Could we stop with the negativity, please! *****

[Piscis]

I dont agree with the notion that we should keep a bad coach because we might not do better.

Our last two coaching hires have been text book, what not to do in a coaching search. A man who was just fired for gross incompetence and a guy who was never a coach or coordinator, but might be "our Dabo".

I dont think its a bad thing to want our AD to go out and hire an actual head coach, one who wasn't just fired, and see what we can get.

I have to wonder if the ship has sailed for making a change this year. There are already 6 open jobs (it was 7, but VT hired Franklin, taking probably the best unemployed coach off of the market) that have been open for some time now. Agents and current coaches all have to already be engaged in negotiations. Making the decision to fire Beamer now would put SC in the position of being the seventh and newest job opening. The SC job isn't some gem that would cause the agents and coaches to suddenly stop in their tracks to pivot to.

Bring Beamer back for 2026 but have him on a short leash. If things aren't looking good 4 games into the season, kick him to the curb and get an early start on finding a new coach.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I have to wonder if the ship has sailed for making a change this year. There are already 6 open jobs (it was 7, but VT hired Franklin, taking probably the best unemployed coach off of the market) that have been open for some time now. Agents and current coaches all have to already be engaged in negotiations. Making the decision to fire Beamer now would put SC in the position of being the seventh and newest job opening. The SC job isn't some gem that would cause the agents and coaches to suddenly stop in their tracks to pivot to.

Bring Beamer back for 2026 but have him on a short leash. If things aren't looking good 4 games into the season, kick him to the curb and get an early start on finding a new coach.

Big thing is, we can pay competitively. Franklin was making only a tad more at PSU than we are paying Beamer. I think we could easily do $9 million/year.

Of all the open jobs, the only one that probably presents competition for us is Arkansas.

 

[Lurker123]

Agree.

And our fans have to get over this notion that we would not be able to find a head coach candidate b/c other schools are looking. PSU, UF, LSU, Auburn...those schools are looking at a different caliber of coach than us. Maybe we'd be competing with Arkansas. UCLA, OSU and Stanford would probably not be looking in the same sphere as us. In all of FBS, I'm positive if we are smart, we could find a qualified guy. Can't guarantee results (ask FSU), but we could find someone.

We all know that every AD has a list of potential candidates ready to go.

Agreed. We need to shelve the idea that we are going to go against PSU for candidates.

I also feel like every year is going to have a few open positions "higher" than us.

Forget the splash hire, forget the top 3 or so "names" that are out there.

I mean, this is how low my bar is right now. Find a guy thats an actual coach wasn't just fired. There are a LOT of those.

 

[Lurker123]

Bring Beamer back for 2026 but have him on a short leash. If things aren't looking good 4 games into the season, kick him to the curb and get an early start on finding a new coach.

It would lower the buyout, as that is a percent of the pay still owed him over the years of the contract.

Would our portal losses and possible recruiting losses be that bad compared to a new coach being brought in?

 

[Piscis]

Big thing is, we can pay competitively. Franklin was making only a tad more at PSU than we are paying Beamer. I think we could easily do $9 million/year.

Of all the open jobs, the only one that probably presents competition for us is Arkansas.

I agree, but throwing money at a "name" coach who may or may not be successful seems sort of foolish. Spurrier wasn't really successful for a number of years. The fans would expect instant results if we were paying huge money to a coach.

I think the job coming open early of mid way through the season would perk the interest of some good, young lower level FBS coaches who wanted to make the jump to a P4 job and Donati would have time to weigh his options. Firing Beamer after this season puts Donati on the clock trying to salvage recruiting.

 

[Lurker123]

I agree, but throwing money at a "name" coach who may or may not be successful seems sort of foolish. Spurrier wasn't really successful for a number of years. The fans would expect instant results if we were paying huge money to a coach.

I think the job coming open early of mid way through the season would perk the interest of some good, young lower level FBS coaches who wanted to make the jump to a P4 job and Donati would have time to weigh his options. Firing Beamer after this season puts Donati on the clock trying to salvage recruiting.

Agree on the "name". We are middling, and should aim a little high, but focus on middling.

But would thise same lower level coaches not be interested at the end of this year?

I believe every AD has a list he works to. Even one with successful coaches. "Who would I want to hire if my coach left or got fired at the end of this year?"

I bet our AD has a short list already put together.

 

[Piscis]

Agree on the "name". We are middling, and should aim a little high, but focus on middling.

But would thise same lower level coaches not be interested at the end of this year?

I believe every AD has a list he works to. Even one with successful coaches. "Who would I want to hire if my coach left or got fired at the end of this year?"

I bet our AD has a short list already put together.

I'm sure they all have a list, but the name being on the list doesn't mean the coach would want or take the job. Donati could put in a call to Kirby but I doubt Kirby would take it, same with Dabo.

I'd give Dan Mullen a try. He is a great offensive mind and had good experience at Miss St., which is a similar situation as SC. UF wanted national championships, SC would be happy with 7-8 win seasons.

 

[Lurker123]

I'm sure they all have a list, but the name being on the list doesn't mean the coach would want or take the job. Donati could put in a call to Kirby but I doubt Kirby would take it, same with Dabo.

I'd give Dan Mullen a try. He is a great offensive mind and had good experience at Miss St., which is a similar situation as SC. UF wanted national championships, SC would be happy with 7-8 win seasons.

Agree.

Maybe phrasing it this way would help. I think, if the coach of say southern miss (pulled out of thin air) would consider us with a mid-season change next year, then he would probably consider us two weeks from now too.

 

[kidrobinski]

I'm sure they all have a list, but the name being on the list doesn't mean the coach would want or take the job. Donati could put in a call to Kirby but I doubt Kirby would take it, same with Dabo.

I'd give Dan Mullen a try. He is a great offensive mind and had good experience at Miss St., which is a similar situation as SC. UF wanted national championships, SC would be happy with 7-8 win seasons.

That’s one I would take right now

 

[rockingamecock]

We'll stop all the negativity when there's something positive to discuss.

 

[Forkcock]

Open up the check book for a good head coach and OC or quit pretending.

Beamer isn't a coach, he's a recruiter. He can only be successful here if he has great coordinators and position coaches.