Covid and vaccinations
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So now Fauci says that the "vaccine" did not work as effectively as they had thought it would and more shots and boosters are now necessary.
Just imagine if all of the prior vaccines like small pox and measles or any other one was said to need repeated 4-6 month boosters for the rest of your life. Folks, as some of us knew from the beginning, you are being duped.
Just imagine if all of the prior vaccines like small pox and measles or any other one was said to need repeated 4-6 month boosters for the rest of your life. Folks, as some of us knew from the beginning, you are being duped.
Lol, don't worry. The vax or die crowd will come up with some delusional take or post pro-covid vaccine propaganda misinformation to tell you otherwise
Lol. Reminder the CDC won't share data that shows what the numbers look like for those that get reinfection and if they end up in the hospital or die. Other countries have
Lol. Reminder the CDC won't share data that shows what the numbers look like for those that get reinfection and if they end up in the hospital or die. Other countries have
It's been almost a year now, and no widespread problems with the vaccine. However around 25% of people who have had Covid are experiencing long term issues.
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The vaxxed can catch and spread as easy as unvaxxed. Supervaxxed Europe is feeling it now. Who are you going to blame that on? Who knew Europe was full of Trump rednecks?
muh, no one said it would be perfect.
Why do you think they are finally talking about seasonality? The blue states are moving into spike season and you can't blame DeSantis.
Unvaxxed? Sputnik vaccine?Who is to blame?
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No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
This has become a common refrain among the cautious—and it’s wrong.
www.theatlantic.com
There aren't any unvaxxed here. 100% 2 shot vax since 9/15 and 80 % have had their booster.Unvaxxed? Sputnik vaccine?
No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
This has become a common refrain among the cautious—and it’s wrong.
They are at 150 daily cases/100000 right now. My county at it's peak, 11/2020, was at 130/100000.
They prolly just got a bad batch of vaccine.
Germany is 67.5% vaxxed.
Perhaps do your own research to determine what vaccine is/was available and how long it's effective in other countries you discover on Newsmax.
Good luck!
Perhaps do your own research to determine what vaccine is/was available and how long it's effective in other countries you discover on Newsmax.
Good luck!
I pulled Gibraltar off of worldometer. They are the most vaxxed country in the world and they won’t have public Christmas celebrations again this year.
How come?
Perhaps because thousands go back/forth with Spain daily? Don't know though.
If you include the clinical trials, it's actually been well over a year now for the vaccines.
I’m double-vaccinated — gladly so, on balance. But I’ve no fear of vaccine virgins. As the medical case for shunning the unvaccinated is unconvincing, vax passports and employment mandates function purely as blackmail. As a judge decreed when staying Biden’s edict: ‘The mandate’s true purpose is not to enhance workplace safety, but instead to ramp up vaccine uptake by any means necessary.’
Much western public health policy is now irrational. Governments need to detach from the product. Instead, they’ve detached from the facts.
Much western public health policy is now irrational. Governments need to detach from the product. Instead, they’ve detached from the facts.
Well, you can walk/drive from Spain across border - except when planes are landing (They put a gate down to stop driving/walking across the runway.). There aren't currently ferries to Morocco from G, but there are from Spain. Took one once on a day trip.
Weird that this aligns so well with fascism.
a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
how do you define “anti vaxxer”?
is it only the people who are opposed to all vaccinations?
or do you include people who maintain their right to make an informed decision based on each offered vaccine and the circumstances surrounding the decision?
Hopefully you don’t consider people who expect accountability and ask questions- perhaps even harbor a bit of mistrust with the Pharma Giants and The professional political class — automatically as “anti vaxxers”
it’s a good time for those who desire intellectual honesty to read George Orwell’s essay “Politics and the English Language”
it’s included in his “All Art is Propaganda” book and it’s more timely than ever -
Seriously though - what’s your definition of “anti vaxxer”
And - another question intended in good candor - is there ever ANY good reason to make the decision to reject/avoid a given vaccine?
Are there any manufacturing engineers here ?
anyone ever had to tour /inspect supplier facilities when they’re tasked with generating complex parts or components?
There’s another great analogy there as well i’d like to mention if we have any of those folks here -
happy saturday, cats fans !
fascism is - in my opinion- best studied by looking back at Benito Mussolini’s Fascist Italian Regime -
Note that his fascists revised history and even renaissance artists work so that the.new interpretation supported the State
The fascists openly proclaimed that their ruling class was “elite” and therefore regular citizens didn’t need to critically THINK or express beliefs -
They taught that the individual existed only to support the super state government
They glorified war and violence
They denied the concept of morality and chided the public as unable to determine what’s right or wrong - that was the job of The State
and their frontline leaders were mostly socialists before adopting the new mantle of fascists - both the socialist and fascist parties were formed in 1919 in italy as i recall - those dates MAY actually apply to all of Europe ...
There’s a GREAT book called “Backgrounds of Conflict” which was written shortly after WW2 - and it includes OUTSTANDING summaries and evaluations of fascism within italy , imperialism in japan, nazism and soviet communism from that era
fascism also included a characteristic where corporations merged with the State to enforce tyranny and oppression -
Fascism is alive all right - but it’s not stemming from your run of the mill citizens neither democrats nor republicans - neither black , brown nor white peoples -
so start with a solid historical and fact based foundation of what the word actually Means — then look around and listen closely
you’ll likely soon identify actual fascists hard at work !
for what it’s worth CDC doesn’t own the public health data that’s gathered within the various states
they must ask each state for permission to publish the data before they can assemble one of their Mortality/Morbidity and Wellness Reports for example (those are cyclical publications that CDC releases highlighted notifiable deaths, influenza activity, chronic disease prevalence data etc - they’re not complex releases intended to make deep analysis - but they do serve as mileposts for all stakeholders who want to reference longitudinal/recurring data on common PH topics)
So - CDC has data from the states regarding CV19 cases etc -
they frequently had to edit , recant and correct that data - but they do have datasets to work with
the question is - why aren’t they using that data to generate a robust stream of relevant and objective peer reviewed publications?
It COULD be that states are deny them permission to use their #s (growing mistrust perhaps?)
or they could just truly be sitting on the data and purposely not using it for meta-analysis/publication driven science
which would be unforgivable of course
and the epidemiology branches / personnel with their divisions ALL have publication QUOTAS -
they should be leading the way with not only in house papers and articles - but they should be visibly coordinating with Denmark , Sweden and other nations where they’ve clearly realized very different outcomes and with less narrow minded countermeasures
i’m not sure i’ve seen or heard them say one single meaningful or useful thing since the debacle began -
they should be audited and formally divorced from pharmaceutical cash and the influence that comes with it -
start holding them accountable for their budgets and the actual scientific literature they generate along with the linked outcomes that they’ve influenced with their work
i haven’t looked at their data but do you happen to know if that 67% figure for vaccination rate excludes people who have received one or two injections but aren’t current on “boosters “ and therefore - don’t count as vaxxed?
What goes into the #s is so important - and. i have no idea where our german friends are with this right now - i just know they have pursued and obtained a high rate of participation for the injection program
wish them well - germans are good peeps
Don't know if this has been posted here so...
So you are shooting stuff in to your system that is potentially harmful for a virus that has already run its course.
So you are shooting stuff in to your system that is potentially harmful for a virus that has already run its course.
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Why would Ron DeSantis do this?
Funny note, the article doesn't mention Whitmer but DOES mention DeSantis
Lol!
Funny note, the article doesn't mention Whitmer but DOES mention DeSantis
Lol!
Florida has been fudging the numbers with everything COVID related ever since the pandemic started.
And 4 deaths since August. Somehow they're great at fighting it off. Wonder why/how?There aren't any unvaxxed here. 100% 2 shot vax since 9/15 and 80 % have had their booster.
They are at 150 daily cases/100000 right now. My county at it's peak, 11/2020, was at 130/100000.
They prolly just got a bad batch of vaccine.
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