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CELTICAT said:
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So who here hates the unvaccinated? I keep seeing celebrities like here, saying awful things about the unvaccinated. My wife is a fed gov employee, and despite putting in for her exemption, faces a November 9 insubordination disciplinary proceeding, which they have promised will result in termination.

Meanwhile the Moderna shot killed my mother dead in about 12 days. Miscarriages are through the roof, and Delta only appeared when widespread vaccinating was happening, and is now receding now that vaccinations have plateaued. Of course giving yourself a huge shot of spike protein would turn you into a walking Covid monster. But it's the unvaxxed ruining everything, right?

Any one else facing uncertainty due to Biden's illegal mandate?
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There was a thread re: the unvaxxed on a musician's site called The Gear Page. Basically, EVERYONE on there wants to exclude the unvaxxed from playing live music (this site is more liberal than the Huff Po).

I posted that I'm unvaxxed, not getting the vaxx, and I play in 3 different bands.

Their heads exploded and the mods had to remove the thread lol.
 
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Today, it's OAN reporting, tomorrow it will be everyone forced to adimt it.
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If you want accurate Covid news, you ABSOLUTELY have to go to Oann and Newsmax or someone outside the US like Reuters, etc.

MSM isnt even reporting the Ivermectin success in India, which can easily be seen here:

www.worldometers.info

COVID Live Update: 256,911,297 Cases and 5,154,575 Deaths from the Coronavirus - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info

India, with its super dense population, now only ranks 123rd in deaths per million population... and they're only 5% vaxxed.

Why? The govt made the decision early this year to put EVERYONE on Ivermectin... which the liberals scoff at as "horse medicine".

Well, evidently Indian politicians are smarting than liberals... but we already knew that...
 
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But they aren't radical.

You just have no clue whatsoever what the center is and where it should be.
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I almost believed you when you said you weren’t a conservative. And then, you suggest OANN as some kind of objective news source.

That would be like me saying CNN and MSNBC are objective news sources.

If OANN is the center, does that make Fox left-leaning? Lol.
 
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I almost believed you when you said you weren’t a conservative. And then, you suggest OANN as some kind of objective news source.

That would be like me saying CNN and MSNBC are objective news sources.

If OANN is the center, does that make Fox left-leaning? Lol.
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The they I was referring to was Fox and Tucker, sorry wasn't clear.

Fox is definitely right of center and Tucker is an opinion guy whose opinions are genuinely held. OANN and NewsMax are much further right and much lower budget, capitalizing on a niche that's left untapped outside of Breightbart and Youtube.

None of that precludes them from actually being "right."
 
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P19978 said:
If you want accurate Covid news, you ABSOLUTELY have to go to Oann and Newsmax or someone outside the US like Reuters, etc.
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SDC8888 said:
The they I was referring to was Fox and Tucker, sorry wasn't clear.

Fox is definitely right of center and Tucker is an opinion guy whose opinions are genuinely held. OANN and NewsMax are much further right and much lower budget, capitalizing on a niche that's left untapped outside of Breightbart and Youtube.

None of that precludes them from actually being "right."
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Gotcha.

Here are some bias ratings for cable news channels (That stuff is all cancer and shouldn’t be watched by educated people on both sides):

Mainstream cable news:

Fox: (Right bias, medium credibility) https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/?amp=1

MSNBC: (Left bias, medium credibility)

CNN: (Left bias, medium credibility)

CNBC: (Left-center bias, credible)

Fox Business: (Right-center bias, credible)


The above networks have a partisan editorial bias and further their biases through selective omission. The business channels are more balanced than their “news” counterparts.

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Now, onto crazy town aka “alternative” media. This **** is for people who need their biases confirmed and will believe anything as long as it’s ideologically comfortable.

I couldn’t find any left-wing equivalents with their own broadcast networks that don’t fall into the mainstream category. The closest i found was those jabronis the Young Turks. (Extreme left, medium-low credibility)

Newsmax: (Extreme right, low credibility)

OANN: (Extreme right, not credible, propensity for reporting falsities/propaganda)
 
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This is the bizarre part: more people have now died in 2021 WITH A VAXX than in 2020 WITHOUT A VAXX.

So... the vaxx helped... how????
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Don't worry the stupid are going to double down on the boosters.

A lot vaxxers going to be Darwin Award winners with that booster.
 
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MegaBlue05 said:
Gotcha.

Here are some bias ratings for cable news channels (That stuff is all cancer and shouldn’t be watched by educated people on both sides):

Mainstream cable news:

Fox: (Right bias, medium credibility) https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/?amp=1

MSNBC: (Left bias, medium credibility)

CNN: (Left bias, medium credibility)

CNBC: (Left-center bias, credible)

Fox Business: (Right-center bias, credible)


The above networks have a partisan editorial bias and further their biases through selective omission. The business channels are more balanced than their “news” counterparts.

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Now, onto crazy town aka “alternative” media. This **** is for people who need their biases confirmed and will believe anything as long as it’s ideologically comfortable.

I couldn’t find any left-wing equivalents with their own broadcast networks that don’t fall into the mainstream category. The closest i found was those jabronis the Young Turks. (Extreme left, medium-low credibility)

Newsmax: (Extreme right, low credibility)

OANN: (Extreme right, not credible, propensity for reporting falsities/propaganda)
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So Google gives Oann and Newsmax "low credibility" ratings?

Lololololololololololololololololo.

You'd have been better using Huff Po as your source lol.
 
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P19978 said:
So Google gives Oann and Newsmax "low credibility" ratings?

Lololololololololololololololololo.

You'd have been better using Huff Po as your source lol.
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Try again, sir.

Goggle was simply the search engine the linked URLs were copied from. There’s several media bias checkers available for you to use. All of them state Fox/CNN/MSNBC aka mainstream media have partisan biases and somewhat credible. They’ll also tell you OANN and Newsmax is propaganda for gullible boomers. Fits you like a glove, dawg.
 
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MegaBlue05 said:
Try again, sir.

Goggle was simply the search engine the linked URLs were copied from. There’s several media bias checkers available for you to use. All of them state Fox/CNN/MSNBC aka mainstream media have partisan biases and somewhat credible. They’ll also tell you OANN and Newsmax is propaganda for gullible boomers. Fits you like a glove, dawg.
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As expected.

Good luck in life.
 
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I told you 3-4 months ago that "vaccine" efficacy was going to end up being far less than they were claiming.

Today, it's OAN reporting, tomorrow it will be everyone forced to adimt it.
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BMJ also alluded to this around Nov19

No idea what degree of immunity the shots will confer - expected that an ongoing series of “boosters” would be needed past the initial injections

Vaccines aren’t silver bullets - and they really are just one platform or countermeasure among MANY that should be used at various times (diet / exercise / environmental health etc)

The dialogue has turned into a bizarre characture (sp?) of meaningful conversation -

Notice the experimental ebola vaccines that china , russia and others were fielding in central africa - didn’t. get nearly as much attention (same deal - no human studies...emergency authorization)

And if you’re really interested in vaccine history it pays to look into what happened in india and
africa with the Gates foundation backed vaccines - the data are out there and it was criminal

here’s a 2019 article from ABC news where they note that the polio vaccines (in africa) - were causing more cases of polio than the wild virus that the shots we’re supposed to counter

my point in posting this is just to note the simple fact that sometimes even traditional vaccines - are ineffective OR Harmful

finally - i’ve added an article from 2000 showing where the ramp up to fielding experiential ebola vaccines (no human trials) was documented -

this article only mentions one industry leaders offering (Merc i think) - eventually there there multiple experimental vaccines from the US, China and Russia all being fielded throughout central africa

African Ebola Vaccines - Emergency Use


somewhere around 2016 or so the world witnessed the largest outbreak of ebola in history - in the same region where these shots were being administered haphazardly and without apparent long term concern for the people that live there

Shortly after that we had the “second largest outbreak of ebola” i’m human history - i THINK roughly around 2018-2019

personally i believe the USAMRID facilities and military personnel coupled with the untested vaccines absolutely exacerbated the situation and worsened the outbreak -

i can find more articles on each of these data points and may post them tonight. -

It just seems to be a major campaign that 99% of the people around you — never heard of
 
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P19978 said:
So Google gives Oann and Newsmax "low credibility" ratings?

Lololololololololololololololololo.

You'd have been better using Huff Po as your source lol.
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It’s not Google doing the rating. Congrats on proving you can't read.
 
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Several observations.
- If you go to Google and search on anything about COVID, and then go to an unfiltered search engine and do the same you get drastically different results. That's very scary to me.
- There are drastically different levels of risk of death from COVID between my 13 year old daughter and my 82 year old father. For the government to look at them both equally and dictate they both are REQUIRED to get it is treasonous in my opinion.
- My father almost died from the vaccine. He had 2 strokes in succession after the vaccine and was ultimately completely cleared of any potential risk for another one (full body angiography which show no plaque or clotting) but was put on blood thinners because "the vaccine does have a tendency to cause clotting" per the cardiologist. My issue isn't that it almost killed him or that it wasn't hardly even acknowledged until after he had his second stroke for absolutely no reason. My issue is that even after all of that we were never offered a yellow card to log it against the vaccine. So even when a Dr has done everything they can to blame it on something else, but they can't find anything else and have to admit it was the vaccine, they still don't offer or log it against the vaccine so we have data to better understand the side effects. That's a huge issue as well.
- Decisions in the US are being made by a very small group of people that are turning a blind eye to studies around the world that are showing that there are other ways to approach or attack the virus without vaccine which also points to ulterior motives.

If you don't see these as reasons to challenge the need for the vaccine you are the definition of a sheep.
 
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MegaBlue05 said:
Gotcha.

Here are some bias ratings for cable news channels (That stuff is all cancer and shouldn’t be watched by educated people on both sides):

Mainstream cable news:

Fox: (Right bias, medium credibility) https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/?amp=1

MSNBC: (Left bias, medium credibility)

CNN: (Left bias, medium credibility)

CNBC: (Left-center bias, credible)

Fox Business: (Right-center bias, credible)


The above networks have a partisan editorial bias and further their biases through selective omission. The business channels are more balanced than their “news” counterparts.

——-

Now, onto crazy town aka “alternative” media. This **** is for people who need their biases confirmed and will believe anything as long as it’s ideologically comfortable.

I couldn’t find any left-wing equivalents with their own broadcast networks that don’t fall into the mainstream category. The closest i found was those jabronis the Young Turks. (Extreme left, medium-low credibility)

Newsmax: (Extreme right, low credibility)

OANN: (Extreme right, not credible, propensity for reporting falsities/propaganda)
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Ok, So who is making the call on what is considered "Credible" How is "level of credibility" (low, medium, etc.) determined? Are they relying on Snopes "fact checkers"? LOL.

CNN isn't just "left biased" it can be classified as extreme left just as OANN is getting the "extreme right" label. Some could challenge the "extreme right" label of Newsmax.
 
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Ok, So who is making the call on what is considered "Credible" How is "level of credibility" (low, medium, etc.) determined? Are they relying on Snopes "fact checkers"? LOL.

CNN isn't just "left biased" it can be classified as extreme left just as OANN is getting the "extreme right" label. Some could challenge the "extreme right" label of Newsmax.
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Snopes guy rapes his wife according to his wife. Wonder how he'd rate that info? Probably "false"
 
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MegaBlue05 said:
Try again, sir.

Goggle was simply the search engine the linked URLs were copied from. There’s several media bias checkers available for you to use. All of them state Fox/CNN/MSNBC aka mainstream media have partisan biases and somewhat credible. They’ll also tell you OANN and Newsmax is propaganda for gullible boomers. Fits you like a glove, dawg.
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Did you read under their funding that a major source of their revenue is from GOOGLE ADSENSE"
 
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Several observations.
- If you go to Google and search on anything about COVID, and then go to an unfiltered search engine and do the same you get drastically different results. That's very scary to me.
- There are drastically different levels of risk of death from COVID between my 13 year old daughter and my 82 year old father. For the government to look at them both equally and dictate they both are REQUIRED to get it is treasonous in my opinion.

- Decisions in the US are being made by a very small group of people that are turning a blind eye to studies around the world that are showing that there are other ways to approach or attack the virus without vaccine which also points to ulterior motives.

If you don't see these as reasons to challenge the need for the vaccine you are the definition of a sheep.
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They don't get it... and they never will. We're all wasting our breathe unfortunately.
 
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SDC8888 said:
It will be really something else for future historians to figure out just how the greatest country in the history of history ended up with so many incompetent and utterly mediocre people in positions of consequence.
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