Cue OT rule change talk

FlabLoser

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Both teams get a possession unless the 1st team gets a TD on its 1st possession. Makes zero sense. Look for this rule to change soon.

And by soon, I mean 7 years. Because that's how the NFL rolls. If it were NASCAR the rule would change next week.
 

FlabLoser

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Both teams get a possession unless the 1st team gets a TD on its 1st possession. Makes zero sense. Look for this rule to change soon.

And by soon, I mean 7 years. Because that's how the NFL rolls. If it were NASCAR the rule would change next week.
 

drt7891

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They only changed it after the Saints were able to boot a long FG to beat the Vikings 2 years ago. The NFL is trying too hard to be nice and fair while still playing favorites.
 

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time expires, add 5 minutes and keep playing, still 3rd and 8. After 3 OT's, do something different...hell, I dunno, but the coin flip should not determine the winner. Having said that, congrats to Tebow. I like the coin flip when it works for me.
 

FlabLoser

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Each team should get a possession. Pretty simple.

That or go back to the old rule.

Or do it like college except start from the 50 or the -40 to make teams earn FG range.
 

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FlabLoser said:
Each team should get a possession. Pretty simple.
That's what I thought the rule was... until today when they explained it before OT started. The new rules are even dumber than sudden death.
 

patdog

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Talk about a coin flip giving a team a real advantage. It's a HUGE advantage to go second on OT in college. I really like someone else's idea from this thread of letting OT just be a continuation of the 4th quarter. If it's 3rd and 8 at the end of the 4th, that's what it is at the start of OT.
 

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I agree with everything they have done. in real game play, we'll have to wait and see how a fully played OT works out.

-if you give up a defensive or special team TD it's over.....and it should be on those plays
-you can't win a coin flip and drive 30 yards and kick a fg to win. you have to earn it with a td and you should...done
-after each team has a possession you can kick a fg to win....just like it would be if you were in the fourth qtr.

I think had the broncos been on a methodical drive the steeler d would have really tightened up inside the 20, but they broke a big one. I had no problem with it. I am a cowboys fan...if that had happened to us. I would have been like oh well we deserved to lose. The steelers had 4 other quarters to TCB and they didn't.
 

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Why change the rule in the first place if you aren't actually going to fix it correctly? The best scenario that I have heard would be to play a 10 minute overtime period, no sudden death scoring. It just doesn't make much sense that you play a 60 minute game and then decide in overtime that if the team that wins a coin toss and scores a TD is the winner without the other team having an opportunity to answer. If they won't go to playing a 10 minute quarter, at the minimum they should allow both teams to possess the football. I just don't like the idea of winning/losing a coin toss being extremely advantageous. In overtime in the playoffs, no other sport emphasizes luck as much as the NFL.
 

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Each team starts at the 20 and you have to get in the end zone to score. Keep the rule where you have to start going for 2 after the 2nd OT.
 

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I think it's great, granted it's not perfect by any means. However, with the range of NFL kickers today overtime was basically a team trying to get into field goal range and that was it. At least this new rule motivates a team to take some chances and try to score the touchdown, which I think will make for better football for the fans. Now of course we won't see that yet because the new rule only got one play, but give it some time and I think it'll grow on people.
 

patdog

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they definitely need to eliminate the kicker entirely. You have to score a TD and you have to go for 2 (even in the 1st OT). It's just too big of an advantage for the 2nd team to know whether a FG is going to be good enough or not. What I don't like about the college OT is that it's just artificial. You completely eliminate special teams (except the FG unit) and field position is eliminated. Those are both pretty important parts of the game. The moreI think about it, the more I like just continuing the game where it left off at the end of regulation. Sure one team will have an advantage. But it will be an advantage that teamearned in the course of play.
 

DerHntr

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how is that fair to a team who has taken the time and effort recruit, or in the NFL draft and pay, a great kicker?
 

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Each team gets a possession, start at the -40. Require 2point conversions after the first OT.

Say they were playing Green Bay, New Orleans, New England - how fair is it to not give Rodgers, Brees or Brady a chance? Letting a coin toss, instead of teams, decide games isn't really fair. Give each offense a chance.
 

patdog

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If the first team scores a TD, you eliminate the second team's kicker already under the current rules anyway. And you've already eliminatedthe punters, kickoff returners, punt returners, and kick coverage unitsunder the current rules (again this penalizes the team that has taken the time and effort to recruit good ones).
 

kired

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I just don'tlike thatthey allow a sudden death TD but not FG. I think it was a dumb change. Either it should be sudden death no matter how a team scores, or both teams should be allowed 1 possession.

If a FG is for some reason not worthy of ending the game in sudden death, why even allow them at all?
 

DerHntr

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the game at the end of regulation. A team wouldn't be rewarded for stalling until overtime to try to win there too.
 

ckDOG

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Kick it off instead of placing the ball like the NCAA. Repeat the 2 possessions until somebody wins. The only argument I've heard against this is that the 2nd team has the advantage of knowing what they have to do to win. So what? This happens all the time during the end of regulation. I don't see why it should be a hang up for OT.
 

patdog

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ckDOG said:
The only argument I've heard against this is that the 2nd team has the advantage of knowing what they have to do to win. So what? This happens all the time during the end of regulation. I don't see why it should be a hang up for OT.
Because when it happens atthe end of regulation, it's the result of playing 60 minutes of football, not whether a coin landed on heads or tails. If a team knows what it has to do to win at the end of regulation,they earned that right. In college OT,they just got lucky. I actually like the NFL rule as it is. If you can't keep ateamoutof the end zone on the first possession, you don't deserve to win.You say well thatteam didn't get a chance to win. Sure they did. Their defense blew it for them.Actually, in the NFL it can be a big advantage to get the ball second in OT. You're going to start at about your own 20 if you get the ball first. But if you get a3-and-out ondefense on that first possession, you're going to get your offense the ball nearmidfield. That's abig difference.
 

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slickdawg said:
Each team gets a possession, start at the -40. Require 2point conversions after the first OT.

Say they were playing Green Bay, New Orleans, New England - how fair is it to not give Rodgers, Brees or Brady a chance? Letting a coin toss, instead of teams, decide games isn't really fair. Give each offense a chance.
So its the Saints fault they have a good quarterback. I say start from your own 20 and only allow field goals the first possession. All extra points have to be 2 point conversions, no PATs. Or maybe start from the redzone 10 yard line, until someone doesn't score a touchdown. That would be exciting.