Creepy pic of Dumb Donald, the immigrant, the daughter, and the Pope

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And just think, if the kid was in the United States there's a good chance they wouldn't have insurance, Republicans would be fine with that, and he would end up not getting that transplant.

HOWEVER, since the patient is in Italy, and that nation has UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE at little or NO cost to its citizens, the patient is receiving care.

Your tweet is a major BACKFIRE! [thumbsup]
 

MountaineerWV

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Trump tried to axe obamacrap...

the swamp doesn't want change...

blame the swamp...

No, tell the President and his wife that. They are praising the life of a patient being saved.....in a country with universal health care.....something they want to get rid of......
 

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So a *ock sucker.as.yourself has a "PROBLEM" with immigrants. ...interesting. .you should let you homey Soros know of your "conflict of mentality "..:joy::scream::flushed:[pfftt]
Where in this thread do you see someone who has a ""PROBLEM" with immigrants" and where did the sudden gay sex talk come from? Are you sure you're on the right forum?
 

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And just think, if the kid was in the United States there's a good chance they wouldn't have insurance, Republicans would be fine with that, and he would end up not getting that transplant.

HOWEVER, since the patient is in Italy, and that nation has UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE at little or NO cost to its citizens, the patient is receiving care.

Your tweet is a major BACKFIRE! [thumbsup]
High taxes pays for health care ...its not free ......the people still pays ....
 

MountaineerWV

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High taxes pays for health care ...its not free ......the people still pays ....

Ok, well why don't the First Lady visit a sick AMERICAN child who is suffering from a disease but has the following situation:

1. Family cannot afford the insurance needed to continue treatments or procedures

or

2. Family loses home and all belongings attempting to pay for medical procedures



But nope, let's tweet about a health procedure in a European nation with universal health care.....[thumbsup].....and try to spin it as a positive.
 

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Ok, well why don't the First Lady visit a sick AMERICAN child who is suffering from a disease but has the following situation:

1. Family cannot afford the insurance needed to continue treatments or procedures

or

2. Family loses home and all belongings attempting to pay for medical procedures



But nope, let's tweet about a health procedure in a European nation with universal health care.....[thumbsup].....and try to spin it as a positive.
I'll play along.

How about the left give more than zero fvcks about the sickness and well being of Veterans?
 

MountaineerWV

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I'll play along.

How about the left give more than zero fvcks about the sickness and well being of Veterans?

Is that system screwed up? Sure it is. Along with our ENTIRE health care system. Profit vs. health....some things were just not meant to happen together.
 

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Ok, well why don't the First Lady visit a sick AMERICAN child who is suffering from a disease but has the following situation:

1. Family cannot afford the insurance needed to continue treatments or procedures

or

2. Family loses home and all belongings attempting to pay for medical procedures



But nope, let's tweet about a health procedure in a European nation with universal health care.....[thumbsup].....and try to spin it as a positive.
I agree whole heartedly that something has to be done about medical insurance, I'm not educated enough to say what ....my problem with a national health care is .....this ....a lot more people could have insurance if they would just carry coffee from home , have cable tv shut off .....miss a vacation or two, just examples of need vs. Want ..
Choices I have made ....insurance is a need a big freaking need .......but it's not up to me to pay for other people's choices .....we do need to take care of those who can't not won't..for the record I'm an independent,
 

MountaineerWV

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I agree whole heartedly that something has to be done about medical insurance, I'm not educated enough to say what ....my problem with a national health care is .....this ....a lot more people could have insurance if they would just carry coffee from home , have cable tv shut off .....miss a vacation or two, just examples of need vs. Want ..
Choices I have made ....insurance is a need a big freaking need .......but it's not up to me to pay for other people's choices .....we do need to take care of those who can't not won't..for the record I'm an independent,

I somewhat agree (not completely). But, have you ever seen the actual cost of a medical visit or a stay in the hospital? I can give you a personal experience of my own:

Daughter born, diagnosed as having a serious medical condition. Had to be flown to a Children's Hospital. Upon arriving, a team of doctors ran tests on my newborn. After several hours, figured out the problem. It was a misdiagnosis, nothing was wrong, hospital screwed up, but their screw up resulted in the doctors at the Children's hospital having to keep my child for 5 days. I get the bill........YIKES! It was $150,000......for the hospital's MISTAKE! But, thankfully I had insurance, but still had to pay my fair share of THEIR mistake.
 

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Ok, well why don't the First Lady visit a sick AMERICAN child who is suffering from a disease but has the following situation:

1. Family cannot afford the insurance needed to continue treatments or procedures

or

2. Family loses home and all belongings attempting to pay for medical procedures

That could never happen here in the US because we still have Obamacare........right ?
 

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Is that system screwed up? Sure it is. Along with our ENTIRE health care system. Profit vs. health....some things were just not meant to happen together.
I use that as a blue print for why not to allow govt to be involved in healthcare.
 

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Ain't this classic? Just a couple years ago, the Triple Prick was boasting about how he loved to suck Cock. Now signs off as RPJ and confesses to bragging that size is better for his lips. I had never engaged, so, I couldn't question his(?) preference for the size dick he wanted in his mouth.

Careful. The one some refer to as Doc is a lying son of a ***** also. He is also a coward. Wants to kick dogshit out of 76 year old man, but he just never got around to it. Haw, HAW, HAW. Classical of TRIPLE PRICK.
 

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HEALTH CARE at little or NO cost to its citizens,

Now this is interesting. Can you please link us to some actuarial tables on the Italian Universal health care system so we can see how they manage to provide superior health care to their citizens at " little to no costs" to anyone?
 

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I somewhat agree (not completely). But, have you ever seen the actual cost of a medical visit or a stay in the hospital? I can give you a personal experience of my own:

Daughter born, diagnosed as having a serious medical condition. Had to be flown to a Children's Hospital. Upon arriving, a team of doctors ran tests on my newborn. After several hours, figured out the problem. It was a misdiagnosis, nothing was wrong, hospital screwed up, but their screw up resulted in the doctors at the Children's hospital having to keep my child for 5 days. I get the bill........YIKES! It was $150,000......for the hospital's MISTAKE! But, thankfully I had insurance, but still had to pay my fair share of THEIR mistake.

Why didn't you just abort it?

Now before you go off on me...you do realize that just moments before that precious Child was born with the sad condition you just outlined in this post that it is perfectly legal in the country to do exactly that and you support it?

You of course fought for the Life of that Child, but imagine just two weeks prior to the condition you suddenly found you had to deal with in order to save your Child's Life... it would have been perfectly legal for you to have decided to kill her (just two weeks prior to her birth) and no one would bat an eyelash?

Are we sick or what.
 

MountaineerWV

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Why didn't you just abort it?


Are we sick or what.

No, just you........

So you are saying that if your wife was told 2 weeks before birth, or during birth, that giving birth would kill her....that you would continue? Because that's what you sound like.

And as for my child.......she was FINE. NOTHING was wrong with her. NOTHING at all. Did you just completely miss that part, or take it as an opportunity to get back on your soapbox about abortion laws even though you were already told by me in a previous thread that I do not support late-term abortion (unless medical extremes)????? Or because you are a douchebag?
 

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No, just you........

So you are saying that if your wife was told 2 weeks before birth, or during birth, that giving birth would kill her....that you would continue? Because that's what you sound like.

And as for my child.......she was FINE. NOTHING was wrong with her. NOTHING at all. Did you just completely miss that part, or take it as an opportunity to get back on your soapbox about abortion laws even though you were already told by me in a previous thread that I do not support late-term abortion (unless medical extremes)????? Or because you are a douchebag?

I simply asked if you realize it's legal to kill the kid at the time you decided instead to save it's Life?

You're arguing for the "Law"...do you support it or are you personally Pro-Life, but you don't want to "impose" your morality on the rest of society?

So then why are you arguing for Universal Health care? Isn't that "imposing" your sense of morality onto everyone else?

You don't think anyone should be left sick, and I don't think anyone should be left for dead.

So who's "morality" should we "impose"?

Mr. Man?

(I don't need to call[winking] names to make my points)
 

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So you are saying that if your wife was told 2 weeks before birth, or during birth, that giving birth would kill her....that you would continue?

If you can find them MountaineerWV, can you cite some statistics for me please on how often it is necessary to kill a Baby in order to save the Life of its Mother?

Just show me how often that procedure is used to save an expectant Mother's life, since this is your argument defending the majority of convenience abortions?
 

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I simply asked if you realize it's legal to kill the kid at the time you decided instead to save it's Life?

You're arguing for the "Law"...do you support it or are you personally Pro-Life, but you don't want to "impose" your morality on the rest of society?

So then why are you arguing for Universal Health care? Isn't that "imposing" your sense of morality onto everyone else?

You don't think anyone should be left sick, and I don't think anyone should be left for dead.

So who's "morality" should we "impose"?

Mr. Man?

(I don't need to call[winking] names to make my points)

So, it's my "morals" that costed me (and my insurance company) over $150,000???? Not the hospital who screwed up......but still didn't pay for their mistake? (there was no medical problem; it was a misdiagnosis....thus legal action could not taken place for malpractice)

And it's my "morals" for simply stating that our First Lady goes to a nation with universal health care and tweets about a procedure that many over here can not afford to have..........
 
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If you can find them MountaineerWV, can you cite some statistics for me please on how often it is necessary to kill a Baby in order to save the Life of its Mother?

Just show me how often that procedure is used to save an expectant Mother's life, since this is your argument defending the majority of convenience abortions?

OK, but they are probably "fake".........[eyeroll]


Chicago’s CBS 2 TV reported that ectopic pregnancies, where the fetus develops outside the uterus, affect 64,000 women a year, a figure that comes from the American Pregnancy Association. The National Institutes of Health says that ectopic pregnancies are “life-threatening” and that the pregnancy “cannot continue to birth.” The fetus also cannot survive.

A dated 1998 study — published by the International Family Planning Perspectives journal — reported that a 1987-1988 survey found that 2.8 percent of 1,773 women who had had an abortion that year said the reason for the abortion was risk to maternal health.


I also found, on an anti-abortion website, that 1% of abortions were performed "in order to save the mother's life".......
 

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I somewhat agree (not completely). But, have you ever seen the actual cost of a medical visit or a stay in the hospital? I can give you a personal experience of my own:

Daughter born, diagnosed as having a serious medical condition. Had to be flown to a Children's Hospital. Upon arriving, a team of doctors ran tests on my newborn. After several hours, figured out the problem. It was a misdiagnosis, nothing was wrong, hospital screwed up, but their screw up resulted in the doctors at the Children's hospital having to keep my child for 5 days. I get the bill........YIKES! It was $150,000......for the hospital's MISTAKE! But, thankfully I had insurance, but still had to pay my fair share of THEIR mistake.
Hospital should have been made to eat the bill ....& I'm glad your child is healthy , but it was not my fault & I don't want my taxes raised to cover the cost...
 

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Hospital should have been made to eat the bill ....& I'm glad your child is healthy , but it was not my fault & I don't want my taxes raised to cover the cost...

Well, let me ask this:

Should a person who does not have a license, or the capabilities to drive an automobile, pay taxes that are used for public roads and the treatment of them? Kind of the same thing, isn't it? Paying for something that you do not use.
 

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So, it's my "morals" that costed me (and my insurance company) over $150,000???? Not the hospital who screwed up......but still didn't pay for their mistake? (there was no medical problem; it was a misdiagnosis....thus legal action could not taken place for malpractice)

And it's my "morals" for simply stating that our First Lady goes to a nation with universal health care and tweets about a procedure that many over here can not afford to have..........

It's not an answer to my question based on your previous statement that eugenics at Planned Parenthood clinics is "legal".

Since you refused to condemn that, I figured at least you'd agree to condemn choice abortions, but no... you then counter and now claim it's really to "save the Life of the Mother"

Now you're justifying infanticide by admitting it happens in only 1% of Abortion cases (where the Baby has to be killed in order to save the Mother's Life)...which is something I never said I'm against as opposed to the rest of the 99.9% of choice abortions usually for the "convenience" of the Mother and not to save her Life.

So I have to conclude you favor killing a kid you either don't want or can't afford?

Or maybe you can explain for us MountaineerWV just where you do draw the line on this ongoing Holocaust you claim is "legal" and therefore I assume is OK?
 

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It's not an answer to my question based on your previous statement that eugenics at Planned Parenthood clinics is "legal".

Since you refused to condemn that, I figured at least you'd agree to condemn choice abortions, but no... you then counter and now claim it's really to "save the Life of the Mother"

Now you're justifying infanticide by admitting it happens in only 1% of Abortion cases (where the Baby has to be killed in order to save the Mother's Life)...which is something I never said I'm against as opposed to the rest of the 99.9% of choice abortions usually for the "convenience" of the Mother and not to save her Life.

So I have to conclude you favor killing a kid you either don't want or can't afford?

Or maybe you can explain for us MountaineerWV just where you do draw the line on this ongoing Holocaust you claim is "legal" and therefore I assume is OK?

Where do I draw the line? Well, as I have stated at nauseam, I do NOT support abortion just for the sake of getting rid of a baby. However, as of now, it's allowed and as much as I hate it (along with marijuana, alcohol, which I think are stupid as well and I abstain from those too), if the law allows it then people can do it until it's NOT in the law books. That's my stance.
 

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Well, let me ask this:

Should a person who does not have a license, or the capabilities to drive an automobile, pay taxes that are used for public roads and the treatment of them? Kind of the same thing, isn't it? Paying for something that you do not use.
We pay a gas tax ( I think is a good & fair tax ) to maintain roads...i pay monthly & a deductable for medical that has been rising rapidly over the last couple years .
 

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Where do I draw the line? Well, as I have stated at nauseam, I do NOT support abortion just for the sake of getting rid of a baby. However, as of now, it's allowed and as much as I hate it (along with marijuana, alcohol, which I think are stupid as well and I abstain from those too), if the law allows it then people can do it until it's NOT in the law books. That's my stance.

OK. How about the selling of human body parts from those aborted babies? Are you against that? What about race select abortions? You against that? What about sex select abortions? You against that? What about Adverse term abortions (kids who will have deformities) you against that? All these are activities people currently practice aborting babies, and in virtually every case there are legal restrictions against them, yet the practices continue and the Left is no where condeming it.

Neither are you.
 
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