Crxxms throwing Wxxdy under the bus in Locke's blog......

[War Machine Dawg]

He says Wxxdy calls all the plays, but he listens over the headset and they talk between series. He also says he'll remind Wxxdy of situations when we need to run the ball to rest the D. Looks like he's getting ready to ditch Wxxdy at season's end so his walrus *** can draw his 1.7 million dollar paycheck another season. 17, next season is gonna blow donkey nuts.

/GB, PLEASE deliver us from football hell

 

[War Machine Dawg]

He says Wxxdy calls all the plays, but he listens over the headset and they talk between series. He also says he'll remind Wxxdy of situations when we need to run the ball to rest the D. Looks like he's getting ready to ditch Wxxdy at season's end so his walrus *** can draw his 1.7 million dollar paycheck another season. 17, next season is gonna blow donkey nuts.

/GB, PLEASE deliver us from football hell

 

[MSUDOG92]

Looks like he's getting ready to ditch Wxxdy at season's end so his walrus *** can draw his 1.7 million dollar paycheck another season. 17, next season is gonna blow donkey nuts.

/GB, PLEASE deliver us from football hell

I'm hoping with Byrne as AD, this may actually happen, and maybe Byrne will actually pressure Croom to, you know, listen to his OC instead of tell him what to run. Under LT, we would have known that this wouldn't happen. Also, maybe he'll throw the ST's coordinator under the bus next.

 

[dawgstudent]

unless we maybe only win one more game the rest of the season which is a small possibility.

But our only hope is that Croom lets McCorvey be the scapegoat of his craptastic offense and he brings in a completely new OC with a completely new system and lets him run it. We still have Croom's game management to deal with but we will at least rid ourselves of one problem - the offense.

 

[TheBigDA]

What coach bases his offensive series off the needs of the defense? I understand the D needing rest, hell they play 90% of the clock time. A good offense that scores fires up a D to get the ball back quicker to score again. I have never heard Urban Myer, Nick Saban, or any other coach say well we changed our philosophy on O that series to give the D a rest.

 

[saddawg]

I don't see him being fired either.

And that's probably why I drink too much late at night alone with my thoughts.

However, firing Woody doesn't fire me up because I believe Croom is 100% the problem with our offense( although Woody is no guru). Combine that with the moronic game decisions and I have no hope.

3 or four wins this year, plus Croom still here next year, just makes it worse for no reason. Either fire him this year or just piss away another season and do it next year.

 

[DovaDawg]

As the days get shorter and the weather cooler, Saddawgs sun-kissed women are a bright spot in my day.
Just not ready to go back to the festively plump file yet!

 

[DerHntr]

The bottom line: If the plays are executed, they're all good plays

give me a 17ing break. i think he truly believes that ANY offensive play call at ANY time in the game can work. all of that **** about primary and secondary plays to counter what they are doing goes out the window when you believe that execution of ANYTHING you call is a good play.

if i remember one thing from this enourmous mistake of a coaching hire i will remember that EXECUTION of a play makes it a good one no matter the scheme. this is the biggest crock of **** excuse i have ever heard from a coach. it is like he is saying that woody can do no wrong because all of the plays are good and he just simply needs to pull one out of a hat because it would work if we executed it.

croom's wrasslin name would definitely be The Executor

 

[dawgstudent]

if you have the execution, the play will work. The problem is, a small % of plays will be executed correctly by all 11 so running an offense that requires perfect execution is idiotic.

 

[OMlawdog]

I remember that being posted here either from Croom's radio show or post game comments, but I do remember that.

So now he is saying he doesn't call the plays? Why is no one asking about that clear contradiction.

Seems a little crazy.

 

[saddawg]

if you call ,say ,an inside zone play with 4 wide, and they play you straight up man with 7 in the box, you can execute your *** off and it ain't gonna work.

Croom claims we audible out of bad calls against certain defenses, if so I've never seen it work.

No telling how many times I've seen what the other D is lined up in and said " Please don't run play XYZ."

9 out of 10 times we run play XYZ..

 

[dawgstudent]

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[DerHntr]

reality is that execution of a play also comes at the hands of how things have been going in the game and what strengths you have on your team to actually execute when needed. for example setting up a play action pass by running the ball well early in the series makes it easier to execute. i think this idiot just calls plays willy nilly and expects that execution should happen regardless of the situation since he and ol woodrow drew up such a great play.

it gives him the perfect excuse. "we called the right plays....they just didn't execute." if all the plays are good then he is always calling the right ones. it comes down to him not being wrong and his players being thrown under the bus.</p>

 

[basedog]

"the table is being set for next season", Croom knows what he has to do, now will he do it is another thing, but making $1.7 per and being what 53 years old you can't make too many bad decisions as for as your "retirement goes".

 

[dawgstudent]

but every play designed with perfect execution will be a great play.

 

[OMlawdog]

How does a reporter let that big of a contradiction slide?

How is the next question not, about how he said he calls the plays just a few weeks ago?

I know he gets a pass from the media, but I mean this is somewhat a big deal in the realm of coaching, i.e. who is calling the plays, and for him to flip flop like that seems like a valid question and one that should be answered.

 

[DerHntr]

excuse is idiotic at best because the probability of actually executing a play depends also on when it is called in the sequence of other "great plays." he instead uses his execution excuse to say that "well we called the right plays but our guys just effed them up aGAIN" instead of realizing that effing them up is also a function of when he called them. as we have all seen it is much harder to execute when even the damn blue hairs in the stands know what you are about to run.</p>

 

[Uncle Leo]

But it appears that what he said back then was, "I'm the offensive coordinator."

Subtle difference, perhaps.

But there's still an obvious follow-up question.... Why is someone other than the offensive coordinator calling the plays?

 

[dawgstudent]

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[saddawg]

not really true. It depends on defensive alignment.

However, when you draw up a play with all the Os blocking all the Xs, it should work like that.

Unless X is Greg Hardy and O is Saulsberry.

 

[RebelBruiser]

What coach bases his offensive series off the needs of the defense? I understand the D needing rest, hell they play 90% of the clock time. A good offense that scores fires up a D to get the ball back quicker to score again. I have never heard Urban Myer, Nick Saban, or any other coach say well we changed our philosophy on O that series to give the D a rest.

I also disagree with the notion that running the ball rests the defense anymore than passing the ball. If you go three and out with 3 incomplete passes, the defense gets the same amount of rest as if you go three and out with 3 running plays.

Obviously, the difference is the time that runs off the game clock. However, the time between plays is really no different for running plays than for passing plays, especially with the new 40 second play clock. The real way to keep a defense rested is to get first downs and keep your offense on the field.

Back on the original topic though, it appears to me that Byrne may have had a little talk with Croom. If I recall, it was only a few weeks ago when Croom was saying that he was the offensive coordinator, and he was the one calling the plays, etc. Now, he's saying that it is Woody's job. Sounds to me like maybe he was made to understand that the offense was going to need to change if he wanted to coach next year.

 

[OMlawdog]

So when he is saying he is the offensive coordinator, that means he isn't calling the plays?

Now he is saying that Woody is the OC, and therefore he calls the game.

I just don't understand how he doesn't get called out on this.

 

[lawdawg02]

If you go three and out with 3 incomplete passes, the defense gets the same amount of rest as if you go three and out with 3 running plays.</p>

you are exactly right. that was my first thought when i read the quote too. FIRST DOWNS are what keeps the defense off the field, not running instead of passing. i guess the theory could be that if you run, you at least make progress, making a first down more likely than if you have an incomplete pass. the problem with that theory is obviously our offense.

if you want to give the D a break, try getting a few first downs.

 

[DerHntr]

man it must be turrible to have an offense like missouri that puts too much pressure on its own defense by scoring so quickly on offense.

 

[DowntownDawg]

...our only hope with Croom is that he can turn into a "Stansbury" type coach - recruit well (this area is much improved), get the players to play hard and play good defense (does this ok for the most part), and stay out of the way. Stansbury makes some boneheaded decisions in games that cost us every now and then, but by and large, we have a successful basketball program because he brings in good players and they play hard. I've given up hope on Croom's game management. That's not going to happen. Of course, all this is predicated on McCorvey being replaced and that actually making a difference. I'm encouraged to see that McCorvey calls the plays. Maybe replacing him would really help.

 

[RebelBruiser]

but every play designed with perfect execution will be a great play.

In theory, yes. However, most modern offenses realize that it is much easier to not have to block everyone perfectly, and therefore a lot of plays are designed with the expectation that you'll be able to "block" defenders by fooling them. Play action passes are a good example. If the LBs and DBs don't bite on the fake, then it doesn't matter how well you block or how well you run your routes, the play is probably not going to work.

If you run a reverse and the DE and CB stay home, the play won't work.

Edited to add: Has Croom not tried implementing some form of the whole Wildcat offense thing? Obviously it's working enough that it's catching across the country. Even at UT they try to do something with it, though they seem to think that you just line up a black guy at QB, snap him the ball and tell him to run right or left. They don't seem to get the offense, but they are at least trying it in some fashion. I've always said that the best offensive minds are the ones that are able to see something that is working for other teams and can implement it as a wrinkle in their own system, even if it's just a play or two.

 

[PBRME]

I wonder if he understands that by pointing fingers at the players for not executing, he is calling himself out. Who is ultimately repsonsible for teaching the players proper execution?</p>

 

[DerHntr]

that he believes it takes years to master his high tech offense...so again it is not his fault...he is just that DAMN GOOD.