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Headline from the journalists at the Washington Post: "Kilmar Abrego set free after illegal deportation, smuggling charges". I can't read the article but the headline says it all, WAPO doesn't just report the news, they tell you what to believe. Despite Jeff Bezos claiming otherwise, they are as left wing as the New York Times.

I try to read both sides. Paywalls and a weak stomach sometimes thwart this. Kilmar is going to live in Maryland until he gets a trial, which will the the circus of the century. Gavin Newsome will probably sit in the court room to show his support.
 

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Remember when some posters said it was just a Trump thing and if RDS was the candidate, Dems would act differently? Yeah. That wasn’t believable and I had mentioned how the Left had treated Bush 43.

 

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...or maybe they have reason to believe he broke the law?
Storm the Capitol and you get a pardon but make disparaging comments about Trump and you get a raid. Does anyone believe that if Bolton was a Trump sycophant that a raid would have ever happened? Highly doubtful.
 

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Storm the Capitol and you get a pardon but make disparaging comments about Trump and you get a raid. Does anyone believe that if Bolton was a Trump sycophant that a raid would have ever happened? Highly doubtful.
Jeff - it is known you hate Trump. So, why not use this criminal raid to attack Trump? Bolton loves war and I’ll do the work for you. Trump made or was talked into making an extremely poor choice in Bolton. It is a one-time Trump official who acted illegally. Deranged leftists have hated Bolton for decades only to embrace him in recent times.

By going after corrupt Trump officials everyone is now fair game.
 

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OT-Meta has a feature you need to know about

My wife has Facebook and never has gone into settings. The attached article explains that in a software update Meta gained access to the photos on your phone and is using AI to analyze them to give you suggestions of some sort. I don't think she has been getting suggestions but it is an invasion of privacy none the less.

I went to her phone settings and access to her camera roll was enabled. Of course I disabled it but how creepy are those Newsome loving liberals at Facebook. No wonder they need all those data centers.
 

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Jeff - it is known you hate Trump. So, why not use this criminal raid to attack Trump? Bolton loves war and I’ll do the work for you. Trump made or was talked into making an extremely poor choice in Bolton. It is a one-time Trump official who acted illegally. Deranged leftists have hated Bolton for decades only to embrace him in recent times.

By going after corrupt Trump officials everyone is now fair game.
Let me know when Trump goes after a corrupt sycophant and then get back to me. There are plenty to choose from. Otherwise, it is just a political persecution.
 
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Interesting read. This horrible trucking accident resulting in the deaths of 3 Floridians has angered the Florida leadership and it appears Florida and the 47 admin are in lockstep on this issue and appear to be getting ready to open up a can of whoop*** on sanctuary states handing out DL’s to non-qualifying immigrants.

 

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Let me know when Trump goes after a corrupt sycophant and then get back to me. There are plenty to choose from. Otherwise, it is just a political persecution.
Hilarious. Your derangement is total!!!

This reflects poorly on Trump in more ways than one since Trump chose him, yet you can’t celebrate because the warmonger Bolton is just like YOU! You take it personally that one of your pals was raided.
 

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OT-Meta has a feature you need to know about

My wife has Facebook and never has gone into settings. The attached article explains that in a software update Meta gained access to the photos on your phone and is using AI to analyze them to give you suggestions of some sort. I don't think she has been getting suggestions but it is an invasion of privacy none the less.

I went to her phone settings and access to her camera roll was enabled. Of course I disabled it but how creepy are those Newsome loving liberals at Facebook. No wonder they need all those data centers.

Are you familiar with Palantir? We are being tracked at all times.
 

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Jeff - it is known you hate Trump. So, why not use this criminal raid to attack Trump? Bolton loves war and I’ll do the work for you. Trump made or was talked into making an extremely poor choice in Bolton. It is a one-time Trump official who acted illegally. Deranged leftists have hated Bolton for decades only to embrace him in recent times.

By going after corrupt Trump officials everyone is now fair game.

You can name the stakes up to $10K on Trump ever getting a criminal conviction against Bolton.
 

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I’m not quite sure of the jab at the Massiehole, but if these numbers end up being true, there will be a lot of hats and crow on menus everywhere in America for the doubters and disbelievers to eat.



First, thanks for admitting the tariffs are taxes on consumption, meaning they are regressive.

Second, I think it’s at least fair to say the tariffs may bring in $350-$400B yearly. He gets his $4T by multiplying that over a decade btw.

Last year the deficit was $1.8T. This year with some tariff revenue it’s going to be $1.9T. Even a reduction to say $1.5T due to tariff revenue (which won’t happen due to other spending), the deficit is still massive.

Trump fixed nothing and taxed you more. Don’t expect the final numbers on growth in 2025 to end up particularly good either. Jobs are weak right, growth below par.
 

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All reports indicate the investigation was quashed by Biden. Let’s see the evidence and charges.

I know the backstory into that “investigation.” He has zero chance of a criminal conviction, but I suppose Team Trump sent a message to its enemies yesterday.
 
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Hilarious. Your derangement is total!!!

This reflects poorly on Trump in more ways than one since Trump chose him, yet you can’t celebrate because the warmonger Bolton is just like YOU! You take it personally that one of your pals was raided.
The shame of the complete politicization of the DOJ has nothing to do with Bolton whom I never cared for . The shame is that Trump and his ethical starved hacks have destroyed the rule of law that separated the US from the rest of the world .Trump and his cronies have turned us into Russia. , Belarus, and MAGA which is suppose to be patriotic is oK with this.
 

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The shame of the complete politicization of the DOJ has nothing to do with Bolton whom I never cared for . The shame is that Trump and his ethical starved hacks have destroyed the rule of law that separated the US from the rest of the world .Trump and his cronies have turned us into Russia. , Belarus, and MAGA which is suppose to be patriotic is oK with this.
It was already destroyed by Obama and Biden. It’s funny how upset you are about a neocon being raided.
 

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I know the backstory into that “investigation.” He has zero chance of a criminal conviction, but I suppose Team Trump sent a message to its enemies yesterday.
Turnabout is fair play. Sadly, this is where we are. The weak GWB days of taking it on the chin were the end of “dignity”.
 
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First, thanks for admitting the tariffs are taxes on consumption, meaning they are regressive.

Second, I think it’s at least fair to say the tariffs may bring in $350-$400B yearly. He gets his $4T by multiplying that over a decade btw.

Last year the deficit was $1.8T. This year with some tariff revenue it’s going to be $1.9T. Even a reduction to say $1.5T due to tariff revenue (which won’t happen due to other spending), the deficit is still massive.

Trump fixed nothing and taxed you more. Don’t expect the final numbers on growth in 2025 to end up particularly good either. Jobs are weak right, growth below par.
I agree on the concern on the deficit. Trump needs congress to get on board and despite the BBB passing it required some business as usual horse trading among Republicans. A small work requirement in Medicare became a big issue and basically it was same ol Medicare, Social Security, and DoD, the biggest parts of the budget. I am still waiting for a rational plan to address the deficit that could get passed but our political process seems incapable.

However, I think Trump is trying harder on it than Kamala or Gavin Newsome or a socialist democrat would. If they get elected in 2028 they will try to raise taxes on the rich but spending will increase much faster.

Also Trump has identified that the US consumer is our greatest asset and other countries put up with the tariffs because of this. His attempts to bring manufacturing jobs to America and generally not being the pushover that Biden was in economic relations will help a little bit on the deficit as jobs create tax revenue directly and from the multiplier effect but way more is needed.
 
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All reports indicate the investigation was quashed by Biden. Let’s see the evidence and charges.
Yep, either he stole and/or illegally released classified information or he didn't, should be cut and dry. If he had been POTUS it wouldn't likely be an issue at all. But he wasn't. And allegedly the contents of his published book, which I haven't read, are sort of a smoking gun. I've noticed not many people critical of investigation Bolton were critical of the over-the-top raid on Mar a Lago.

Points to the problem inherent to people being fine with dubious law enforcement practices against [person I hate]. Once the precedent is established it's good for both goose and gander. I'm not ready to conclude that the investigation of Bolton is purely political, but I can't imagine people he made enemies of are shedding tears.
 

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The shame of the complete politicization of the DOJ has nothing to do with Bolton whom I never cared for . The shame is that Trump and his ethical starved hacks have destroyed the rule of law that separated the US from the rest of the world .Trump and his cronies have turned us into Russia. , Belarus, and MAGA which is suppose to be patriotic is oK with this.
Remember when Trump(with no criminal history at 70) was chased around by local and federal law enforcement? Remember when they used an activist judge to penalize Trump 100s of millions for a "victimless" crime? Remember the feds raiding Trumps house? Jan 6 attendees overcharged? Buehler?
You were fine with all of it, until now.
 
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Yep, either he stole and/or illegally released classified information or he didn't, should be cut and dry. If he had been POTUS it wouldn't likely be an issue at all. But he wasn't. And allegedly the contents of his published book, which I haven't read, are sort of a smoking gun. I've noticed not many people critical of investigation Bolton were critical of the over-the-top raid on Mar a Lago.

Points to the problem inherent to people being fine with dubious law enforcement practices against [person I hate]. Once the precedent is established it's good for both goose and gander. I'm not ready to conclude that the investigation of Bolton is purely political, but I can't imagine people he made enemies of are shedding tears.
Allegedly, there was evidence and the Biden administration let it go as he regularly bashed Trump. Imagine that.
 

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I seem to remember you being mostly ok with Trump being chased by law enforcement/ activist courts for years.

Maybe John Bolton is a con artist ... but seems unlikely.

Trump was clearly guilty in the Florida documents case, and his behavior was comically hamfisted. He was convicted in the NY case (tho the legal theories of the state were tortured and criticism is valid). And personally, I think his actions on January 6 (and since regarding that day) are tantamount to treason ... so sure I'm not feeling too bad for his plight.

It's absolutely a fair criticism to say that Trump was targeted because, well, Trump. But at least some of that targeting is pretty valid. I'm circumspect the same will be true of Bolton. If Letitia James really did commit mortgage fraud, no tears will be shed about her.
 

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Yep, either he stole and/or illegally released classified information or he didn't, should be cut and dry. If he had been POTUS it wouldn't likely be an issue at all. But he wasn't. And allegedly the contents of his published book, which I haven't read, are sort of a smoking gun. I've noticed not many people critical of investigation Bolton were critical of the over-the-top raid on Mar a Lago.

Points to the problem inherent to people being fine with dubious law enforcement practices against [person I hate]. Once the precedent is established it's good for both goose and gander. I'm not ready to conclude that the investigation of Bolton is purely political, but I can't imagine people he made enemies of are shedding tears.

I'm persistently amazed about how biased your interpretation of quite literally every fact pattern is. Here it shows up in the "Presidential exception" implication. Where exactly in national security law is an "ex-President exception"? I will wait my whole life for that one. Yes, a President can declassify documents; when he doesn't, he has no more entitlement than you or I to keep them.

Now there's an argument that this classification stuff is giant silliness, whether it's Trump, Biden, HRC, Obama, Pence, or Bolton. Perhaps the rules are garbage and we should have far less "classified" materials following some time period post publication. I don't know, but I'm circumspect of how easily this argument has been utilized by both teams against those they don't like.

As for the raid itself, not sure many are worried about the behavior of the FBI. Just the obvious idea that Trump is not hassling Bolton for actual criminality.