Covid and vaccinations
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Once he found out he wouldn't be allowed to take the vax, he changed his mind. I mean this thread is about the vax, not Trump, correct?
It’s public info, you can look it up. The media sure as hell won’t tell you. They’ll create a narrative, like they did with ivermectin.
There are no credible news reports, just garbage produced by garbage human beings for profit, ideological and monetary, for you idiots to lap up like the dogs you are.
If there's anyone of any worth in that profession left, it's someone like Taibbi or Greenwald who are constantly attacked by those hyenas for actually doing something that looks like real journalism.
How would you know? You’re deeply entrenched in one of the partisan cults.
Anything that fits the conservative narrative is totally true, anything against is “fake news.” The other side y’all hate so much is the exact same way.
But I'm not a conservative. Those journalists I mentioned that I respected for doing actual journalism are liberals.
And I could finish your sentences for you. How?
I actually don’t hate Taebbi’s work. He’s an excellent writer, even if I don’t agree with all of his takes.
As for you not being a conservative, your posting and like history that’s viewable by any CI user tells a different story. So if you’re merely a right leaner instead of a right-winger, my apologies.
That's an error in logic. What I choose to post on is simply what I choose to post on.
You don't agree with his takes because you are psychologically conditioned by all those hyenas you think are trusted sources not to.
Not that I agree with him all that much, but you couldn't guess where and why I don't. I could however peg you to a T.
How?
Probably because I used to be one of those hyenas you mention? I have a hyena degree where I learned to vet sources, conduct research and build rapport with sources. Worked in journalism for 15 years with most of them coming as an editor. I enjoyed correcting bad copy and validating sources more than interacting with the public, covering government meetings and writing about perverts caught with child porn.
You obviously know me better than I know myself, so go ahead an pseudo-psychoanalyze me. This should be fun.
Yep. Many things. My top 5:
1. Starvation wages for a job that requires a bachelor’s degree. (My best year in journalism netted $29K)
2. Awful hours on a second shift schedule (once worked six consecutive Christmases)
3. Learned early on that editorial decisions are often based on advertising revenue.
4. Print is a dying medium and I saw the writing on the wall the day my former employer laid off 40 percent of its editorial staff in one day.
5. Transferred my skills to a $50K a year tech writing job; 5 years later I transferred those skills + journalism skills to my current position as a communications editor/project manager for a major corporation that pays almost four times what journalism did.
Thank you brave Americans for your sacrifices!
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Are you kidding! That’s a win,win, win scenario.
Beat Covid, beat parasites, and cut down on unwanted pregnancies all in one pill!
I think we would all agree that those who take Ivermectin not being able to reproduce is a win for society in general.
Ahh, the new Nigerian study. Got some Nigerian princes needing help with money transfers. Simps falling for fake news again. Hahaha
Never will learn
By the way, Japanese study says Spike protein vaccine invades every organ in the body. Including the reproductive organs. Japanese-----) Nigerian study
Never will learn
By the way, Japanese study says Spike protein vaccine invades every organ in the body. Including the reproductive organs. Japanese-----) Nigerian study
I was simply agreeing with part of what you said. However the majority of doctors all agree that prescribing Ivermectin and certainly taking it for Covid is not a good idea for multiple reasons. I won’t waste my time posting links (for every one you post in favor of Ivermectin, I can post 5 with reasons why it should not be used) because we already know how you feel about award winning journalists and medical journals. You’d rather believe the tweets of crazy Ralph who sits at the local barber shop and was visited in his dreams by a talking lizard who told him how to treat and beat Covid.
No, I'm just stating that Dr's are prescribing it, that goes against what you want to believe about people running to rural king and buying it to self medicate. I never stated it that it works, I don't know. I'm also fully vaccinated, as is all my family.
I'm not the one that has to be spoon fed info, and told what to believe. How many journalists won awards for a fabricated Russian collusion story, and how many of those same journalists are completely ignoring the very real story that Fauci green lit change of function money going to China for bat coronaviruses, and lied about it to congress twice.
If you work for the Feds, soft-serve Joe wants you jabbed:
Go back and show me where I ever said anyone was going out to Rural King to buy Ivermectin. I’ll wait but I’ll save you time. I’ve never said that. I’ve only said that the majority of the medical community states with proof that Ivermectin for Covid isn’t a good idea. You are being told what to believe. Trump told you that the media is fake news and you believe it. You believe every single thing he has told you. So continue to believe Crazy Ralph and ill continue to feel sorry for you.
No, I don't believe everything Trump or anyone has told me, ever. However, I do believe sworn testimony.
The only reason Ivermectin is even in the news is due to the media reporting that people are getting it at farm stores, and people ran with it because they assumed it was Rural republicans. It was a lie.
If my Dr were to prescribe Ivermectin I would take it, and I suspect you would too if yours did.
You know it's good satire when it takes you 4-5 seconds before you realize it's fake.
My doctor is smart enough to not prescribe Ivermectin. He is smart enough to review his peer journals. If your doctor is prescribing you Ivermectin for Covid, you need a new doctor.
Ok, but Dr's are prescribing it, they also prescribed last winter during the big outbreak. It may not treat the actual virus, but I'll bet it is being given to treat some of the symptoms such as inflammation, and I trust my Dr, if he prescribed it I'd take it.
Again my doctor is smart enough to not prescribe Ivermectin based on the many many medical reviews and journals. To say doctors are prescribing it is true (albeit only a very small numbers of doctors) but those doctors are quickly losing credibility within the medical community and are following the path of “doctors” like Simone Gold and her insane claims of alien dna, etc. If you are comfortable with a doctor with that reputation, then more power to ya. I will continue to see a doctor who has the support of 99% of the rest of the medical community behind him.
Why is case closed on ivermectin by mr TCurtis...but its good enough for a RCT by Oxford U? More than 30 ongoing studies according to the Cochrane review.
Is it really any safer to disparage and call it horse dewormer than to definitively say it works now (both are wrong IMO)? If trials like this come back positive, did TCurtis and his ilk ruin a viable treatment option with propaganda?
The Cochrane review notes an “urgent need” for good quality randomized controlled trials of the drug, and identifies more than 30 ongoing studies. They include the PRINCIPLE trial run by the University of Oxford and the National Institutes of Health ACTIV-6 study.
Truth is, the US NIH dropped the ball in 2020 on any and all repurposed drugs. RCTs for inpatient and outpatient settings should've been conducted by the US for many of these drugs. Fauci and Collins failed.
Is it really any safer to disparage and call it horse dewormer than to definitively say it works now (both are wrong IMO)? If trials like this come back positive, did TCurtis and his ilk ruin a viable treatment option with propaganda?
The Cochrane review notes an “urgent need” for good quality randomized controlled trials of the drug, and identifies more than 30 ongoing studies. They include the PRINCIPLE trial run by the University of Oxford and the National Institutes of Health ACTIV-6 study.
Truth is, the US NIH dropped the ball in 2020 on any and all repurposed drugs. RCTs for inpatient and outpatient settings should've been conducted by the US for many of these drugs. Fauci and Collins failed.
You don't know how many Dr's are prescribing it, I don't either. Ivermectin is a real medication, given to people, it isn't "alien DNA", nor are Dr's prescribing it in that category.
Taking ivermectin to treat covid isn't going to kill you, it's only "scandalous" because the media convinced people that people were taking "horse paste". Like I wrote earlier, Dr's prescribed at the same rate as now back in the winter, wasn't a peep about it.
I never said that Ivermectin wouldn't be a viable drug for the treatment of covid. I said the medical community, except a very select few doctors who are losing credibility, say it isn't currently and it isn't. It hasn't been approved by the FDA for the treatment of Covid. Doctors are going rogue and prescribing it. That is a problem. If you don't have a problem with your doctor doing it, more power to you. I on the other hand want no part of being a test subject for that simply because a doctor has a hunch. That is different than signing up as a volunteer in a trial for it.
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You missed the entire point which is the least surprising part of my day. You also fail to acknowledge the increase in calls to poison control and local health departments have surged due to improper use of the drug including overdosing or consumption of versions meant for animal treatment. There is plenty of info about that from NPR or WSJ but I know...fake news so I will just say K.
You also missed the point that they’re simply wrong or exaggerated on the calls to poison control. Take Mississippi, it was reported there was a 70% increase, in reality it was 2%.
What is a %increase? If a state went from 3 calls normally up to say 5 calls, that is a 66% increase, without an actual number attached it’s bunk.
I’m fairly certain that someone, somewhere has taken it, but to suggest there’s a vast number of people taking animal product is absurd.
Don’t be so gullible, open your eyes and take a peek around occasionally.
I'm a big fan of thinning the moron herd though but the problem with that is hospital capacity.
Just because you say they are wrong doesn't make them wrong. There are plenty of sources with the same numbers. It all goes back to you and your fake news claim to dismiss anything that you simply don't like. You think I am gullible simply because I do my own research and believe credible news sources instead of taking your "facts" as gospel. You spew numbers without every posting anything to back up your claims. I may be gullible and the research I do could be wrong. However, the likelihood of your information being wrong is the same as the likelihood of mine being wrong so you are just as likely to be gullible. The difference is I actually quote where I get my info. You on the other hand just spew out information without ever saying where it came from. Believing you certainly would be gullible.
If you want to believe people are overdosing on “ horse paste” countrywide, more power to you.
I never made the claim “ fake news”, you did.
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