Cowboy RTC and the next quad
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For sure. A bit witch-doctory for me in a lot of areas. But a lot of it makes a lot of sense.
Barwis I love because he actually tries to use "real" science.
Thanks for sharing. Some really interesting stuff said in this interview. I don’t know a lot about training or the human body, but my wife is a PT and the stuff he said about needing to put in additional work on muscles your chosen sport DOESN’T use is apparently very true. It’s also something even high-level athletes don’t always do to the degree they need to.
Sounds like Coleman Scott is now coaching at Edmond North’s wrestling club. Thought he ended up at Ohio State wrestling club?
His wife said he is going to help out with the club when he is town and has time. Sounds like his family didn't move.
In all honesty, Edmond North will be fire. Also, we may not get any of their recruits
No way that happens. It's still oklahoma state. And you just got Routledge.
If Coleman Scott influences kids to not go to OK State because of personal feelings, that would make him a bad coach. However, I do not believe he is that type person. And will do what's best for the kids he coaches.
If you watch Coleman's interview from last week-ish with Intermat he puts out zero bad vibes towards OSU
I say this many times but regardless of how Coleman actually feels about Oklahoma State, someone who is being trusted to be the steward of a kids future that lets personal fandom, vendettas and biases influence and limit a kids option should not be in that position and unfortunately, far too many are. Imagine a kid really fitting a school like a glove academically, socially, geographically, as a wrestler etc but you don't like that school for XYZ reason and will try to tell the kid to go to a bad fit .
I say that to say I don't believe CS is that kind of person at all
I say that to say I don't believe CS is that kind of person at all
I don't think the issue is Coleman pushing kids away from OSU. I think the concern would be he is going to obviously push them to wherever he is coaching ie Ohio State. That being said, I can't imagine Coleman Scott will be helping at Edmond North very long. Guy is going to be a HC somewhere soon.
Coleman is only coaching there 1 day a week (per the flier anyway). And even if Coleman "pushed" kids to tOSU - who's to say they would go and if tOSU even wants them? Tan Tom does a great job recruiting, he doesn't need Coleman for that. He doesn't "need" Edmond North kids.
And guess what? Neither does Okstate now. You're still going to get all the best Oklahoma kids, period. But DT is going to have his pick of the litter and be in every battle for the top 10-20 pfp kids.
And like what was said earlier, Coleman doesn't have anything against Okstate. The rumors are what hurt him. And if he does truly file suit, he already knows who started those rumors and it wasn't anyone from Okstate. Plus, John wouldn't put up with that.
I think Ohio State will be arguably the biggest casualty of DT -> Ok State on the trail. He'll still get his top kids but probably not in the droves he has before in my opinion.
Edmond North is arguably the top wrestling school in Oklahoma so yes, we do need their recruits. Everything I know about Coleman tells me he would not steer anyone away from Oklahoma State. He is disappointed but not vindictive. He is a class act.
I disagree. The program that will suffer the most with DT at OSU is Iowa. DT brings star power into the recruiting game, and the most susceptible program to a new recruiting mecca is Iowa. Tan Tom has his niche and DT will pressure that niche but Tom is very good in his lane. Tom & Terry need to reassert themselves as the faces of their program, but even then, it will be difficult to do that as 56 year olds against a 34 year old Taylor.
To be honest, every program will feel some pressure with a new guy in town. Some more than others. The good recruiters will still get their quota. The less good recruiters will not.
Just my pennies ...
Hope he has speedy recoveries, dude has really been through a ton. Wouldn't be shocked if he's waiting to be 100% before making a change (assuming it's happening)
Probably haven't had one since Ware. Derek White was pretty good though.
Ionel, I guess Teyon Ware but that is not the point. This past year Edmond North qualified 14 wrestlers for the 6A State Tournament. All 14 wrestlers placed and 10 of the 14 wrestlers were in the finals and 8 were State champions. That is domination. Kody Routledge was the champion at 157. Joseph Jeter was champion at 150 and will be a top recruit in 2-3 years.
Oklahoma State needs national champs not state champs. I'm sure DT is looking for potential NCs regardless of where they go to HS.
Thats just crazy talk!
At OSU, we really focus on guys that compete well in the state of Oklahoma, it's our main focus. Even John Smith had a roster and starting lineup that was dominated by Oklahoma state qualifiers.
Who's our "Myron Rodrick" to get a pipeline going to the Japanese wrestlers? I know the "Wrestling Junkies" on this board can help me with the specifics on how we came to getting those guys back in the day...
I feel bad that I can’t regurgitate this scenario. I spent pretty good amounts of time talking to Gerald Winnard and he told me how yo-yo and hatta got to Stillwater.
Coach Winnard passed recently and I can’t give him a shout.
And that was lazy recruiting by John.
I can promise you that DT will only be going after the top-tier national talent.
Obviously the roster will have more Oklahoma boys than any other. But don’t expect your starters to be Oklahoma heavy unless they truly are blue-chip.
You really can’t be this dense…or can you?
John didn’t have lineups rationed with Oklahoma kids. What I said was condescending in full.
This is a damn good hire for Penn State. When does OK State name their coach or a coach?
Jason has a start up business in Austin. Wish him the best. One of the more exciting wrestlers I've ever watched.
I predicted this the other day when word got out that he might stay in State College. He has the resume to be as influential if not more so than Gilman, and lives the life of a mat warrior. I am very, very excited by this.
He is going to teach some brutal top offense to Blaze, Forrest, and Bassett.
I thought Zain was retiring to move to NYC to work on wall street?I predicted this the other day when word got out that he might stay in State College. He has the resume to be as influential if not more so than Gilman, and lives the life of a mat warrior. I am very, very excited by this.
He is going to teach some brutal top offense to Blaze, Forrest, and Bassett.