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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Bell Tolls for Thee" data-source="post: 132094618" data-attributes="member: 1812660">The bottom line is that while the Big 12 will never be the Big 10 or SEC, the post UT/OU Big 12 is undoubtedly a tier higher than the PAC 12 minus UCLA and USC given the programs available to the PAC 12 to add.  It is even more apparent if another 1-2 teams leave the PAC 12.  Lastly, why the hell do you think the Big 10 and SEC are expanding?  It is not as simple as just adding value, it includes trying to kill competition.  So a PAC 12 that maybe down 1-4 more teams in the next decade could try to limp along at a value less than the Big 12.  But if 4 of the teams left in the PAC 12 can jump to the Big 12 in the event of another raid of the PAC 12, those teams increase their value and harm the value of another group of competitors.</blockquote>