Could have had Petrino. Fire Barnhart

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Huh? You're comparing Petrino's FIRST years with Strong's LAST years?

What kind of idiot does this and expects people to buy it?
He took over the same program the very next year. It's not like the program was down and he had to rebuild. But i guess an idiot like you doesn't understand that.
 

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Personally, I'd rather lose with class, than win with a POS coach like Petrino. No way in hell UK would ever hire Petrino, or anyone else like him, and I'm 100% in agreement with that. We are above that, win or lose.

so you're fine with losing? Cats could have had Petrino, instead Got Stoops, Petrino will be 4-0 against Stoops come November. That's something I'm not fine with. Ahhhhh, at this point, who the he__ cares!! It's just the same ol Ky football.
 

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Again, that with NCAA for Cal, which I said I was ok with hiring because college athletics isn't exactly clean. That doesn't mean we have to hire dirtbags to be the head coach. There's other coaches we could hire that wouldn't burn the school down at a moment's notice if it was going to benefit him.
I live in Louisville so I'm around plenty of UofL fans. Most of them don't care if they cheat or their coaches are scumbags or how many scandals take place. As long as they win is what matters and they don't care how it happens. I always thought that was a HUGE difference between their fan base and ours but after reading the opinions of some on here I'm starting to think maybe that isn't the case. I truly thought our fan base was better than that and hopefully it's just a vocal minority on here.
 

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I live in Louisville so I'm around plenty of UofL fans. Most of them don't care if they cheat or their coaches are scumbags or how many scandals take place. As long as they win is what matters and they don't care how it happens. I always thought that was a HUGE difference between their fan base and ours but after reading the opinions of some on here I'm starting to think maybe that isn't the case. I truly thought our fan base was better than that and hopefully it's just a vocal minority on here.

Indiana basketball mentality. No different.
 

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This is so ridiculous. The basketball only crowd hangs their hat on some mystical "morality" that DOES NOT EXIST IN DIVISION ONE SPORTS. CAL IS NOT LILLY WHITE. COACH K IS NOT LILLY WHITE. WOODEN WAS NOT LILLY WHITE. RUPP WAS NOT LILLY WHITE.

The problem with them is they can't allow the perception that we'd hire a petrino because they've spent so much time bashing Pitino for marital indiscretions, they'd look like pathetic hypocrites if they admit it. So they sit in an ivory tower, pretend Cal is Jesus, and laugh at winners who bang females. Boo hoo mr. Beta limp shrimp.

Petrino was the obvious hire for UK. We screwed up. Barnhart gets another schmuck and basketball only fans get to pretend Cal is roses, Louisville is dirt, and wait for November.

If you don't think we should have hired Petrino, if you like Banrhart, if you think Cal is a great religious figure for the world, TURN IN YOUR UK GEAR AND STOP SUPPORTING UK ATHLETICS.

you ARE the PROBLEM. Fans that want to win don't support you or your efforts as UK fans. Run off with Flubby "great man" Smith and Joke Phillips. Maybe Barnhart can form a new Sissy boy beta university where you all sing "we are one" and lose every game in the season looking oh so high and mighty.

Losers. All of you.

I'm pissed.
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Some of you on here think you can win big time football games with a bible in one hand and a playbook in the other. I don't know if the combination of saint and football genius is out there or not. What I do know is a school like UK doesn't get too many chances to hire a coach the caliber of Petrino. Someone asked earlier if he has improved UL? Ask that in two more years when he has his recruits all over the field. But name me a game where his team has looked totally inept like ours did secomd half last night. I only have to answer for my deeds in life. I don't really care where a coach sticks his tally wacker as long as it ain't in my daughter or wife. Thats between him and his family. Until Barnhart gets kicked to the curb we will never come close to the results we desire in football. You've heard of seperation of chirch and state, well think seperation of church and sports. You can't run an athletic department like a church. I don't care what finger pointing comes with hiring an a-hole of a coach cause the ones doing the finger pointing are the ones getting their asses kicked. Mitch had his chance and he blew it once again when he passed on Petrino and now here we are four years later and we can't even tackle a running back. I'm tired of the yearly hype and letdown. Been a UK football fan for 45 years and the losing gets old. After last night it sure looks like more of the same.
 
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No everybody on here doesn't agree with you. I think most of us don't want to have to cheer on someone of the moral character of a Bobby Petrino. And for you to compare Bobby Petrino to Cal it's just a total disrespect of the person Cal is. Like I said we don't have to guess what kind of person Petrino is. Unless you know something about Cal that the rest of us don't then you're just like all the haters blowing hot air.
OK you may be right, but you cannot deny that what he said about NOBODY caring about all that stuff but KENTUCKY fans is correct...it is being proven in recruiting and support from the fan base and big donors ,and am I not correct that TJ just upped the stakes by giving BP an extension and a raise
 

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Some of you on here think you can win big time football games with a bible in one hand and a playbook in the other. I don't know if the combination of saint and football genius is out there or not. What I do know is a school like UK doesn't get too many chances to hire a coach the caliber of Petrino. Someone asked earlier if he has improved UL? Ask that in two more years when he has his recruits all over the field. But name me a game where his team has looked totally inept like ours did secomd half last night. I only have to answer for my deeds in life. I don't really care where a coach sticks his tally wacker as long as it ain't in my daughter or wife. Thats between him and his family. Until Barnhart gets kicked to the curb we will never come close to the results we desire in football. You've heard of seperation of chirch and state, well think seperation of church and sports. You can't run an athletic department like a church. I don't care what finger pointing comes with hiring an a-hole of a coach cause the ones doing the finger pointing are the ones getting their asses kicked. Mitch had his chance and he blew it once again when he passed on Petrino and now here we are four years later and we can't even tackle a running back. I'm tired of the yearly hype and letdown. Been a UK football fan for 45 years and the losing gets old. After last night it sure looks like more of the same.

But morality man. Losing is so good when done the right way.

Signed,

Indiana basketball / UK football.
 

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Lets see ive been going to UK games since 1955. I have seen the losing side and very few instances of the winning side. I want winning. I really don't care what Petrino has done at this point. I want some wins. We have lost with dignity and grace for 60 years and I am SICK TO DEATH OF THIS BS. Bring on Petrino I will swallow my pride on this one and enjoy the wins.
 

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Indiana basketball mentality.
OK you may be right, but you cannot deny that what he said about NOBODY caring about all that stuff but KENTUCKY fans is correct...it is being proven in recruiting and support from the fan base and big donors ,and am I not correct that TJ just upped the stakes by giving BP an extension and a raise
So I guess the only way we're ever gonna win is hire an arrogant SOB and cheat like hell? Didn't we try that already with Hal Mumme?
 

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So I guess the only way we're ever gonna win is hire an arrogant SOB and cheat like hell? Didn't we try that already with Hal Mumme?

Louisville been on probation under Petrino? Didn't know that. I agree with you now.
 

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It's not the same logic at all. Not even close. Petrino's problems aren't with the NCAA. They're with the fact he's a world class A hole and deplorable human being. Show me one story that has Cal burning every bridge because he's a jerk. Show me one story where another coach is quoted as calling him a gutless bastard (as Mike Zimmer called Petrino). Until then, the logic isn't the same at all. People may not have liked Cal before he got here, but it wasn't widely known that he's a jerk like it is with Petrino. I haven't seen any stories regarding how bad of a person Cal is. Most stories are actually really positive about him as a person. Like I said earlier, I don't care about your, or anyone's for that matter, perceptions of someone else. They aren't facts. There's nothing I've seen out that attests to the fact Cal is a lowlife scumbag.

It all comes down to values. You value winning in football over all else. That's fine. In that case Petrino would be the right guy. Some people like myself don't want a grade A jerk off to be the head coach of the program. I don't care if we bring in a guy that has NCAA problems or other issues. It's not a holier than thou approach. It's really just about not wanting one of the biggest pieces of scum on all of the earth to be the head coach of the football program.
I don't know any of the details, but you do know that BP and his wife are still together and his family seems to have moved on from this event that happened in their lives...and my guess would be he is on a third strike policy with his wife and TJ and if this occurs again that both his marriage and career would both be over....and this is coming from a guy who hates Otis more than anyone and hopes they lose in every game in any sport they play.
 

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So I guess the only way we're ever gonna win is hire an arrogant SOB and cheat like hell? Didn't we try that already with Hal Mumme?
Not saying that at all and please don't compare BP to Mummy as coaches...BP really screwed some folks, but, once again, I'm just guessing he is on a short leash in his marriage and his job
 
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Saban didn't write a dear john letter wreck a motorcycle or get caught nailing a coed either
Nope. He just promised the Dolphins that he WASN'T taking the Alabama job then up and left shortly after.

Everyone who has met him says he is the biggest jerk, a-hole, they've ever encountered.

Not to mention all of the former Bama players who say he was paying them.

Saban is just as bad, if not worse than Petrino. The only reason people on here are so opposed to Petrino is because he coaches Louisville.
 

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So I guess the only way we're ever gonna win is hire an arrogant SOB and cheat like hell? Didn't we try that already with Hal Mumme?
I have moral standards.let the flatbill and linebeard crew sell their souls to the devil ...Winning is nice but look at yourself in the mirror..Pitino and Petrino cannot..
 

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I have moral standards.let the flatbill and linebeard crew sell their souls to the devil ...Winning is nice but look at yourself in the mirror..Pitino and Petrino cannot..

Have you informed recruits and their families yet? I just don't understand. I agree with you so much, but why are these recruits and families not getting it?
 

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I'll tell ha this, I don't want to hear one UK fan in basketball make fun of Indiana for their ivory tower "holier than thou" bs about calipari. We hired a winner that was perceived as dirty. We hired a man that was head over TWO PROGRAMS WHO HAD FINAL FOURS STRIPPED and fled from the last one. And guess what? IT DOESNT MATTER. HES DONE GREAT!

what is so hard for you to apply the same logic to football?

F'ing losers mentality. Please support someone else. I want to see a product before I die

Leaving Memphis to go to UK is in no way "fleeing" a job. That is called taking a big damn promotion to the best company in the world as far as college basketball goes. UK hired Cal because he was not found to be a part of either violation at UMASS and Memphis. A guy taking money from an agent happens a ton a lot of places, but the Rose situation was more strange/murky.

As for the thread about Petrino...it is what it is. We are not getting Petrino, did not get him, so bitching about him and what we would be like with him is a bit pointless IMO. I do care about winning games the most as a UK fan, whether it be basketball or football or softball or whatever. If the coach keeps it clean with the NCAA, and is a cheater, a bad father/mother, bad to their friends, etc, Idc, that is their demons and not mine. I just want to be entertained and have a winning product that does not cheat on the field/court.
 

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Leaving Memphis to go to UK is in no way "fleeing" a job. That is called taking a big damn promotion to the best company in the world as far as college basketball goes. UK hired Cal because he was not found to be a part of either violation at UMASS and Memphis. A guy taking money from an agent happens a ton a lot of places, but the Rose situation was more strange/murky.

As for the thread about Petrino...it is what it is. We are not getting Petrino, did not get him, so bitching about him and what we would be like with him is a bit pointless IMO. I do care about winning games the most as a UK fan, whether it be basketball or football or softball or whatever. If the coach keeps it clean with the NCAA, and is a cheater, a bad father/mother, bad to their friends, etc, Idc, that is their demons and not mine. I just want to be entertained and have a winning product that does not cheat on the field/court.

Of course it was. Best damn job in the country. Fleeing is the wrong word, but my position stands. UK hired a guy that was seen, universally, including UK fans, as one of the dirtiest coaches in the country. He has had 2 major infractions resulting in 2 stripped final fours and seasons. Do I agree, no, but it is what it is. And it's worked out great.

Why we can't apply the same logic in football is mind boggling.
 

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There's a difference in breaking NCAA rules and being a terrible human being. Some folks don't value winning football games over everything. Some folks value morality over SEC titles. It's not irrational to think that. Why root for a team when you know your head coach is a terrible person? How can you tell your children to grow up to be good people yet you stand and cheer on Saturday's for a guy who is just a terrible person?
you don't know what any of these people are like. you might think he's greatest guy on earth and all he has is a good PR handler
 

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So you think letting has uofl at a higher point than strong did when he left? I don't see it. He hasn't been a failure, but he has not improved the program either.
I guess you forget that he took over a miserable Arkansas program and had them competing for an SEC Title by his 3rd season.

He also took a Western Kentucky team in 2013 and kicked our *** with them. WESTERN KENTUCKY.
 
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I guess you forget that he took over a miserable Arkansas program and had them competing for an SEC Title by his 3rd season.

He also took a Western Kentucky team in 2013 and kicked our *** with them. WESTERN KENTUCKY.

But we're so moral.

Has 2adulterers informers recruits and parents about petrino's indiscretions? I don't think they know this. Of they have the same dignity as we, this is in the bag. I know they must have the same standards as we. Right?

Get the memo out to all recruits. Petrino is a bad guy and Stoops is a football deacon.

We've got this in the bag.
 

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You take a poll in 2008 and Cal ranks at the top for dirtiest coaches in college basketball. Probably the top spot actually. Do I agree, no. Do I think Petrino is the devil you think he is either? No.

Trying to win in D1 sports while keeping your hands completely clean is like trying to sit at the left side of satans thrown in hell while displaying no sin. It's not possible. I'm not comparing the men, I'm comparing the reality of this situation.

Screw Petrino, IDGAF. But in the future, we need to come down from the Ivory tower. We are losing our program and future fans to the team down the road while you get to keep your fake image that doesn't even exist. i don't know whats so hard about that. No one calls the morality program a winner and they sure as hell don't remember them.
Im sure you think Indiana basketball is so noble, right? They lose, have lost their image, have lost their place among the greats, but dammit they lose the "right way".

Wise up.
Hell, just look at Mike Leach and nobody seems to want to touch him simply because of his association with HM and he wasn't even around when it all went down.
 
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Of course it was. Best damn job in the country. Fleeing is the wrong word, but my position stands. UK hired a guy that was seen, universally, including UK fans, as one of the dirtiest coaches in the country. He has had 2 major infractions resulting in 2 stripped final fours and seasons. Do I agree, no, but it is what it is. And it's worked out great.

Why we can't apply the same logic in football is mind boggling.
Cal has NO infractions.He has never been named in an NCAA investigation.The NCAA commended him on helping with both cases..Don't let facts get in your way..You are a dweeb with no knowledge of sports.Maybe your Mommy should limit your internet time.:chairshot:
 

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But we're so moral.

Has 2adulterers informers recruits and parents about petrino's indiscretions? I don't think they know this. Of they have the same dignity as we, this is in the bag. I know they must have the same standards as we. Right?

Get the memo out to all recruits. Petrino is a bad guy and Stoops is a football deacon.

We've got this in the bag.
again you are mixing metaphors convincing folks you are 12 years old or younger..
 

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Best thing Barnhart EVER did was NOT hire Petrino...Nothing but a cancer to any program and in the past few weeks that ugly head has yet again reared..Kentucky does not need that ****....EVER!
 

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Louisville been on probation under Petrino? Didn't know that. I agree with you now.
Just because they haven't been caught doesn't mean there's no cheating going on. Damn they had stripper parties going on for how many years? And that wouldn't have come out if they didn't piss off Katina Powell. And how about president Ramsey? Corruption is part of the culture they have on campus and fans like you apparently wouldn't mind at all if that happened at UK just so we won more football games.
 

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Hell, just look at Mike Leach and nobody seems to want to touch him simply because of his association with HM and he wasn't even around when it all went down.

We've got a situation here.

Some of these fans are ate up by louaiville and are looking for anything to "beat them" without being able to beat them. It's that simple. It's the same situation Indiana basketball is in. Can't win the battle on the field, win the battle in another way. This is where this "right way" BS comes into play. Has we hired a guy like Petrino, you'd see the same reversal we had during the Cal hire. Some of the same ones hated calipari too, they just won't admit it.

We are in trouble. That's for sure.
 
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Just because they haven't been caught doesn't mean there's no cheating going on. Damn they had stripper parties going on for how many years? And that wouldn't have come out if they didn't piss off Katina Powell. And how about president Ramsey? Corruption is part of the culture they have on campus and fans like you apparently wouldn't mind at all if that happened at UK just so we won more football games.

UK handles it's business way different than UL. We can hire winners and control the situation. If not, WE ARENT LOSING ANYTHING.

But morals man, morals. We lose the right way. I'm all in.
 

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I never wanted Petrino bc I have my doubts he would of stuck around and programs are usually left in worst shape when he does because he brings in boarderline criminals that he controls while he coaches.

Can't we have a little of both? A good coach with a mostly clean record. Hundreds of programs seem to have them but UK can't.
 

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I live in Louisville so I'm around plenty of UofL fans. Most of them don't care if they cheat or their coaches are scumbags or how many scandals take place. As long as they win is what matters and they don't care how it happens. I always thought that was a HUGE difference between their fan base and ours but after reading the opinions of some on here I'm starting to think maybe that isn't the case. I truly thought our fan base was better than that and hopefully it's just a vocal minority on here.
I get it. We suck at football and want to see a winner. I'm a lifelong Bengals and Reds fan. I'm at an age where the last playoff run for the Reds was the first time I've ever seen them in the postseason. I was at the Steelers playoff game when we choked the game away. I remember the gut punch that was seeing Carson Palmer being carted off the field. Combine that with being a UK football fan, I understand the desperation to have a winner. I really get it. I just don't want a scumbag like Petrino. I know not everyone is angels and I don't want a preacher as the head coach but when another coach like Mike Zimmer calls him a gutless bastard (and that was his PC phrase) it says a lot about that individual. I just don't support that means to that end. Stoops doesn't lose because he's a nice guy. He loses because he's a bad football coach.
 
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