Hypothetically if LSU and Bama do have their rematch in the BCSCG and Arkansas happened to beat LSU but lose out from going to the SECCG and are sitting at 11-1, if Bama and LSU are playing each other, could Arkansas have another BCS bid?
Could the SEC have 3 BCS teams?
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Hypothetically if LSU and Bama do have their rematch in the BCSCG and Arkansas happened to beat LSU but lose out from going to the SECCG and are sitting at 11-1, if Bama and LSU are playing each other, could Arkansas have another BCS bid?
Since OSU is the only hiccup and they have to go against OU, if they lost, would that potential be there.
The rule states that there can be 3 BCS teams from the same conference IF BCS #1 and #2 are from the same conference and are not the league champions. Don't think there's any way that could ever happen, but it is in the rules.
If the teams are within 5 spots of each other in the BCS, I believe they go back to head to head matchup. Where is would get crazy would be if Arkansas, who will probably end up 6th when the rankings come out, beats LSU. If LSU were to lose, drop behind Bama but stay ahead of Arkansas, thenLSU would go based on head to head with Bama.
If Arkansas beats LSU, but doesn't jump either Bama or LSU, then LSU would go if they are still within 5 spots of Bamabased on their win against Bama.
Now let's say Arkansas beats LSU, jumps both Bama and LSU, and LSU falls behind Bama. Then Bama would go because they are within 5 spots of Arkansas and won the head to head. So it's possible Arkansas could finish ahead of Bama, but still not go to the SEC Championship game.
So the only way Arkansas can go is to hope that if they beat LSU that they jump them, and hope that LSU doesn't fall behind Bama.
If Arkansas beats LSU, but doesn't jump either Bama or LSU, then LSU would go if they are still within 5 spots of Bamabased on their win against Bama.
Now let's say Arkansas beats LSU, jumps both Bama and LSU, and LSU falls behind Bama. Then Bama would go because they are within 5 spots of Arkansas and won the head to head. So it's possible Arkansas could finish ahead of Bama, but still not go to the SEC Championship game.
So the only way Arkansas can go is to hope that if they beat LSU that they jump them, and hope that LSU doesn't fall behind Bama.
I think the human voters have to consider their blowout loss to Bama, and since LSU has been playing top notch football, the chances of them dropping more than 1 spot behind Bama to put them behind Arkansas just doesn't seem reasonable to me. Arkansas would need a miracle for them to play in the SECCG I think. They have a better shot of being the 3rd SEC team to represent in a BCS game (if that really is possible) than to go to the SECCG.
the only reason I disagree with LSU shouldn't play Bama twice is because it happens in the NFL a great deal of the times. Hell, the Patriots had to play the Giants again in 08 after they had beat them in the last game of the regular season. If I'm not mistaken, there have even been times where teams swept some of their divisional foes and ended up losing to them in the playoffs (I wanna say this was the case between the Ravens and Pittsburgh once...but I'm not sure). That's just the nature of the game... If we had a playoff, there would still be a chance that Bama and LSU would have to play each other again.. I have no problem with it.
but it's still football. No matter what system college decides to set up, it will never... and I mean never will have a high percentage of selecting the best team in the league since there aren't any best of 5/7 series. Hell, the same can be said about the NFL.<div>
</div><div>With that said, just because Bama did lose to LSU, I still do not believe that that undeniably means that LSU is the better team. I do, however, believe those are the 2 best teams in the nation. Isn't the BCS' job meant to put the best 2 teams against each other? Just because Bama lost to LSU by a fg in OT...why should they be denied the right to play in the BCS were LSU to be #1?</div>
</div><div>With that said, just because Bama did lose to LSU, I still do not believe that that undeniably means that LSU is the better team. I do, however, believe those are the 2 best teams in the nation. Isn't the BCS' job meant to put the best 2 teams against each other? Just because Bama lost to LSU by a fg in OT...why should they be denied the right to play in the BCS were LSU to be #1?</div>
it's about who earns it on the field by beating the other team(s) they play. Unfortunately for Bama, they lost to the #1 team that happens to be in their division. Bad luck. A rematch would basically be telling LSU that the first game didn't mean anything since Bama gets a do-over. Now that's 2 times they played, neither time in Death Valley and Bama only has to split? That's just not fair.
I hear reporters talk all the time that the BCS' job is to match the 2 teams the country think are the best. It's hard to argue against LSU and Bama being those 2.<div>
</div><div>While it may be unfair, what if we had a playoff and those 2 had to play each other again? How would that be less fair?</div>
</div><div>While it may be unfair, what if we had a playoff and those 2 had to play each other again? How would that be less fair?</div>
Of course that can happen. That's not what I was talking about. The original poster asked if 3 teams from the same conference and I answered the question. My point had nothing to do with LSU-Bama
If Bama's only loss is to LSU, not only did they win every other SEC game, but they even beat Penn State who still very well could win the B1G. If OSU loses, how does Bama not deserve to be considered the #2 team per the BCS mind set? Either way, if they replay LSU, I don't see how they don't deserve it either way.
I was looking up a couple of rules about the BCS since I was having a discussion with a friend of mine and stumbled upon this<div>
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</div><div>and inside there was this quote</div><div>
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</span></div><div>Someone else already said this, so just to back them up... there's the rule saying (at least from my interpretation) that there can be 3 BCS teams from the same conference if the off chance that the BCSCG was a conference match up.</div>
If Oklahoma State loses and Georgia upsets LSU in the SEC Championship Game, it's possible Alabama could still be 1-2 in the final BCS standings and Georgia goes to the Sugar.
OSU loses, then LSU loses to USC in the SECCG. Not a given, but it seems likely you'd have Bama as BCS1, LSU as BCS2, and USC as SEC champ, playing in the sugar bowl.
However, the more likely outcome would be that the writers purposely @### up the polls to try to drop LSU down to third behind OK, OSU, Clemson, VT, or Stanford.
However, the more likely outcome would be that the writers purposely @### up the polls to try to drop LSU down to third behind OK, OSU, Clemson, VT, or Stanford.
Since the last SEC game UGA has is against Kentucky. Even though anything can happen... let's be real... UGA is not losing to Kentucky and they only have 1 SEC loss to USCe. USCe on the other hand has 2 losses to Auburn and Arkansas and they don't have any other SEC games either.<div>
</div><div>If LSU does lose to Arkansas though... I wonder if they will realistically drop them that low in the polls. It'll be interesting to see to say the least.</div>
</div><div>If LSU does lose to Arkansas though... I wonder if they will realistically drop them that low in the polls. It'll be interesting to see to say the least.</div>
they lost to LSU...way early. And they will get an extra game in the Pac 12 title game against Arizona St, since USC is moot...could Oregon top Bama??...assuming all the other factors fall into place..LSU wins out...OK St loses...
If they all three finish 11-1 with their only victories against each other, it will end up going to head to head between the Top 2 teams in the BCS standings.
In that instance, Alabama will likely have vaulted to No. 2 or No. 1 in the BCS standings given the timing of LSU's late season loss in this scenario, and unless Arkansas trounced LSU, there is a good chance LSU would only drop a few spots to just behind Bama at say No. 3, especially given that Oregon will likely still be sitting in that 4 range.
In that case, LSU would win the tiebreaker over Bama. If that were to happen, then you could potentially have the No. 1 or No. 2 team in the BCS NOT playing in their conference title game.
The other option would be for LSU to drop far enough for Arkansas to pass them, but even in that scenario, Arkansas would be in a head to head tiebreaker with Bama, which Bama wins.
As I said in the title of the post, the only way for Arkansas realistically to make the conference title game would be for Bama to lose to Auburn and Arkansas beat LSU, so that LSU and Arkansas are both 7-1 with Arkansas winning the head to head. That won't happen though, because Bama isn't losing to Auburn, and I really don't think the Arkansas match up with LSU is a favorable one at all. I expect LSU to beat Arkansas by 3 TDs.
In that instance, Alabama will likely have vaulted to No. 2 or No. 1 in the BCS standings given the timing of LSU's late season loss in this scenario, and unless Arkansas trounced LSU, there is a good chance LSU would only drop a few spots to just behind Bama at say No. 3, especially given that Oregon will likely still be sitting in that 4 range.
In that case, LSU would win the tiebreaker over Bama. If that were to happen, then you could potentially have the No. 1 or No. 2 team in the BCS NOT playing in their conference title game.
The other option would be for LSU to drop far enough for Arkansas to pass them, but even in that scenario, Arkansas would be in a head to head tiebreaker with Bama, which Bama wins.
As I said in the title of the post, the only way for Arkansas realistically to make the conference title game would be for Bama to lose to Auburn and Arkansas beat LSU, so that LSU and Arkansas are both 7-1 with Arkansas winning the head to head. That won't happen though, because Bama isn't losing to Auburn, and I really don't think the Arkansas match up with LSU is a favorable one at all. I expect LSU to beat Arkansas by 3 TDs.
Who knows... you might be right. I just think it would be a close game that Arkansas may actually win. I really hope that we get 3 teams in the BCS because if that happened... other conferences would try to force the end of the BCS and we'd get a great payout in the end. Not a bad deal I say.