bama's 2 deep and a special teams demon. Bama coaches are very high on him. He is an impact player for Bama's special teams.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Dareus went # 3 in the NFL draft. #3.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Cody went in the first round.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">I don't care if Cody and MD were surrounded by kindergarteners they would have made an impact.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Square is an NFL caliber player.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Bama doesn't have a ton of 3* players to choose from so finding 6 and 2 out of the 6 being NFL 1st rounders is pretty good. Could be more, but its tough for any player 3, 4, or 5 star to make an impact at Alabama as a Freshman or Sophomore. So that almost eliminates 2011 and 2010 class.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Of course we have more 3* impact players, 90% of our players are 3 stars. Bama might have 15% 3*'s

</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">Make up your damn mind</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">
</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">Your and dubmass....</span></span></div>

 

[LightninInside]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

Nice catch Incognegro! Told you he was a fraud.

 

[Sapsdawg]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

 

[Maroonlegacy]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

"your and dubmass" is six pack board speak. clever.

So "your and dubmass" is acceptable.
Reply correctly. Embrace the thread view.
17 is the F-word
No LMAO or LOL that is for kids and women (I am both apparently)
Anything else? Besides the idiot, dumbass, kid, passive aggressive, bear, lack of reading comprehension, etc. etc.

Back to my point. I don't think he caught me on anything. Bama does have numerous 3* impact players, but overall they don't have a ton of 3 stars when compared to Mississippi State. All the players I listed were impact, I don't care how you spin it. 2 players on arguably the best OL in the country is impact. I have no problem going back to 2008 given the fact that 2011 and 2010 classes are Freshman and redshirt freshman. This is not counting the players that when committed to Bama were 3*'s and then were reevaluated by recruiting sites and bumped up.

I am tired of talking about 17n Bama. This is about MSU and me being a dubmass that clearly has no knowledge of football unless it's on a PS3.

And no, clearly I do not spend a lot of my time on this board. I do like it here though, friendly place...lol. I know, I know, don't act like such an arrogant prick and people will be nicer. I got it.

incognegro has no problem with a head coach that consistently makes dubmass decisions. Roger that.

 

[digdawg]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

The problem is that Mullen hasn't recruited any. Every team has to play some young guys at some point on the OL. South Carolina was playing freshman on its OL against MSU. In Croom's 3rd year at MSU, he was starting <font face="Calibri">JD Hamilton, </font><font face="Calibri">Anthony Stauder, </font><font face="Calibri">Craig Jenkins and </font><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Eric Butler on the line. As to Croom's recruitng, check out the article today about Kyle Love, who is the heir apparent at NT for the Patriots. He said that Croom was the first coach to talk to him in HS. He went undrafted and says that the current staff basically didn't think he had the talent to make it in the NFL. Titus Brown, Jamar Chaney, Anthony Dixon, love, Pernell McPhee, Derek Sherrod, Chris White, KJ Wright - that is some serious talent that Croom recruited - and more in on the way to the NFL from Croom's recruits.
Sorry, Croom got Russell committed (legit D1 prospect for sure) and came close on several others. He signed the best WR on the team (Arceto Clark) and committed Chris Smith (the 2nd best). Gabe Jackson committed to Croom, Tobias Smith, Addison Lawerence, Q. Saulsberry - all the best OL are Croom recruits. As to RB's, I'm sure Croom would have gotten some good ones in the past two years. No LB's? Whose fault is it that Croom graduated seniors that went the NFL last year? Those guys would have been juniors if Croom still had the job - I'm sure he would have reloaded at those positions.And all the LB'sstarters are Croom guys.
We may be thin on the D-line, but the guys we have are super studs. Look at the two deep on the DL, it is full of Croom recruits: Ferguson, Stigers, Boyd, Cox, Jones, McCardell. At LB, they are all Croom guys.: Skinner, Wilson, Jones, Lawerence. CB?? Banks, Mitchell, Bonner, Broomfield. All Croom recruits.
If Mullen has recruited better than Croom, then why aren't any on the field yet?</span>

 

[Maroonlegacy]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

Hard to argue with that.

Mullen at State might end up being like Dennis Franchione was at Bama. All hype. Lot of talk. 1 big year with the old coaches guys. Absolutely no desire to recruit. Looking to jump ship asap.

 

[Johnson85]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

<span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">If Mullen has recruited better than Croom, then why aren't any on the field yet?</span>

he's not going to have a lot of the remaining recruits (who are generally redshirt freshmen) playing star roles. The first class Mullen signed was pretty good and it's going to hurt when they leave. Otherwise, while it's too soon to say, it looks like the recruits Mullen has been bringing in are about on par with Crooms's. Good enough to get to 6 or 7 wins with good coaching, not good enough to compete in the West.

Mullen has definitely made some mistakes in recruiting, but Croom left him in a bad position on the OL. That's why pretty much every back up there is a redshirt freshman. Mullen needed to find a JUCO to fill the gap (which is not easy but doable) or find a guy that was going to be ready to play as a RSfreshman (which is just about impossible except for the true freaks). He didn't do it and it's hurting us.

 

[Sapsdawg]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

Chris White and Pernell McPhee were brought in by Mullen. In 2009 the class started by Croom had 2 OL. Two is not getting it done. I think there are 4 OL from the Croom era on the 2 deep, that's it, not enough to field 1 line and certainly not what you would expect from the Senior, junior, and redshirt Sophomore years of Croom's last few recruiting classes. And 2 of them are marginal at best. Fletcher Cox was recruited by David Turner who was brought in by Mullen, not Croom. You need to go back and see who was responsible for recruitingsome of these guys and when they committed. Let's assume you're right, then Croom sucks *** as a coach to have such "studs" and lose to Maine and La. Tech and have 1 winning season in 5 tries among many other shortcomings.

 

[digdawg]

Convince me that Mullen is the right guy for the job. Tell me why he is a good head coach

Chris White and Pernell McPhee were brought in by Mullen. In 2009 the class started by Croom had 2 OL. Two is not getting it done. I think there are 4 OL from the Croom era on the 2 deep, that's it, not enough to field 1 line and certainly not what you would expect from the Senior, junior, and redshirt Sophomore years of Croom's last few recruiting classes. And 2 of them are marginal at best. Fletcher Cox was recruited by David Turner who was brought in by Mullen, not Croom. You need to go back and see who was responsible for recruitingsome of these guys and when they committed. Let's assume you're right, then Croom sucks *** as a coach to have such "studs" and lose to Maine and La. Tech and have 1 winning season in 5 tries among many other shortcomings.

Chris White and Pernell McPhee both committed to Sylvester Croom in July 2008, before Croom's final season even started. Five months before Byrne fired him. Mullen had nothing to do with those guys except they didn't leave. Coach Turner was hired by Croom in Feb. 2007 and coached two years for Croom before he was fired.<div> Problem is for Croom, when he was hired in Jan. 2004, Sherrill had two commits, both two stars, and the biggest lack of talent in perhaps SEC history (see Sherrill's final two years). Croom left Mullen with 21 commits, and a two prior years of great recruiting. Last years team was loaded with talent.

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