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bac2therac

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Players deserve all the credit in the world for not giving up like a lot of us did. Look it was a terribly played and coached football game on both sides. Defense was nonexistant. They took advantages of a complete meltdown by Indiana on three consecutive turnovers and won an improbable game. Indiana was completely gassed at the end and we bullied our way all over them late.

So major kudos to the players. Once again the message board posters made to look like COMPLETE FOOLS me included with premature calls. Have to give credit to Flood. You are judged by wins and losses and he won, if the team played well and lost it would have meant nothing so likewise a win is a win is a win. You take it and run. The bowl hope is still alive and Flood is still alive...this was a must win and he had to win it. I am still not convinced he is the answer and I still feel Rossi needs to go but that does not matter. There are many issues to work on but its all about winning. Rutgers won today and Flood still keeping his head above water. Winning counts.
 

ru66

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you better email julie about your opinion --she'll laugh her a$$ off
 
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Instead of flaming, are Floodies capable of independent thought? Everything bac says what right. It was great for the players but a 55-52 win against Indiana isn't a sign of a good team.
 

OldManRiver1

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I'm starting to have less respect for you bac...how could you not giv credit to the coaches for keeping the kids focused.
I think your letting your blind hatred misguide you...no?
Why not congrats all around?
 
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ru66

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please stop your floodie bs, you sound like more baby not getting her pacifier
 

bac2therac

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I'm starting to have less respect for you bac...how could you not giv credit to the coaches for keeping the kids focused.
I think your letting your blind hatred misguide you...no?
Why not congrats all around?


what part are you missing when I said...have to give credit to Flood
 

Knight Shift

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bac, I'll give you credit for your post and crediting Flood. You are off base on Rossi. It's obvious we have personnel issues in the secondary, and they came back strong in the second half. I'm not saying Ross is Narduzzi, but he is not awful. How can you slag him after last week?
 
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Because we still cannot defend the offense we saw today that we saw against Houston two years ago. Our defense never recovered. Last week was nice, but realistically it was an outlier.
 

bac2therac

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52 points is pretty inexcusable and the 3rd quarter wasn't even over. Indiana was very one dimensional. That blown punt snap was key and then Indy telegraphed two passes to RU and then all of a sudden got conservative on offense. RU seemed to play better D late while Indy was gassed on their end but I just do not get warm fuzzies over stopping them late after giving up so many points. That's my issue here. There are too many times where the D really just gets obliterated. I know MSU was a superlative performances but what happened today. I still think he is not our answers and if Flood comes back somehow at 6-6 I want someone else that can get to work right away.
 

Knightmoves

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52 points is pretty inexcusable and the 3rd quarter wasn't even over. Indiana was very one dimensional. That blown punt snap was key and then Indy telegraphed two passes to RU and then all of a sudden got conservative on offense. RU seemed to play better D late while Indy was gassed on their end but I just do not get warm fuzzies over stopping them late after giving up so many points. That's my issue here. There are too many times where the D really just gets obliterated. I know MSU was a superlative performances but what happened today. I still think he is not our answers and if Flood comes back somehow at 6-6 I want someone else that can get to work right away.

So much for celebrating the come from behind victory eh ?
 

T2Kplus10

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Players deserve all the credit in the world for not giving up like a lot of us did. Look it was a terribly played and coached football game on both sides. Defense was nonexistant. They took advantages of a complete meltdown by Indiana on three consecutive turnovers and won an improbable game. Indiana was completely gassed at the end and we bullied our way all over them late.

So major kudos to the players. Once again the message board posters made to look like COMPLETE FOOLS me included with premature calls. Have to give credit to Flood. You are judged by wins and losses and he won, if the team played well and lost it would have meant nothing so likewise a win is a win is a win. You take it and run. The bowl hope is still alive and Flood is still alive...this was a must win and he had to win it. I am still not convinced he is the answer and I still feel Rossi needs to go but that does not matter. There are many issues to work on but its all about winning. Rutgers won today and Flood still keeping his head above water. Winning counts.
Flood and Rossi still need to go, no question! A mediocre team beating another mediocre team isn't a big deal.
 

Crazed_RU

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I have to say this is the most lame *** "giving credit" thread I've ever seen. Why qualify everything single thing that broke right for RU today. Telegraphed passes, flubbed punt snap blah, blah, blah - it's part of the game. Just enjoy a friggin awesome win and save the effing whining about Flood for another day.
 

Blitz8RU

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Flood should still be fired. This is Maryland 2014 or USF 2013 again. We are now celebrating beating a doormat by the skin off our teeth while giving up 52 pts. Some of you are so easy to please. This complacency is just sad and pathetic. :flush:
 

RUBOB72

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You're gonna **** if we win 3 more and guess what...it's very possible...Pathetic negative fans
 

MADHAT1

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Instead of flaming, are Floodies capable of independent thought? Everything bac says what right. It was great for the players but a 55-52 win against Indiana isn't a sign of a good team.
Rutgers won and should have made all RU fans proud of the way the team never gave up and won after falling far behind.
Just be happy with the win and let your so called Floodies and other RU fans savor the victory instead of reading a whine about the caliber of team RU beat.
 
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bac2therac

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beating Indiana is who Flood should be beating. They are the worst program in the Big 10. He won today and it was a must win. Mission accomplished. The win was dramatic and exciting but its not something you should be handing out extension for. But he won so Im not going to knock him tonight
 
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RUJMM78

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The reactions on this board are to be expected after a roller coaster type game with no defense.I don't doubt for a minute that some Rutgers fans changed channels after the third quarter.To their credit the Rutgers players had a incredible fourth quarter to pull out the game with five seconds remaining.The passion of fans on this board should be commended rather than criticized .All fans get emotional during a game including getting upset when the team is performing so bad .The nature of sports is that the ebb and flow of the game can change quickly and the team leading the game by a wide margin sometimes fails to react in time.
 

needmorecowbell

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Instead of flaming, are Floodies capable of independent thought? Everything bac says what right. It was great for the players but a 55-52 win against Indiana isn't a sign of a good team.
Indiana is a good team. On their homecoming and with Sudfield as the starter. Just as OSU.
 

BigLou

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what part are you missing when I said...have to give credit to Flood

Give me a break Bac. Before you gave Flood credit you first gave the players credit twice and said it was a terribly coached game. The went on to say that Flood's head is still above water. Talk about damning with faint praise.
This is the team's 2nd 25 point road come back I its last 3 road games. These wins happen because the players believe in the coaching staff.
Flood does not need you giving him credit, especially when you don't mean it.
 

bac2therac

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not sure what you want me to say. I think long term he is not the answer but that's my personal opinion. Tonight was a win so not going down that road after the win. A comeback win over a program he should be beating does not change that. However as long as he can win the games he is suppose to win and get to 6-6 he will stay. Its about winning
 

rutgers4life11

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bac, I'll give you credit for your post and crediting Flood. You are off base on Rossi. It's obvious we have personnel issues in the secondary, and they came back strong in the second half. I'm not saying Ross is Narduzzi, but he is not awful. How can you slag him after last week?

this is sarcasm, right? two years in a row we're ranked near dead last in every defensive statistic, and people are off base on rossi? how many times do we have to see qbs, rbs and wrs break their school records and career highs? where you're off base is that we actually DO have talent on D ... it's just not used properly.

627 yards of offense.
 

Pritz99

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RUJMM78, better watch it. Making sense on this board can be hazardous. Let's just celebrate the kids gutting out an improbable win. Let's celebrate whatever the coaches contributed to this win.

Let's save for later in the week the debates on Flood, Laviano, Rossi, and probably Wilson and McDaniels. The 3-Back rotation. We should all be happy with the win (except for maybe those who think this means Flood is here to stay.)
 
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Indiana is a good team. On their homecoming and with Sudfield as the starter. Just as OSU.

Define good. What other teams are they realistically going to beat besides Purdue and Maryland? It is unlikely they will beat anyone with a winning record, which is what I would define as good.

This is the same time that got blown out by a team blown out by Temple.
 

KJRU

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Flood and Rossi still need to go, no question! A mediocre team beating another mediocre team isn't a big deal.
Lol, I watched the game with 8 people from other parts of the country, the comment I heard most throughout the game was, "wow, neither of these teams are any good". Beating Indiana 55-52 isn't a program defining moment and it shouldn't be a job saver for Flood either.
 

mildone_rivals

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I think some people are being much too harsh on the D considering everything that's happened. Yes, the D had some serious breakdowns today. The first quarter and the third quarter were pretty awful.

But in the second quarter, we actually slowed them up to a crawl and came back ending the half with the lead. And then we did it again in the fourth quarter. So yeah, while the D had awful moments in the game and we gave up way too many points, they also had really good moments.

And this was accomplished with most of our secondary two-deep in jail, our best D lineman out for the season, our second best D lineman playing hurt, our best linebacker playing hurt, one of our most promising true freshman cornerbacks out injured early in the game, etc. I could literally see our young D players improve during the course of the game.

I have never claimed that Flood and crew are the staff to lead RU to the promised land of being in the national championship conversation year in and year out. I don't think they are.

But how can anybody not credit the coaching staff with doing an amazing job of coaching up the young kids now playing D, when you can clearly see the improvement they've been making this season? Or look at the O line and it's improvement this season. Not coaching?

Some people are letting their hatred totally color their judgement here.
 
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satnom

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Head Coaches are judged on wins and losses. RU got the W which is a credit to Flood. Ugly wins are wins nonetheless. Winning programs get rid of mediocre coordinators all the time. Rossi is mediocre. The way our defense has performed in games against Wash St, PSU and Indy is on Rossi. All programs deal with youth and injuries. His best game was against MSU though. It finally showed he knew what blitzing and press coverage mean. We got the win when most of us mid way through the 3rd quarter thought it wasn't possible. 3-3 and onto home game with OSU.

GO RU
 

KJRU

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Head Coaches are judged on wins and losses. RU got the W which is a credit to Flood. Ugly wins are wins nonetheless. Winning programs get rid of mediocre coordinators all the time. Rossi is mediocre. The way our defense has performed in games against Wash St, PSU and Indy is on Rossi. All programs deal with youth and injuries. His best game was against MSU though. It finally showed he knew what blitzing and press coverage mean. We got the win when most of us mid way through the 3rd quarter thought it wasn't possible. 3-3 and onto home game with OSU.

GO RU
Actually winning teams get rid of mediocre head coaches...beating bad teams and getting crushed by good teams is a good example of mediocrity. How anyone can believe that Flood is a great coach with bad coordinators is beyond me.

You're right though, Flood needs great coordinators because he isn't a very good headcoach. The problem is great coordinators usually don't want to work for a mediocre headcoach, especially one that's close to being fired.
 
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csphi

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Actually winning teams get rid of mediocre coaches...beating bad teams and getting crushed by good teams is a good example of mediocrity. How anyone can believe that Flood is a great coach with bad coordinators is beyond me.
Why can't you just enjoy the win instead of repeating the same thing about Flood over and over and over again.