I have a feeling Pope has a big board be it white board or excel spreadsheet, that board, has player, info on player, % of need for said player, and finally what is the max amount we are willing to pay for said player. That is how I do spread sheets on stuff for my customers.If all we were willing to pay is $500k (or $800k as I heard elsewhere), for a player that some programs deem is worth 1 to 1.5m...
Then we're toast.
I feel like some higher ups at UK/Boosters might may have the same take as some posters here: "This is Kentucky, they should line UP to play for us! let's give him the minimum and make him turn us down!"
Per 24/7 Travis Branham.
Edit: Now Trilly as well.
Does UK have someone running their NIL program? If not, why not, as this is apparently the life line to survive, let alone prosper?
If Barnhart is the issue, why don't the coaches approach the board or who ever they need to and ask for a change?
Who currently determines the amount for each player?
Dude showed a message that Magoon Gwath sent him answering that he was never going to transfer , he was just getting info and feelers because his family wanted him to. So this is completely on his agent and the media members who assumed the highest offer was going to land him. The staff never had a chance .I'd wager there is something going on at UK. That could be people that recruits or transfers are meeting, and not liking, or Pope and staff sending the wrong message. I easily can see Pope being as enthusiastic about UK's tradition as we are, and the players going "uuuuggghhhh, cool..."
UT and UL did not dive in headfirst. Their respective collectives dove in headfirst and it was the collectives who were the ones who brought the Athletics Departments on board. Not the other way around. The collectives sold the administrations on the idea and drove everything.I agree with most of what you said. However mitch is absolutely an obstacle. First off, he was super slow to let significant nil even get started at uk. All while schools such as UT and UL dove in head first.
Secondly he refuses to help at all. I get that he cant be leading the charge, but he must at least be in the game.
Third his slow adoption/weird stance on revenue sharing is going to hurt, if it isnt already. UK has basically one donor that funds football and basketball along with the coaching staff for both. If Mitch would openly embrace sport specific nil, that would alleviate some of the funding pressure for football and let it get rerouted to basketball.
I get it that he (and probably many others) view it as something sketchy and unsavory. None of that matters now. This is the worst time to just be disengaged simply because its against your personal beliefs. He should follow suit of all the others that retired.
If what you say is true, and I have no idea how NIL works, why doesn't UK have someone to do just what you described? Since UK does not have this person or position, who is deciding how much $ goes to who and tracking everything? Can't imagine any "business" operating without someone in control. Too many statements have said that Barnhart was slow to agree with NIL and that has and continues to hamper UK athletics. The almighty $ controls everything and UK must operate like their competition to survive.UT and UL did not dive in headfirst. Their respective collectives dove in headfirst and it was the collectives who were the ones who brought the Athletics Departments on board. Not the other way around. The collectives sold the administrations on the idea and drove everything.
Same thing with how Duke’s collective works. Duke’s AD doesn’t do anything to drive their NIL funds. They have a few backers who took the initiative and started pulling things together.
There is very little Barnhart can do to impede NIL. If you have someone savvy and willing to put in the effort running the collective, a donor base to tap into and a fan base willing to embrace it, you’ll have a large NIL fund. Even if the AD is not supportive.
Folks blaming Barnhart for this don’t understand how successful NIL programs are built.
UT and UL did not dive in headfirst. Their respective collectives dove in headfirst and it was the collectives who were the ones who brought the Athletics Departments on board. Not the other way around. The collectives sold the administrations on the idea and drove everything.
Same thing with how Duke’s collective works. Duke’s AD doesn’t do anything to drive their NIL funds. They have a few backers who took the initiative and started pulling things together.
There is very little Barnhart can do to impede NIL. If you have someone savvy and willing to put in the effort running the collective, a donor base to tap into and a fan base willing to embrace it, you’ll have a large NIL fund. Even if the AD is not supportive.
Folks blaming Barnhart for this don’t understand how successful NIL programs are built.
You need competent boosters to take the initiative and be willing to treat building a collective as a full-time job (or hire someone to make it their full time job). It is not something the schools do.If what you say is true, and I have no idea how NIL works, why doesn't UK have someone to do just what you described? Since UK does not have this person or position, who is deciding how much $ goes to who and tracking everything? Can't imagine any "business" operating without someone in control. Too many statements have said that Barnhart was slow to agree with NIL and that has and continues to hamper UK athletics. The almighty $ controls everything and UK must operate like their competition to survive.
No, it is true. All of the initial NIL efforts for Tennessee were driven by Spyre, not the school. Baddour, Clawson, etc did all of the heavy lifting and got everyone on board. It was not the Athletics Department. The Athletics Department simply reaped the benefits of what Spyre was doing.That just isnt true. Maybe its tht way where you work, but not true for these examples. UT absolutely went in head first and was the first school to just ignore the rules and go pay for play when they paid nico millions. The money came from their collective, driven (no pun intended) by the pilot guy but they never make that move without the ad blessing. Plus UT was way ahead in marking a portion of ticket sales for football nil.
Mitch refused to even let anyone work with a collective. It was only after nearly losing the football coach did he concede and let uk work with them. Mitch even made a special announcement saying so, but this was way behind the curve. UL was ahead and gobbled up several potential donors leaving us with the same single donor Mitch relied on for years.
Ya at a place like duke or sju where you have billionaires actively seeking to put money into the program, the ad doesn't need to do anything. Not the case here. Uk has basically one donor because mitch rested on his laurels for years. It will take a dynamic approach, including the ad cultivating donors and rerouting funds if UK is ever going to be consistently competing in this environment. Instead he doesn't like it, so he forces coaches to handle their own with no support. Its absurd.
No, it is true. All of the initial NIL efforts for Tennessee were driven by Spyre, not the school. Baddour, Clawson, etc did all of the heavy lifting and got everyone on board. It was not the Athletics Department. The Athletics Department simply reaped the benefits of what Spyre was doing.
Your understanding of the timeline of events at Tennessee and who was responsible for those activities is not accurate.
ok, so now it seems that Barnhart is again the problem. How does UK overcome his ineptness? It is apparent that he is not an astute business man as demonstrated by his terrible contracts with ccc & the previous women's basketball coach. Would he have to approve the hiring of a General Manger to handle the NIL? Something must be done to keep UK from falling further and further behind.I never said the athletics department drove it. You're making a strawman argument. I said the athletics department worked with them, and they did. It was a brazen violation of rules, so I'm sure that played a role in the bifurcated efforts.
Mitch actively prohibited uk from coordinating with collectives. We were one of the last schools to get in the modern era. He thought nil would just blow over so he didn't want uk involved. Now we're going to be one of the last to have competitive revenue sharing. His approach is great if you're in fencing or some other money pit sport but with our situation, we need all nil with football and basketball.
Also you didn't address the part about his laziness in replying on one major donor and not cultivating more. So i assume that silence is acceptance, because its certainly is true.
Mitch doesn't like nil. Thats fine but he lets his personal feelings bleed into his job and that just cant happen in these pivotal times.