Sure we know , it says it in the article. The dudes intestines were dying, that doesn't just come on in a day.
Covid and vaccinations
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This is so F-Up. Whether you fear the shots' side effects or not, you're at higher health risk of covid effects than of the shots and of the shots plus subsequent covid - by a long shot. Where you've been the last 18 months has nothing to do with your risks going forward.
At this point Bill, the Vaxx lovers will start to use shame tactics when you call them out on the BS. Typical and predictable
Or you are more likely to survive COVID and not get it again if you don't have a vaccine. Which was back to the point of the original post. Not what they want you to hear, but it's becoming more and more evident. Interesting how I could care less if you get it or not. If you want it, take it. I just can't tolerate people like you that think that since you are willing to take it then everyone should. Lots of reasons for certain people to take it, but there are also a ton of reasons for those that are healthy and don't have comorbidities not to take it either.
I honestly think if most people said to never get the vaccine, you’d be first in line to get the vaccine.
8 titties, this is a fickle group. The holier than thou mentality.
No, You are dead wrong. Fast forward to 4:19. It says that it would usually take them 30 minutes to "get him out the door" to be transferred. It took them 7 hours instead.
"Kakli told Begnaud that if it weren't for the COVID crisis, the procedure for Wilkinson would have taken 30 minutes, and he'd have been back out the door."
That is straight out of the CBS article. Again, the dude didn't die because of covid patients taking up space, which is the narrative being pushed. He died because of the advanced stage of his disease.
The VA hospital is also within 60 miles of the hospital he went to.
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Again, you are wrong. The article is misleading, but the report clearly states that the hospital was not able to do the procedure like most community hospitals can't and that it would have taken him 30 minutes to get him somewhere where they could do it. You're taking one sentence to try and convince people something that is not the truth.
You can't ignore the reality that people with sicknesses and illnesses that are usually easily treatable (like this one) are either A. Not able to get the treatment. or B. It's delayed because of the crisis.
I'm not a covid bro. I'm not a covid alarmist. But SINCE THE BEGINING of the pandemic this is the one thing that has been universally agreed upon. We need to try to avoid these types of situations where care has to be denied or delayed because of overcrowding due to covid.
Higher vaccine rates would have helped prevented this.
What you don't know is if that 7 hour wait for his serious condition was the difference between being operable or not. That has nothing to do with him being 3 doors down from an ER, which is what a POS like Begnaud can't resist but to interject.
But yeah, vaccinations are going to help lighten the load. So instead of misleading the public into thinking the virus is a threat to everyone, you tell them the truth; the virus is faster than before and the fat, sick or old need to get vaccinated because to a significant degree they aren't capable of fending off the virus without hospitalization.
They're the ones who are occupying those beds. That's where the bang for your buck is in regards to messaging, not this browbeating BS that's being put out by losers in media and politics.
But yeah, vaccinations are going to help lighten the load. So instead of misleading the public into thinking the virus is a threat to everyone, you tell them the truth; the virus is faster than before and the fat, sick or old need to get vaccinated because to a significant degree they aren't capable of fending off the virus without hospitalization.
They're the ones who are occupying those beds. That's where the bang for your buck is in regards to messaging, not this browbeating BS that's being put out by losers in media and politics.
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I stated the article was misleading, and it is in the sense that it’s pushing the narrative that this man died because of lack of ICU space, that is not true, in this instance.
I’m not taking “ one sentence”, the entire article states he didn’t die from the wait. The “ one sentence” was about the procedure, which is what a surgery is called. The man died in less than a day, this is an easily treatable condition if caught before that. Colon cancer is easily treatable, unless you just ignore until you start shitting blood. Pancreatitis doesn’t just up and kill you in a day unless it’s advanced.
You’re conflating my issue with this story, and coming to the conclusion that hospitals aren’t full. It’s not an either or.
People should get vaccinated if they choose, I and my family have, my daughter still caught Covid.
again, you’re stating your opinion as fact. You have no idea if he would have survived. What is indisputable is that his transfer and care was delayed 14 x because of the crisis in Texas. Would he have survived? We don’t know. But it’s an indisputable fact that he would
Have had a better chance had he not been delayed 7 hours.
It’s not an opinion that pancreatitis doesn’t turn fatal in a matter of hours.
Again, the story is pushed as the man died due to a lack of space, that simply isn’t true.
If you want people to start trusting the medical field, first of all Drs shouldn’t be posting this **** on Facebook, second, stop pushing stories with a narrative trying to shame people that is shady at best.
his care was delayed because of the crisis. You have no clue if he would have survived or not.
I trust the md more than you and your narrative
I think this was a pretty good example of what fake news actually is.
It's not news you don't agree with, rather "news" that is designed to reinforce an opinion or guide you to a conclusion, one that may or not be even warranted.
It's designed to make you think you know something you don't. It's despicable, pathetic, and frankly reprehensible. Trust the md! But the md didn't say anything other than the patient in serious condition needed a procedure, which other mds said later they couldn't perform.
I don't know if that 7 hours was the difference between between him being operable or not, though I doubt it. What I know for certain is that you are only doing yourself a disservice, and a serious one at that, by blindly putting your trust in theexperts media.
It's not news you don't agree with, rather "news" that is designed to reinforce an opinion or guide you to a conclusion, one that may or not be even warranted.
It's designed to make you think you know something you don't. It's despicable, pathetic, and frankly reprehensible. Trust the md! But the md didn't say anything other than the patient in serious condition needed a procedure, which other mds said later they couldn't perform.
I don't know if that 7 hours was the difference between between him being operable or not, though I doubt it. What I know for certain is that you are only doing yourself a disservice, and a serious one at that, by blindly putting your trust in the
You don’t have a damn clue what you’re talking about, by the way.
Sure I do, and that story is misleading, on purpose.
The Dr posted it on Facebook because he just didn’t know what else to do…********. He took advantage of a dying man.
Acute pancreatitis can kill. And do it quickly without proper intervention. Bottom line. I’ve watched it happen. But please, continue spouting off on things you don’t know about, per usual.
Gallstone pancreatitis needing surgery or a PTC drain, ARDS from pancreatitis, the ensuing sepsis, psueodcysts needing an IR drain, abdominal compartment syndrome…any one or combination of these can kill even a young healthy person without proper resources and interventions that may not be available at a smaller facility.
Gallstone pancreatitis needing surgery or a PTC drain, ARDS from pancreatitis, the ensuing sepsis, psueodcysts needing an IR drain, abdominal compartment syndrome…any one or combination of these can kill even a young healthy person without proper resources and interventions that may not be available at a smaller facility.
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Wonder if this was a staffed bed issue. If you recall, Houston Methodist basically fired/forced resignations of over 150 nurses in June.
Already forgetting you typed this?
Bed crunches are an issue everywhere. Whether it’s simply staffing or actual beds due to COVID doesn’t matter, because it’s all related.
Nurses are quitting, retiring early, and/or chasing big money for travelers in the hot spots. There is a national shortage of nurses due to all this. But some of the hot spots (central Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana) truly don’t have beds at all.
You are missing his point. What he is saying, which you don't want to hear, is that any of the solutions to his problem could have saved his life. Your body can heal. But there is a breaking point that he likely crossed sometime in the 7 hours that he was sitting there.
I'm not missing any point, you just can't accept that you can be duped by an article.
For the past six years, I've spent about an average of two weeks a year writhing in hospital beds due to chronic pancreatitis.
My last bout with it was this weekend. I almost didn't make it; even just an hour or two delay could've killed me.
So I just want to make a request: if it hits me again and I die because they're late getting me in again because my hospital's still filled to capacity with COVID patients, please, please don't let people like Bill Derington try to tell people otherwise. Thanks. :/
My last bout with it was this weekend. I almost didn't make it; even just an hour or two delay could've killed me.
So I just want to make a request: if it hits me again and I die because they're late getting me in again because my hospital's still filled to capacity with COVID patients, please, please don't let people like Bill Derington try to tell people otherwise. Thanks. :/
I would want to say this is unbelievable in this day and age. Especially after everything we've seen in just the past 5 years. Yet the Paddock never disappoints in sending us back to an earlier time and place.
Perhaps should be more concerned with a DR thinking the only thing he could do is post it on Facebook.
If you have pancreatitis that bad on a yearly basis you should lose weight and stop drinking.
No, just the blatantly misleading ones trying to push a narrative. There is an Ivermectin shortage because DR's are prescribing in mass quantity. It's also cheap, which is of no benefit to major pharmaceuticals reaping the Govt's open checkbook.
1) You have no idea if animal ivermectin supply chains overlap with human and you have no idea if or where there is a bottle neck. Odds are quite high that there is a predictable use of ivermectin for animals and there is an increased demand due people buying it unneeded, which has caused then shortage in otherwise stable market.
2) Ivermectin isn’t a CDC recommended remedy to Covid. So, while some doctors may still prescribe, that doesn’t explain greatly increased demand
3) You can always throw conspiracy theories at the wall and hope they stick, but you need evidence if they are going to be considered anything more than conspiracy
I weigh 150 lbs., barely have an ounce of fat, and I don't drink a drop of alcohol except on Halloween and New Year's. But thanks for your expert medical advice; I'll be sure to pass it on to my actual doctor. [roll]
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