Covid shot... Experience

CatsFanGG24

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Sure thing bud. And I am going to assume most people don’t know the difference between convalescent plasma and plasma and how each is used.

Thus, a bunch of nuts created social media postings that misled and said that the Red Cross isn’t accepting plasma from vaccinated people in an attempt to dissuade people from vaccinating.

But yeah, let’s just assume you are just a scientist educating us in a good faith effort about the topic.
You don’t have to assume. Just read.

rona plasma donation = rona plasma donation

Maybe I should’ve put SARS Cov-2 coronavirus 19 convalescent plasma donations instead of rona plasma donations...didn’t know that would be such a struggle.

But Again, thanks for helping prove my point: “The American Red Cross’ current policy is to only accept convalescent plasma donations from people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have not had the vaccine.”

And to your first point - I would assume avid blood donors would know the difference. I also think that if they were donating for C19 plasma, they should know the vax could jeopardize that particular plasma donation.
 

JDHoss

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When the Covid vaccines were announced, I was pretty sure we'd need to get one every year. I get a flu shot every year as well. I also got a shingles shot last year. When I (hopefully) turn 65, I'll get a pneumonia shot, as recommended by my doctor. I get my Tdap shot updated as needed. None of it is a big deal for me to do. I don't get the anti-vaxxers, but I actually know a couple of them and they're basically good guys, but way out there on certain things (besides vaccinations) and I put them maybe one step ahead of the flat earthers.
 

Lord Z

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Trumps election did something. I guess before they managed to keep it hidden out of shame or something but now these lunatics just love to shout out and advertise their raving ignorance. It's like Trump turned them all into morono-marketers selling ginsu knives at the top of their lungs. Like flipping the switch to the Christmas lights Trump got them all blinking and now you can't shut them up. They are so amazingly eager to share just how stupid and gullible they are?
 
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The vaccine has a larger non neutralizing to neutralizing ratio of antibodies vs natural infection. This is why they do not want Corona plasma from a prior infected who is then vaxed. “the ratio of binding to neutralizing antibodies after vaccination was greater than that after natural infection and, at the monoclonal level, we found that the majority of vaccine-induced antibodies did not have neutralizing activity.”


A second dose on a previously infected individual provides no benefit, and even messes with their prior cellular immunity.




And finally, from the Reuters Red Cross article proving me “wrong”: “The American Red Cross’ current policy is to only accept convalescent plasma donations from people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have not had the vaccine.”

This isn’t anti-vax, this is pro people knowing information if they have been naturally infected. I support vax for adults not previously infected and even potentially the very elderly even if previously infected.

Real shame you try to suppress the science, say I fell for a whack job conspiracy when what I said is factually accurate and is stated in the article that was trying to prove me wrong and all other statements I’ve made supporting by science.


you were spreading debunked fake news.

idiots who spread debunked fake news never admit they are wrong. You are no different.

we know your type.
 

CatsFanGG24

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you were spreading debunked fake news.

idiots who spread debunked fake news never admit they are wrong. You are no different.

we know your type.
Name the fake news please. Copy what I said and show where it’s false. I’ll retract if you can
 

vhcat70

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Nurse at a major Lou hospital told us their management is only counting the workers vaxed for 6 months...then they will lose their status and have to be shot up again.

good luck
That's fine, but who says the distributors of the vaccines would give you a 3rd one? I haven't heard they would. Also, what's the science that says protection ends 6 months after 2nd shot? Answer: there isn't any.
 
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vhcat70

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I had the Covid late January and planned my shots to extend to the end of the year, essentially.

Research I trust indicated a Covid diagnoses in January would cover me for 4 months, and I had my second Pfizer poke, today.

That Moderna is the ****, though.

Some studies show Moderna with just the first poke at 90 percent effective, and Pfizer at only 50 percent effective (with one shot).

Both M and Pf are like 94/95 percent after two shots.
94/95 for getting virus at all. Like 99.99 against serious illness.
 

vhcat70

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The sooner COVID is allowed to thin the herd on the anti vaxxers the better. Remove all restrictions and let the vaccinated thrive and allow natural selection to do its thing to the foolish. That's natures way and it always has been. We must allow stupid people to self-select themselves out so that the stronger smarter vaccinated people may flourish. Leave them to their doom. Dying of stupid is perfectly appropriate in this situation and it is how nature intended it.
All are Darwin Award candidates.
 

CatsFanGG24

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I’m done communicating with you. You either enjoy lying or are too dumb to understand what you perpetuated. I’ll keep you in my prayers
Take the L - and next time don’t misrepresent my actual text to try to push this bs lie.
 
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CatsFanGG24

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That's fine, but who says the distributors of the vaccines would give you a 3rd one? I haven't heard they would. Also, what's the science that says protection ends 6 months after 2nd shot? Answer: there isn't any.
I agree with you - seems like bad policy w/out much science behind it. That’s my worry w/booster push that may be unnecessary.
 

CatsFanGG24

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nope. You’re trying to backtrack and change what you said. You thought you were speaking in your echo chamber of lunacy and got caught.
Nope, what I said is clearly still on the page. Not sure why you think it has changed.

What you did was piggy back off someone who missed my mention of Corona plasma - who even in his post mentioned “unless you’re talking c19 convalescent plasma” and then running with it...acting as if I didn’t specifically mention rona plasma donation. Just read for yourself next time so you don’t have to dig out of someone else’s hole.
 
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Ron Mehico

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nope. You’re trying to backtrack and change what you said. You thought you were speaking in your echo chamber of lunacy and got caught.
I missed it, what are you arguing about? What did he say that was wrong? Just quote it, shouldn’t be that hard.
 

BMoore2

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How are there still people who are anti-vaccine? I don’t get it. I get being anti-vaccine in general (I don’t agree with it, but I get it), but the COVID vaccines have faced intense scrutiny. There were a couple of issues with the Johnson and Johnson one, for example, and they temporarily paused them.
It’s sorta just the fact that no matter what happens, people who are politically dug in on this issue will not change their minds, no matter what. It’s kind of sad. 600k people have died, we’ve had our lifestyles altered drastically for over a year, and we’re so close to the finish line, but these selfish jerks just refuse to do the right thing. Embarrassing.
One positive thing I see, though, is that a lot of people who last year, at this time, still probably thought this thing was a hoax, are coming around, and there’s a lot less division. If we could just get the last few stubborn people to wake up..
 

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You don’t have to assume. Just read.

rona plasma donation = rona plasma donation

Maybe I should’ve put SARS Cov-2 coronavirus 19 convalescent plasma donations instead of rona plasma donations...didn’t know that would be such a struggle.

But Again, thanks for helping prove my point: “The American Red Cross’ current policy is to only accept convalescent plasma donations from people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have not had the vaccine.”

And to your first point - I would assume avid blood donors would know the difference. I also think that if they were donating for C19 plasma, they should know the vax could jeopardize that particular plasma donation.
Don’t you think it’s important to be correct? Don’t you think this is a big enough deal that it’s important not to do things that harm the cause of getting us past this crap?
 
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CatsFanGG24

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Don’t you think it’s important to be correct? Don’t you think this is a big enough deal that it’s important not to do things that harm the cause of getting us past this crap?
kiss my ***. I do think it’s important to be correct, so next time before your lecture, make sure you are correct.



“COVID-19 Vaccine and Convalescent Plasma Donor Eligibility Information
Individuals who have received a COVID-19 vaccine are not able to donate convalescent plasma with the Red Cross.”

I am starting to wonder if you all are stupid and purposefully ignoring “rona plasma donations” or if this is some sort of bad game of telephone where the first guy screwed it up and now everyone follows the lead.
 
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Lol. The lady runs the unit. What I was told was accurate. I do hope they come to their senses and update the policy...but as of now, after 6 months they aren’t safe from having to quarantine after contacts and all the hassle from prior to vax.
Might want to consider going to a different hospital in the future then
 

CatsFanGG24

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Might want to consider going to a different hospital in the future then
Not my hospital. It’s bad policy, it’s not practical or based in science of the vaccines...but it’s their first default policy and it’s a major hosp system. 180 days.

I would hope they change it for their own sake
 

WildcatofNati

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How are there still people who are anti-vaccine? I don’t get it. I get being anti-vaccine in general (I don’t agree with it, but I get it), but the COVID vaccines have faced intense scrutiny. There were a couple of issues with the Johnson and Johnson one, for example, and they temporarily paused them.
It’s sorta just the fact that no matter what happens, people who are politically dug in on this issue will not change their minds, no matter what. It’s kind of sad. 600k people have died, we’ve had our lifestyles altered drastically for over a year, and we’re so close to the finish line, but these selfish jerks just refuse to do the right thing. Embarrassing.
One positive thing I see, though, is that a lot of people who last year, at this time, still probably thought this thing was a hoax, are coming around, and there’s a lot less division. If we could just get the last few stubborn people to wake up..
The only reason that we had "our lifestyles altered dramatically" is because of bed wetters. It shouldn't have happened, and I predict that we'll never let it happen again. The selfish jerks are those who demanded that other people live their lives in subject to their cowardice and stupidity.
 

sluggercatfan

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How did your covid shot go? I had the Johnson & Johnson shot, so I only have to have one shot. I didn't sleep great after the shot and was really tired the next day. I had some cold like symptoms 2 days later. I had no pain. The most painful shot I've ever had other than the smallpox shot, which branded some us for life in the sixties and early seventies, was shingrix.


I am not an anti-vaxxer. Shoot me up.
All youall that have had the shot, take a quarter and place in on the arm where the shot was given and see if it dosent stick like a magnet to your arm!
 
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The-Hack

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All youall that have had the shot, take a quarter and place in on the arm where the shot was given and see if it dosent stick like a magnet to your arm!
Hey, I heard that small magnets stick, just an hour ago at a restaurant. Wish I had a magnet; just did a quarter and it fell off, normally.

Took my.second shot 32 hours, ago.

I’m hoping it augments my magnetic personality!
 
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The only reason that we had "our lifestyles altered dramatically" is because of bed wetters. It shouldn't have happened, and I predict that we'll never let it happen again. The selfish jerks are those who demanded that other people live their lives in subject to their cowardice and stupidity.
Nearly 604,000 people have died from COVID. It was the #3 leading cause of death in the USA last year, only surpassed by heart disease and cancer.
 

The-Hack

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All youall that have had the shot, take a quarter and place in on the arm where the shot was given and see if it dosent stick like a magnet to your arm!

And while this was posted in jest:

“The only US coin that contained enough iron to be magnetic was the 1943 steel cent. US nickels have contained just 25% nickel since 1866 (with the exception of the 1942–45 war nickels that had no nickel at all.) They do not contain enough nickel to be attracted to a magnet.”

So I used a small magnet, being fresh out of 1943 steel pennies. The only way I could get it to stick to the injection site was by wrapping my bandaid around it.
 

vhcat70

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How are there still people who are anti-vaccine? I don’t get it. I get being anti-vaccine in general (I don’t agree with it, but I get it), but the COVID vaccines have faced intense scrutiny. There were a couple of issues with the Johnson and Johnson one, for example, and they temporarily paused them.
It’s sorta just the fact that no matter what happens, people who are politically dug in on this issue will not change their minds, no matter what. It’s kind of sad. 600k people have died, we’ve had our lifestyles altered drastically for over a year, and we’re so close to the finish line, but these selfish jerks just refuse to do the right thing. Embarrassing.
One positive thing I see, though, is that a lot of people who last year, at this time, still probably thought this thing was a hoax, are coming around, and there’s a lot less division. If we could just get the last few stubborn people to wake up..
I know 5 people 72-78 that won't get it, 4 are women. One claims a medical reason.
 
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JDHoss

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I know 5 people 72-78 that won't get it, 4 are women. One claims a medical reason.
Out of all the people I used to work with and still remain in contact with, there are three who haven't taken it. Two of them came as no surprise because they are conspiracy nut jobs and I wouldn't have expected any less from them. I was also pleasantly surprised that two who I would have considered betting money on not to get it, actually got it.
 

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I find it funny that people who want to force me to get vaccinated to protect them are also the same people who want to force me to give up all of my guns so I can't protect myself. So your safety and protection matters but mine doesn't?

Of course they are also the ones who shout that people should get vaccinated so innocent people won't die from their actions but then support abortion so......
And tell you not to deny science while denying our chromosomes determines our sex.
 
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And tell you not to deny science while denying our chromosomes determines our sex.

I don't believe in all the transgender nonsense, abortion on demand, banning of guns, etc. But I do think you should have to get the vaccine. It's super safe and it will make a significant difference in terms of eradicating this Chinese-made disease. My 12-year old got the vaccine; certainly you adults shouldn't be too scared to do the same.
 
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I tell you what, I lost my father in law last Friday from Covid, he was only 56. I'd give anything if he had been vaccinated, but he wouldn't have it. He was high risk with other issues, and it breaks my heart that he's gone. I know his family and grandkids will sorely miss him. Wonderful feller. I really wish he would have got the vaccine, but we just disagreed on it. I'll sure miss him.
 

JDHoss

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I tell you what, I lost my father in law last Friday from Covid, he was only 56. I'd give anything if he had been vaccinated, but he wouldn't have it. He was high risk with other issues, and it breaks my heart that he's gone. I know his family and grandkids will sorely miss him. Wonderful feller. I really wish he would have got the vaccine, but we just disagreed on it. I'll sure miss him.
Sorry for your loss. My in-laws, who are usually pretty stubborn about things like this, were in line to get theirs ASAP after several friends got Covid-19, including their next door neighbor, who died.
 
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I tell you what, I lost my father in law last Friday from Covid, he was only 56. I'd give anything if he had been vaccinated, but he wouldn't have it. He was high risk with other issues, and it breaks my heart that he's gone. I know his family and grandkids will sorely miss him. Wonderful feller. I really wish he would have got the vaccine, but we just disagreed on it. I'll sure miss him.
Pulaski, I "mis-clicked" the laugh button instead of sad, so if you briefly saw that I am sorry. And of course I'm sorry for your loss.