Maybe that diva cup sponsorship fell through.Syd has been pretty quiet, even deleting some posts—I’m guessing she’s now received similar counsel.
Maybe that diva cup sponsorship fell through.Syd has been pretty quiet, even deleting some posts—I’m guessing she’s now received similar counsel.
The OSU IOWA bit was about the Twitter troll accounts. They tried their hardest to keep pushing the issue the first few weeks. They’ve slowed down as well. Syd and Beau are the last 2 passengers on a sinking ship.I actually popped over here from 34 and Counting to see if anyone knows anything about the Cowboy RTC vs China dual tonight, since you have a lot of knowledgeable folks and now we're like... stepbrother fan bases, lol. But I have to say nobody on our forum has talked about Carter since a few days after the news broke. There was some "oh, look at this thing that happened, I wonder what will happen next" before the Rivals migration but that's pretty much it. Intermat is full of gossip as usual but many folks there are drama fans more than wrestling fans. So I'm not sure where you're seeing OSU fans pushing stories or cheering for Cael's demise. Personally I hate how social media is used to needlessly stir the pot like, every day about every little thing.
Yeah, there are a ton of new Twitter troll accounts with orange and black color motifs.The OSU IOWA bit was about the Twitter troll accounts. They tried their hardest to keep pushing the issue the first few weeks. They’ve slowed down as well. Syd and Beau are the last 2 passengers on a sinking ship.
I’d love to know Beau’s thoughts right now. I can’t imagine this was how he predicted his post NCAA career would start out. My guess is he’d have to ask Syd for permission to speak.
I have two thoughts on this:Beau tried to bring down PSU wrestling with his wife
**** him
I think your assessments are pretty spot on.I have two thoughts on this:
1. Syd, with Beau giving her perceived legitimacy, thought she could establish her “brand” by a shock and awe campaign against the behemoth PSU wrestling program, and
2. (Slightly) tongue-in-cheek, for Beau to be party to this, Syd must have been his first p*e*e, and it blinded him to reality.
A Netflix documentary; perhaps called “Surviving Penn State: Wrestling”. Followed by a podcast that features guests who also bring their unsubstantiated claims to light. It’s all so tiresome and predictableI have two thoughts on this:
1. Syd, with Beau giving her perceived legitimacy, thought she could establish her “brand” by a shock and awe campaign against the behemoth PSU wrestling program, and
2. (Slightly) tongue-in-cheek, for Beau to be party to this, Syd must have been his first p*e*e, and it blinded him to reality.
DT can recruit but now his kids have to perform. A few did last year but were transfers. His kids have got to win now and if they do it will be great to see someone challenge PSU but “end” is pretty extreme.Yeah, there are a ton of new Twitter troll accounts with orange and black color motifs.
Many are positive DT will “end” Penn State. Not if Pennsylvania youngsters keep winning Fargo by 100 points. This recruiting hotbed isn’t going to break off and float off into the Atlantic or anything.
There’s another explanation that’s a lot more simple. Maybe she just needs to grow up a little bit more and start understanding that she can’t just do anything she wants without consequences. Not dumping on her because I went through the same process. People at her age still have a lot to learn.I think your assessments are pretty spot on.
My wife and I are dealing with a maybe so much similar in her family. Her daughter has exhibited mental illness over the last 20 years. She’s a heavy weed smoker, and is on an antidepressant and Adderall.
You thought she was doing quite well because approximately three years ago she got pregnant and we have a lovely little granddaughter who we arenow not seeing.
unfortunately, she would spin out every few years, I’ve seen this four or five times since she was a teenager. It’s like she loses his grasp on reality.
I’d like to say that I hope that she gets better but I don’t think it’s possible. Most likely she has a personality disorder which are not fixable.
The Syd/Beau case? I would say that’s what you said, she has an entitled sense to her and is trying to make money via social media attention whorism.
You may be right.There’s another explanation that’s a lot more simple. Maybe she just needs to grow up a little bit more and start understanding that she can’t just do anything she wants without consequences. Not dumping on her because I went through the same process. People at her age still have a lot to learn.
I can’t speak for her, but that was my own MO when I was younger. A change in attitude did eventually occur over time, but it took a few hard lessons to get there. She’s still very young. Unfortunately, I won’t be around to have this conversation, but it would be interesting to see her outlook on things when she turns 50.Unfortunately, she impresses me as the type who will claim victimhood when those consequences are delivered.
She’s an adult, this is not an out look thing, this is a character thing.I can’t speak for her, but that was my own MO when I was younger. A change in attitude did eventually occur over time, but it took a few hard lessons to get there. She’s still very young. Unfortunately, I won’t be around to have this conversation, but it would be interesting to see her outlook on things when she turns 50.
She’s an adult, this is not an out look thing, this is a character thing.
At the minimum . And the herd lessons you said it took to get to a better place? This might be the first time she’s been held accountable. So this is lesson one. I hope it’s quite painful because making false accusations can destroy someone’s life.
Look at those Canadian hockey player and Trev Bauer? They suffered real world consequences from false accusations.She’s an adult, this is not an out look thing, this is a character thing.
At the minimum . And the herd lessons you said it took to get to a better place? This might be the first time she’s been held accountable. So this is lesson one. I hope it’s quite painful because making false accusations can destroy someone’s life.
I find it interesting that you bring this up and once shared your exact view. The problem is complex because a jury is weighing guilt and a reasonable doubt in our current system where they wouldn't need the same burden of proof in your proposed model. If you thought it was 55-45 one way or the other you would be sending a party to harsh punishment. There would be a ton of people in prison based on one simple matter of circumstantial evidence.I’ve always been of the belief that if the accusations were false, the accuser should face the same penalty of the crime they accused someone of.
+1I find it interesting that you bring this up and once shared your exact view. The problem is complex because a jury is weighing guilt and a reasonable doubt in our current system where they wouldn't need the same burden of proof in your proposed model. If you thought it was 55-45 one way or the other you would be sending a party to harsh punishment. There would be a ton of people in prison based on one simple matter of circumstantial evidence.
In this case, the accuser is NOT the assaulted party. As far as I know, there is no assaulted party.I find it interesting that you bring this up and once shared your exact view. The problem is complex because a jury is weighing guilt and a reasonable doubt in our current system where they wouldn't need the same burden of proof in your proposed model. If you thought it was 55-45 one way or the other you would be sending a party to harsh punishment. There would be a ton of people in prison based on one simple matter of circumstantial evidence.
If laws like this were enacted, it would have to be adjudicated separately. So a person is found not guilt of the accusations would not mean the accuser is charged, let alone guilty. The DA would the. Have to decide the evidence not only did not support the accusations but showed the accuser knowing made false accusations and prove this beyond a reasonable doubt in court. The problem is not that it would shift the burden, the problem is you would rarely see a DA bring these charges against accusers when they lost at trial because then they would have to explain why they took the charges all the way to verdict if they now claim evidence shows, beyond a reasonable doubt, the accusations were false. Could still be helpful if da finds out mid trial evidence supports they were false. Might be more ready to dismiss charges if can go after someone else instead of just saying made a mistakeI find it interesting that you bring this up and once shared your exact view. The problem is complex because a jury is weighing guilt and a reasonable doubt in our current system where they wouldn't need the same burden of proof in your proposed model. If you thought it was 55-45 one way or the other you would be sending a party to harsh punishment. There would be a ton of people in prison based on one simple matter of circumstantial evidence.
Strongly disagree. That would make every victim scared to ever report something again if they think there's a risk of jail time (and a lengthy one) for not being able to prove assault.I’ve always been of the belief that if the accusations were false, the accuser should face the same penalty of the crime they accused someone of.
Their shouldn't be criminal penalties for lying about an assault, but there should be civil penalties.Strongly disagree. That would make every victim scared to ever report something again if they think there's a risk of jail time (and a lengthy one) for not being able to prove assault.
There's one case of it ever that I would have supported it, Brian Banks. When the accuser/liar outright admitted on the record (to a wire) she lied for money. That's malicious and there was a confession and someone actually served jail time for it.
Even cases where it's clear one party embellished (Shawn Oakman, Matt Araiza) I still err against it since it's he said, she said and the facts significantly favor one party but it's not an absolute.
Sure - if the original defendent wanted to take someone to court, they're more than welcome.Their shouldn't be criminal penalties for lying about an assault, but there should be civil penalties.
Syd's problem is that she isn't the supposed victim.I agree with you all that it’s not something that could ever happen. I would only do that if it was proven that the accuser 100% fabricated the situation.
As far as scaring away other victims, you can accuse somebody of a crime without putting it all over social media and newspapers. Victims absolutely should go to the cops, not some college student at the local university paper and all you have is anonymous quotes.
It’s just a shame that you can make an accusation with no proof, severely damage somebody, and not have to face much of a consequence.
Syd’s problem seems to be Syd……Syd's problem is that she isn't the supposed victim.
I know the family of the "T.F." in this case. Specially his uncle.Strongly disagree. That would make every victim scared to ever report something again if they think there's a risk of jail time (and a lengthy one) for not being able to prove assault.
There's one case of it ever that I would have supported it, Brian Banks. When the accuser/liar outright admitted on the record (to a wire) she lied for money. That's malicious and there was a confession and someone actually served jail time for it.
Even cases where it's clear one party embellished (Shawn Oakman, Matt Araiza) I still err against it since it's he said, she said and the facts significantly favor one party but it's not an absolute.
Strongly disagree. That would make every victim scared to ever report something again if they think there's a risk of jail time (and a lengthy one) for not being able to prove assault.
There's one case of it ever that I would have supported it, Brian Banks. When the accuser/liar outright admitted on the record (to a wire) she lied for money. That's malicious and there was a confession and someone actually served jail time for it.
Even cases where it's clear one party embellished (Shawn Oakman, Matt Araiza) I still err against it since it's he said, she said and the facts significantly favor one party but it's not an absolute.
I prefer Taylor Swift's lyrics.Karma is coming for this girl "Syd" and for her boyfriend too. Karma is not nice. Karma also does not play fair and is unpredictable.
While I agree with you in theory, the reality is likely that the accuser has little or nothing, and the accusation was nothing more than an attempted shakedown.Their shouldn't be criminal penalties for lying about an assault, but there should be civil penalties.
Just because the hockey players weren't found guilty, doesn't mean the allegations were false.Look at those Canadian hockey player and Trev Bauer? They suffered real world consequences from false accusations.
The false accusers should suffer legal consequences .
I don’t buy the young and stupid defense. If you were a certain age, 18, and you drive drunk and kill someone to go to jail. If you get drunk, get into a fight and kill someone you go to jail there’s certain mistakes you can’t come back from and while this isn’t as drastic is a murder harming someone’s reputation out of spite and jealousy is a horrible thing to do, and if proven that your accusations were untrue and you knew it you should face legal consequences .
I'm old as dirt, at 61 I don't know any Taylor Swift lyrics...please enlighten me?I prefer Taylor Swift's lyrics.
You need to just shake it off. I know it's been a cruel summer for us fans but better days are ahead. Wrestling will be here in a fortnight give or take.I'm old as dirt, at 61 I don't know any Taylor Swift lyrics...please enlighten me?
'Cause karma is my boyfriendI'm old as dirt, at 61 I don't know any Taylor Swift lyrics...please enlighten me?
You need to just shake it off. I know it's been a cruel summer for us fans but better days are ahead. Wrestling will be here in a fortnight give or take.
In South carolina, tomato season is done in June. nice to pick them in April.Slow down.... lol... I haven't harvested a tomato yet and football is 27 days away.