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57stratdawg

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Salsaritas instead of Chipotle?

Double follow up: apparently there isn't a Chipotle in the entire State of MS. What's that all about?
 
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Chipotle and its fear mongering CEO can go rot in Hell as far as I'm concerned.

Making a "satirical" series on Hulu about conventional farming practices that they know people will take as gospel is really going too far. Preying on people by creating fear is a real BS way to make money.
 
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Palos verdes

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Moe's opened up in the Jackson area about 10 years too soon. People had no idea what to make of it. I remember having to explain that it wasn't a barbeque joint.
 

DerHntr

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Chipotle and its fear mongering CEO can go rot in Hell as far as I'm concerned.

Making a "satirical" series on Hulu about conventional farming practices that they know people will take as gospel is really going too far. Preying on people by creating fear is a real BS way to make money.

I'm still surprised it does so well in Kansas when they promote organic beef on the door and while in line. There are a lot of folks here still closely associated to ranching and of course farming.
 

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I agree we need more places like izzo's but that place has some serious service issues. It takes those guys 5 minutes or more to make a burrito for you.
 

horshack.sixpack

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My experience at Moes in jackson and madison wasn't confusion about what it was. Below average food and people behind the counter scooping it up who, for lack of a better word, looked gross from a personal hygiene and appearance perspective. If you are going to have your kitchen personnel front and center then appearance actually matters.
 
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If that's the niche market you want to appeal to, that's fine with me, but don't use scare tactics and falsely demonizing farmers and ranchers to sell your food.
 

8dog

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Same here. People in jackson just werent impressed. You dont have to be anthony bourdain to get moes.

And apparently oxford wasnt impressed either. And isnt that ultimately what we all want to be?

And does everyone
Understand you dont just get to pick whatever restaurant you want when you open a development?
 

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The one I frequent routinely puts up signs that say something along the lines of "because of an expected demand for ___ our ____ is currently not organic." That's about every other week. During lunch hour the line is to the door still, so I don't think Chipotle relies heavily on the niche market, although they get it too. It's just good tasting food, and they justify charging you an arm and a leg by saying their ingredients are superior. In reality, it doesn't take much to qualify to advertise your food as organic.

Moe's meals (drink + chips) are cheaper than Chipotle's entrees by themselves, which to me sounds like a no brainier for a college town. I'll hold my judgement on Salsaritas until I try them.
 

57stratdawg

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How is Chipolte niche? They were the fastest growing franchise in America for a couple years.
 

FreeDawg

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Odds are 1 of 2 things: (1) Someone already owns franchising rights and hasn't yet acted (2) No one currently owns franchising rights anywhere in MS


When acquiring franchise rights, you usually get a time span (a few years) to open within the area's rights you acquired. If there is no action, it expires. It is usually a small area like a town and possibly surrounding areas depending on the size of the town. It would require a bunch of change to acquire the rights of all of MS for any franchise. My guess is that no one currently owns franchise rights for Starkville.
 

codeDawg

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Salsaritas instead of Chipotle?

Double follow up: apparently there isn't a Chipotle in the entire State of MS. What's that all about?

Answer 1: Chipotle does not franchise.

Answer 2: Starkville does not fit the urban / suburban demographic profile they target. Most of MS does not either. There are two in Memphis and the locations are very densely populated durning peak business hours. They want very high traffic locations. There is probably a place or two in Jackson that might work, but then it's the only one or two in the whole state.

Not defending the model, just stating what it is.
 

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My experience at Moes in jackson and madison wasn't confusion about what it was. Below average food and people behind the counter scooping it up who, for lack of a better word, looked gross from a personal hygiene and appearance perspective. If you are going to have your kitchen personnel front and center then appearance actually matters.
You've always got something to say like that. I bet you're less than a decade away from being a certified blue hair.
 

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$$$$

How is Chipolte niche? They were the fastest growing franchise in America for a couple years.

Made me some money, bought their stock in September and it's up 49% since then. I need some more winners like that.
 
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ShrubDog

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Chipotle is about as good as Cheddars...which means its not that good. I worked with both front offices in Florida when we were developing their new stores and got free meals. Nothing special.
 

codeDawg

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Yet Magnolia Avenue in Auburn qualifies?

I'm sure it fits their model somehow. I don't know anything about that space, but I would assume it is very high daytime foot traffic by people who don't mind spending a little more money on fast food.