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Maine has 1.3 million people. I thought you realized population density matters, but nope, still learning.
Arizona population has grown ~2.4 million over the last 24 years. Colorado has grown ~1.6 million in the last 24 years.
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Places like Maine are great places to look for evidence to spot actual changes in climate versus periodic variance in weather patterns in various areas and the localized effects of destructive man made environmental overhaul. Also, the further north you go, the better when it comes to testing the theories of the "climate scientists" as climate change is supposed to be markedly more dramatic the further north you go.
I think it makes sense to look at areas where humans have increased massively, to see if humans have an impact on weather and climate.
We are still learning. You don’t seem to believe in climate change, hence the quotes around climate scientists, yet you feel confident that climate change is more dramatic the more north you go?
Maine hasn’t seen the same localized effects of “destructive man made environmental overhaul” because Maine hasn’t seen the human population growth necessary to see massive man made environmental overhaul. Places like Colorado and Arizona are better to study, because they have seen an influx of humans, and therefore more man made environmental overhaul. Maine is lightly populated by humans. If Maine adds a couple million people, it will get warmer too.
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You are in first grade on the climate. LOL that you believe I am “learning”. I’m not the moron who sucks up the hysteria. As I told you, urban heat islands raise the noise floor by 9 degrees! To simplify it for you, the more people and more development in the Phoenix area leads to more asphalt, etc and less farm land. Hence you get a bigger heat island and more hysteria for those prone to believe it
It’s great that you understand the climate is not changing at all thanks to man. That is why Maine should allow you to sleep better tonight.
if you can’t stand the heat, move to somewhere rural.
To sum this up…..
Phoenix is a heat island because there are so many people and concrete.
Maine does not have heat islands because there aren’t that many people.
And this proves that humans don’t have an impact on the weather and climate.
Good stuff TJ, you should be a professor.
Phoenix is a heat island because there are so many people and concrete.
Maine does not have heat islands because there aren’t that many people.
And this proves that humans don’t have an impact on the weather and climate.
Good stuff TJ, you should be a professor.
Over the last 25 years, only 20% of years have stayed under 100 days of 90 degrees.
The previous 100 years, that # was 50%. Dallas, like other highly populated areas, is getting warmer.
It’s not like they haven’t recently revised peak human population growth to 2080 either. It’s almost like the very wealthy people who want to kill off a bunch of people for survival of man have been wrong. All these people do is scare younger generations. Some of them are too scared to have children. Welp…there’s sterilization without any drugs necessary. IIRC, getting jabbed with multiple covid boosters had created sterility issues with some people, as well. Clean air, properly cared for forests, continue to plant trees (arbor day), try not to destroy the rain forests, pay attention to air quality (minimize pollution as we have in the US), get the real perps (India and China) on board with air quality standards and let’s handle plastics/trash better. These are real issues. This is where attention should be. What’s next? The Triassic period ended because T Rex and Triceratops farted too much?
I can promise you will never hear me speak about cow or t-Rex farts.
Density of humans in vulnerable areas, poor urban development/planning, and fresh water usage….those are the things I’ve talked about. All were relevant during the California fires. Cow farts were not.
You are correct about India and China. Densely populated countries that do a lot of damage.
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I’m in Europe on a river cruise! Reading this debate it seems you all are in agreement that more population affects local warming. The big picture is there now are 8.3 billion people vs less than 1 billion in 1800. (All these people give off a lot of methane gas 
, T Rex was a long time ago)
The earth goes thru cycles and that rarely seems to be factored into global warming. In Europe I constantly hear about global warming from the locals, it is accepted fact here. Today we heard it is only a matter of time until the Netherlands is under water.
The science of global warming is affected too much by politics. Like Uncoach said there are a lot of positive things we can do. Draconian green new deal, no.
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, T Rex was a long time ago)The earth goes thru cycles and that rarely seems to be factored into global warming. In Europe I constantly hear about global warming from the locals, it is accepted fact here. Today we heard it is only a matter of time until the Netherlands is under water.
The science of global warming is affected too much by politics. Like Uncoach said there are a lot of positive things we can do. Draconian green new deal, no.
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The climate debate is probably the most stupid public debate in my lifetime and we see a microcosm of that on this board.
One side thinks we’re all going to die every 5-10 years.
One side thinks 8 billion humans are having no impact.
It’s not possible that it’s somewhere in the middle either..
One side thinks we’re all going to die every 5-10 years.
One side thinks 8 billion humans are having no impact.
It’s not possible that it’s somewhere in the middle either..
Today it's 68oF at 10 AM EST. Skies have cleared and you can see across the valley !
So the Canadian forest fires must be burning themselves out.
About 20 years ago, some micro-burst storms hit into the Adirondack Park and took down about 100,000 acres of forest trees.
So many millions of board feet of lumber that NY State decided to leave the logs/trees where they fell.
Forget the fire risk !
I’m definitely in the middle. I don’t think we are going to die off. I do think we should acknowledge that humans have an impact (apparently people recognize it happens in China and India, I guess that’s a good first step), and consider that when planning. I know, crazy talk.
So you would rather hike. Are you saying you would hike at a slightly above mule pace ?
Are you afraid of mules, or saving your money for the TJ Challenge Meet !
A long time friend was a local NJ high school First All State Athlete, on the pommel horse. He had Popeye like forearms from the sport and went to college, onto the gymnastics team.
He was also talked onto the cheerleading team. He specialized in lofting the girls into the air while he used one arm in a military press.
He said he never realized that cheerleading was such a target rich environment for dating in college !
Whether there will actually be peace within a month’s time or so remains to be seen, but Trump has been working hard. Neat read. Melania Trump thanked by Zelenskyy’s wife, the First Lady of Ukraine. Here specifically NATO complimenting Trump. Zelenskyy cracked a joke to the reporter about his suit.
Huge forest regions, and I am talking of 100's of thousands acres are all cooler worldwide !
They exude something called Oxygen. Which has a cooling effect !
May haps you should investigate Chi-na's, one child policy that was forced upon the Chinese people by the CCP.
China AND India are now attempting to control rain/monsoons in regions with re-forestation and water retention where it falls.
Here is a fact; That since NASA has been able to examine Earth from above, green regions have CONTINUED to EXPAND WORLDWIDE !
Which means more eating of carbon dioxide by vegetation and more oxygen expended into the atmosphere !
Which lowers temps, Worldwide.
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My FIL is a great athlete, but he’s only 5’7”. He was a male cheerleader at Indiana State during the Bird era. He has shared similar stories about his college years.
My daughter performed on the field this Saturday with the Junior Broncos Cheerleaders. She loved it. I have a feeling I have a lot of cheer events in my near future.
"The strategy is to hire 25-35% of the crowd, whose presence draws in genuine protesters, who are then joined by agent provocateurs seeking to turn otherwise
peaceful demonstrations into violent riots."
^^^This is what Amuse accuses. Seems like a reasonable take.
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Crazy talk considers air pollution/air quality as part of climate change and in particular the climate change scam. “Climate change” is a hoax created by the very wealthy and sold by the likes of Al Gore to redistribute American wealth and thus our economic power, so we can be ruled as serfs by members of the WEF, who believe they are better than us, which includes you. You’ve apparently allowed yourself to be gaslit continually with this anti-capitalistic nonsense. That doesn’t mean you can’t be called out on it by people who have been around long enough to remember the climate scare of the 70’s, which was heading into an ice age. The nutjobs were wrong, so they created global warming hysteria. Conservationism and taking care of our environment has always had value. Climate scare tactics, not so much.
I think mules are great. I’m just super proud of my hiking time. (Slightly above human pace). I was wondering if an athlete like yourself thought that was impressive is all!
I upped the ante to $5k. TJ wasn’t impressed by $1k. When I win, I might just buy my own mule.
No, Trump is a dictator! Says some supposed former Reagan Rs
Cheer parents are run through the meat grinder of expenses. Holy cow, my buddy spent a lot on his daughters "travel cheer" or whatever it was called.
Not in favor of the "sport" !
Fat shaming the girls.
Rather have them join girls Cross Country, for the long haul in high school ! Just putting one foot in front of the other, repeat !
The animosity and envy among you MAGA is fueled by your inferiority complex as shown by this post.
Here we END one of your multiple posts !
Epstein.
Yesterday, 2 time United States Attorney General Barr, (AG under a Democrat ((Confirmed by a 100 - 0 Vote the First !)) and Republican President) testified under oath that President Trump was NOT implicated or mentioned in any document he saw while AG !
He further stated that if there was any mention of Trump the Dems would have already leaked it !
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He has no credibility as he is best known for running in front of the cameras with the Mueller Report and lying that it found no Russian interference, and that there was no interference with justice by Trump. Of course just the opposite was true and multiple people were indicted as a result.
Great. Look forward to the Trump DOJ holding anyone, anyone at all, accountable. So far they’ve done nothing but release a fake binder and let Ghislaine free.
“Weather” and “climate” are global. “Heat islands” are acutely linked to high-density areas with lots of concrete and asphalt. While humans obviously have a high impact on “heat islands” (we literally create them), our impact on global weather and climate is minimal in comparison.
Precisely. A growing, high-density area where humans laid tons more concrete and asphalt. A localized “heat island”, not climate change.
It’s called competitive cheer. Very expensive traveling all over the States. My DD did it.