Covid and vaccinations
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Lol at Jameslee. Hey guy, no one with the polio or small pox vax has ever asked me if I had my small pox or polio vax so they could feel safer
Stop, you're gonna make his brain hurt.
Would be fascinating to compare the development time and testing techniques of those vaccines with the clot shots as well. You know, those VACCINES that actually do/did what they are/were supposed to do?
Not a "vaccine" that ends up necessitating a change to the definition of VACCINE. (1984 - Newspeak)
"anything that goes against the Biden fascist medical regime will be banned"
1984 is here
1984 is here
So for the pro vax crowd. Do you include those who have had COVID as equals to vaccinated? I am curious because the head of the CDC has mentioned herd immunity multiple times and referenced two different segments of the population as included in those with immunity. Those who have been vaccinated and those that have had COVID in the past. I am not sure why he seems to believe that those that have had it have reached the same level of immunity as those that have been vaccinated but the government hasn’t realized it yet.
8 titties they want you dead if you don't take the vax and if you do take the vax and happen to luckily survive, they will try to kill you with boosters.
8 titties. Lol. I am not sure if they want people dead or not but it definitely seems odd that they won’t recognize herd immunity through exposure rather than vaccine. Could be as simple as making money, which wouldn’t surprise me. I just hope they either prove it and move on or disprove it and show some decent data around it.
When Fauci mandates that the 3rd booster is required to be considered "fully vaxxed", you'll go to bed being fully vaxxed and wake up not. If you then get sick before getting the 3rd jab or within 14 days of getting the 3rd jab (even though you were full vaxxed 1 day ago), you will then be considered unvaxxed again and used as a statistic...
... Sheep.
Science for dipshits...
... Sheep.
Science for dipshits...
Merck creates new Covid therapy that may keep the infected out of the hospital. Time will tell what this does to dewormer sales in Florida. 
Lol at Merck's "new" Covid pill. Lo and behold it's closely resembles Ivermectin but cost $700 a treatment. No thanks, I'll stick with doctor prescribed Ivermectin.
Merck’s new drug shares molecular similarities to #Ivermectin. And why wouldn’t it? IVM is in a COVID-19 superstar… https://t.co/8IP8xyQJ7g — Frontline Covid-19 Critical Care (@Frontline Covid-19 Critical Care) 1623756897.0
This mechanism is to disrupt the SARS-COV-2 virus' RNA-dependent RNA polymerase (RdRp) enzyme," said Dr. Mobeen, who runs a medical education center. "Copying this mechanism will give Merck a way to earn from an existing cheap drug's action by relabeling it; however, I believe that molnupiravir will continue to be less effective as studies show that ivermectin has more mechanisms to disrupt the SARS-COV-2 replication and spread. Hence, ivermectin will continue to be a superior choice over molnupirivir or other RdRp disrupters."
Merck’s new drug shares molecular similarities to #Ivermectin. And why wouldn’t it? IVM is in a COVID-19 superstar… https://t.co/8IP8xyQJ7g — Frontline Covid-19 Critical Care (@Frontline Covid-19 Critical Care) 1623756897.0
This mechanism is to disrupt the SARS-COV-2 virus' RNA-dependent RNA polymerase (RdRp) enzyme," said Dr. Mobeen, who runs a medical education center. "Copying this mechanism will give Merck a way to earn from an existing cheap drug's action by relabeling it; however, I believe that molnupiravir will continue to be less effective as studies show that ivermectin has more mechanisms to disrupt the SARS-COV-2 replication and spread. Hence, ivermectin will continue to be a superior choice over molnupirivir or other RdRp disrupters."
Merck creates new Covid therapy that may keep the infected out of the hospital. Time will tell what this does to dewormer sales in Florida.
Remember, it’s experimental, so you anti-vaccine folks aren’t allowed to take this.
Lol why do vaccinated people need a Covid pill that is basically stealing the ivermectin formula?
Interesting that you cite Topol on this issue. Topol was not nearly as pro-vaccine prior to the election as he is now. As a matter of fact, he aggressively lobbied the FDA to delay approval last fall. Hmmm, I wonder why. I wonder if this scientist is also into political science, and, if so, I wonder what side of the political spectrum (that question is rhetorical, James- i really don't know what his true agenda was last fall) Anyway, FDA takes no orders from Topol, but it's still bad optics for him to make posts like he just did on Twitter considering his position last fall. And he is often called out for it.
But, at least, he's a real doctor, unlike that nutritionist that you and the other Covidians occasionally like to cite.
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James is only here to drop fake news
Imagine if people had to take the measles, polio, and small pox shots again because they didn't work
Covid vaxxes do nkj
Covid vaxxes do nkj
And the monthly pill they will be taking all the while still getting infected weakening their immune systems in the process.
You were vaccinated for several things shortly after you were born.
You are vaccinated for several things depending on where you have to travel.
MRNas are nothing new.
You should have started your protest a long time ago.
Damn, you folks are dumb. You make it easy for them to manipulate your tiny brains.
They're going to sell you a re-invented pill with only enough safety study to make it to market and without any long-term study of safety simply b/c you won't take Ivermectin- a drug that has been on the market (for humans) since the mid 70s and which has over 4 BILLION human doses under its belt.
You're a ********, man. Need to accept that fact and move forward, trying to do better than you have thus far.
Good luck with that struggle.
Except the Covid vaccines don't do a damn thing about stopping transmission.
Measles, small pox, polio vaccines didn't need free doughnuts give-aways and threats to lose employment.
Also those vaccines don't require boosters or whack jobs asking if "are you vaccinated".
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with respect - they ARE entirely new classifications of injections
the literature and various public health entities (plus industry) were pointing to the coming “genetic therapy shots “ that would one day be widely available to address a wide variety of issues and concerns
inwas excited reading about them before leaving CDC in 2011 - and was anxious to see what they may do for people- they were touting them as a way to help with hormone issues in aging people and a wide variety of other uses
but rushing the products to market and removing liability and having totally skipped human trials is not the way to do this
neither is injecting (haha no pun intended) bias throughout the various stakeholders (cash incentives to schools/hospitals and others) - and of course we never really had a chance to “go where the data lead” with any of this either since the surveillance AND testing models were illogically set up -
now there just seems to be a runaway train of moneyed interests and political power grabs everywhere you look. -
probably said more than was needed there but - YES - these are new types of countermeasures and are not the same as the live attenuated virus type vaccines you’d get for annual flu or what have you
the only exception i know of - is the chinese developed injection
they aren’t using mrna based shots -
they’re using some type of more traditional LAV. type shot
the point is - there’s a lot of unknowns that accompany doing something for the first time - especially something as complex as fielding multiple mrna injections from multiple developers across such a wide array of specific populations -
this has never been done before
irrespective of what else people may disagree with - it’s really important to acknowledge that fact
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that’s right
they’ve been in development for a while
and the first one was SUPPOSED to have been fielded for hepatitis if i recall correctly
but once the billions on tax revenue and protection from liability was handed to the industry partners (some of which had revenue shortfalls to make up because of lawsuits) - they moved these shots to the front of the line - rushed them into use
That was the Trump admin of course
and the current president and his cabinet have just doubled down on the bad decision making
this is not how you handle a public health campaign -
i’m afraid the political class and other non-scientific stakeholders have just found the “crisis “ too good of an opportunity to waste
the response and scope of of government intervention and mishandling/opportunism has mutated far more quickly than the virus -
but - are we really surprised?
try not to let the rhetoric sink in and turn you against your neighbors - that’s about all i can recommend at this point
the shots will change in nature as well
eventually digital identification and networking human beings into the Internet of Things will likely merge as well
you need to make some decisions on where your red lines are going to be -
It gets really interesting at the 2:00 mark:
Go eat your horse paste. Would you like some hay and a carrot to round out the meal?
My man... if the virus is named Covid 19, denoting the year it was discovered, and the resulting vaccines were developed and released less than a year later, and it hasn't even been a year since the release of the vaccines... pray tell, when did they do the long-term studies and where can I get that link?
TIA.
Wednesday, September 23, 2020
Fourth large-scale COVID-19 vaccine trial begins in the United States
Note that is September of 2020, over a full calendar year ago
"Another concern expressed by some is that the development and FDA review of the vaccines occurred too quickly for the vaccines to be adequately vetted. The development and review of these vaccines has been undeniably fast. The rapid development of the vaccines was possible due to the nature of mRNA vaccine production and the many years of preclinical and clinical development. All that is required for development is knowledge of the sequence of the antigen, in this case, the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. Following their development, these vaccines underwent the same FDA review steps that all drugs are required to go through. The review process was quicker than normal due to the urgency of this pandemic. No steps were omitted in this process.
They'll just change the definition of "long term study"... just like they changed the definition of "vaccine"
So, where is the FDA approval and why the need for the EUA if the studies were settled before the vax was developed?
This FDA doc says that testing for Comirnaty won't conclude until 2024
https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download
... That makes you a lab rat, Hoss.
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