Daily Collegian Article On Starrocci Allegations

[dicemen99]

The more this goes on - or actually doesn't really progress, just hangs around on the social media platform of one person in particular, the more I'm inclined to be of the opinion that Syd Bartlett is just a drama queen. Not talking about the alleged victims, mind you, who nobody but her and a 20-year-old kid at The Collegian has heard from. But Mrs. Bartlett seems to be the only one advancing this whole agenda aggressively. I'm not sure where she has been wronged, but she seems to be the one throwing around all of the accusations lately.

She also doesn't seem to be turned off by the attention she is getting for being brave enough to bring this out publicly and call for action. It seems to me that that should be the place of others involved at this point, which I don't see happening. Maybe it is, and I'll reserve my right to change my opinion in the future, but right now, the way this is going, I'll be surprised if anything comes of it.

Some of you are going to defend her - hey, that's your right - mostly because she's Beau's wife. But at this point she should just put up or shut up with her facts, rather than just hurling vague reputation assassinations, or shut up and leave it to the people who do have the facts.

I am speaking purely about the sexual misconduct stuff here - of which one incident, seems to a pretty thin accusation (brushed up against in a social situation, huh???) and the other has some real teeth to it, but is only coming to light long after the fact and after consultation with Mrs. Bartlett.

Sorry if this seems tone deaf in today's SJW climate, but that's just the way I see it now. But who knows, maybe Syd dollasign will turn out to be an intelligent, strong, powerful activist for women in the end, and I'll end up with egg on my face.

This isn't a defense of Carter, either. I've heard enough, and there's been enough smoke, to conclude that he likely is a d*ck to a lot of people, a misogynist, and maybe has some self-esteem issues that manifest in his actions. I'm not a fan of his whatsoever moving forward, and I'm glad we are cutting ties with him. But I'm not ready to say he's a felon yet, purely based on what's come out so far and who's driving it.

 

[Corby]

The more this goes on - or actually doesn't really progress, just hangs around on the social media platform of one person in particular, the more I'm inclined to be of the opinion that Syd Bartlett is just a drama queen. Not talking about the alleged victims, mind you, who nobody but her and a 20-year-old kid at The Collegian has heard from. But Mrs. Bartlett seems to be the only one advancing this whole agenda aggressively. I'm not sure where she has been wronged, but she seems to be the one throwing around all of the accusations lately.

She also doesn't seem to be turned off by the attention she is getting for being brave enough to bring this out publicly and call for action. It seems to me that that should be the place of others involved at this point, which I don't see happening. Maybe it is, and I'll reserve my right to change my opinion in the future, but right now, the way this is going, I'll be surprised if anything comes of it.

Some of you are going to defend her - hey, that's your right - mostly because she's Beau's wife. But at this point she should just put up or shut up with her facts, rather than just hurling vague reputation assassinations, or shut up and leave it to the people who do have the facts.

I am speaking purely about the sexual misconduct stuff here - of which one incident, seems to a pretty thin accusation (brushed up against in a social situation, huh???) and the other has some real teeth to it, but is only coming to light long after the fact and after consultation with Mrs. Bartlett.

Sorry if this seems tone deaf in today's SJW climate, but that's just the way I see it now. But who knows, maybe Syd dollasign will turn out to be an intelligent, strong, powerful activist for women in the end, and I'll end up with egg on my face.

This isn't a defense of Carter, either. I've heard enough, and there's been enough smoke, to conclude that he likely is a d*ck to a lot of people, a misogynist, and maybe has some self-esteem issues that manifest in his actions. I'm not a fan of his whatsoever moving forward, and I'm glad we are cutting ties with him. But I'm not ready to say he's a felon yet, purely based on what's come out so far and who's driving it.

Glad you're now innocent until proven guilty welcome to the club Dice . AJ will forgive you

 

[wrestlingfan22]

The more this goes on - or actually doesn't really progress, just hangs around on the social media platform of one person in particular, the more I'm inclined to be of the opinion that Syd Bartlett is just a drama queen. Not talking about the alleged victims, mind you, who nobody but her and a 20-year-old kid at The Collegian has heard from. But Mrs. Bartlett seems to be the only one advancing this whole agenda aggressively. I'm not sure where she has been wronged, but she seems to be the one throwing around all of the accusations lately.

She also doesn't seem to be turned off by the attention she is getting for being brave enough to bring this out publicly and call for action. It seems to me that that should be the place of others involved at this point, which I don't see happening. Maybe it is, and I'll reserve my right to change my opinion in the future, but right now, the way this is going, I'll be surprised if anything comes of it.

Some of you are going to defend her - hey, that's your right - mostly because she's Beau's wife. But at this point she should just put up or shut up with her facts, rather than just hurling vague reputation assassinations, or shut up and leave it to the people who do have the facts.

I am speaking purely about the sexual misconduct stuff here - of which one incident, seems to a pretty thin accusation (brushed up against in a social situation, huh???) and the other has some real teeth to it, but is only coming to light long after the fact and after consultation with Mrs. Bartlett.

Sorry if this seems tone deaf in today's SJW climate, but that's just the way I see it now. But who knows, maybe Syd dollasign will turn out to be an intelligent, strong, powerful activist for women in the end, and I'll end up with egg on my face.

This isn't a defense of Carter, either. I've heard enough, and there's been enough smoke, to conclude that he likely is a d*ck to a lot of people, a misogynist, and maybe has some self-esteem issues that manifest in his actions. I'm not a fan of his whatsoever moving forward, and I'm glad we are cutting ties with him. But I'm not ready to say he's a felon yet, purely based on what's come out so far and who's driving it.

I agree with you that she is not shy about the spotlight; she is a social media influencer and has no qualms about being in drama. I will say, however, that part of the reason we keep seeing her post about this is that other people keep talking about her. The number of people who have tried to paint this as Beau's wife making him do this or Beau's wife's crusade, when they seem completely united on this, has been ridiculous. Ideally, everyone would just wait for the facts as a whole, but as of right now, I am seeing lots of people say they want to wait for the facts about Carter/the staff while jumping to conclusions about Beau and Syd; that they then feel the need (justified or not) to defend themselves from.

Ideally, this is a situation that, in terms of public commentary, goes quiet for a while; these things take time. From Beau's initial post to the article was around a month, it will probably be a few weeks at least before any combination of further in-depth reporting, statements from those involved (or their lawyers), police/university investigation, or anything else important happens. Unfortunately, I think the next few weeks will be spent nitpicking everything/everyone (like originally happened with Beau's post), only for whatever the next major update is to shake things up. Until there is new information or a new statement, it will just be a lot of speculation from fans/haters/media that will have little to no benefit.

I think your position about Carter is about as reasonable as one can have. I agree he is likely a ****** person even if all these allegations are false. My approach is that anytime anyone is accused of something like this, I would rather be accused of not being supportive enough of them if the allegations are proven false, than supporting them through the allegations only for them to be proven true. Erring on the side of caution, so to speak.

 

[Corby]

Does Rec hall not have security after hours? How was he able to bring a female into the sauna and locker room? Seems like the university might've some questions to answer about that

 

[Psalm 1 guy]

Didn't this whole kerfuffle start with one post from Syd about her being glad the "good guy" won when Dake beat Carter? It is amazing how this all has developed.

 

[ElDuce]

Where is Carter's mug shot? Where is the arrest? Let's have something more concrete, then an angry girlfriend/wife and former onlyfans making allegations. AJ was arrested and charged with a felony, the accusing party dismissed the charges ($$$$$).

 

[wrestlingfan22]

Does Rec hall not have security after hours? How was he able to bring a female into the sauna and locker room? Seems like the university might've some questions to answer about that

From what I remember from the last time I was on campus (a few years ago and during the day), anyone with a card that opens the door can walk in. I was able to get in when someone held the door to Rec Hall open, and from there, I just walked into the LWC and IIRC was able to get into the hallway that is/was next to the recovery pools and right next to the wrestling room. If I was more bold/disrespectful (and if there weren't NLWC/other athletes there), I want to say I could have just walked right into the empty wrestling room and started working out.

I know at other schools, the athletes can get into the rooms whenever (if the building is open) because they are given cards/passes or whatever to get anywhere they might need to go to train/recover/whatever on their own.

 

[Hotshoe]

The more this goes on - or actually doesn't really progress, just hangs around on the social media platform of one person in particular, the more I'm inclined to be of the opinion that Syd Bartlett is just a drama queen. Not talking about the alleged victims, mind you, who nobody but her and a 20-year-old kid at The Collegian has heard from. But Mrs. Bartlett seems to be the only one advancing this whole agenda aggressively. I'm not sure where she has been wronged, but she seems to be the one throwing around all of the accusations lately.

She also doesn't seem to be turned off by the attention she is getting for being brave enough to bring this out publicly and call for action. It seems to me that that should be the place of others involved at this point, which I don't see happening. Maybe it is, and I'll reserve my right to change my opinion in the future, but right now, the way this is going, I'll be surprised if anything comes of it.

Some of you are going to defend her - hey, that's your right - mostly because she's Beau's wife. But at this point she should just put up or shut up with her facts, rather than just hurling vague reputation assassinations, or shut up and leave it to the people who do have the facts.

I am speaking purely about the sexual misconduct stuff here - of which one incident, seems to a pretty thin accusation (brushed up against in a social situation, huh???) and the other has some real teeth to it, but is only coming to light long after the fact and after consultation with Mrs. Bartlett.

Sorry if this seems tone deaf in today's SJW climate, but that's just the way I see it now. But who knows, maybe Syd dollasign will turn out to be an intelligent, strong, powerful activist for women in the end, and I'll end up with egg on my face.

This isn't a defense of Carter, either. I've heard enough, and there's been enough smoke, to conclude that he likely is a d*ck to a lot of people, a misogynist, and maybe has some self-esteem issues that manifest in his actions. I'm not a fan of his whatsoever moving forward, and I'm glad we are cutting ties with him. But I'm not ready to say he's a felon yet, purely based on what's come out so far and who's driving it.

There's clearly bad blood here. When there is, one is usually best advised to stay off of social media. It turns nasty very quickly. Syd doesn't appear to be winning many friends in the wrestling community, and that's Beau's world.
This should have stayed behind closed doors and dealt with through the police if this stuff really happened.

 

[dicemen99]

I agree with you that she is not shy about the spotlight; she is a social media influencer and has no qualms about being in drama. I will say, however, that part of the reason we keep seeing her post about this is that other people keep talking about her. The number of people who have tried to paint this as Beau's wife making him do this or Beau's wife's crusade, when they seem completely united on this, has been ridiculous. Ideally, everyone would just wait for the facts as a whole, but as of right now, I am seeing lots of people say they want to wait for the facts about Carter/the staff while jumping to conclusions about Beau and Syd; that they then feel the need (justified or not) to defend themselves from.

Ideally, this is a situation that, in terms of public commentary, goes quiet for a while; these things take time. From Beau's initial post to the article was around a month, it will probably be a few weeks at least before any combination of further in-depth reporting, statements from those involved (or their lawyers), police/university investigation, or anything else important happens. Unfortunately, I think the next few weeks will be spent nitpicking everything/everyone (like originally happened with Beau's post), only for whatever the next major update is to shake things up. Until there is new information or a new statement, it will just be a lot of speculation from fans/haters/media that will have little to no benefit.

I think your position about Carter is about as reasonable as one can have. I agree he is likely a ****** person even if all these allegations are false. My approach is that anytime anyone is accused of something like this, I would rather be accused of not being supportive enough of them if the allegations are proven false, than supporting them through the allegations only for them to be proven true. Erring on the side of caution, so to speak.

I am not separating Beau from his wife in this. They are obviously united on this. I have my opinions on his statements as well.

But their approach is much different. Syd has been very aggressive in her approach to the issue, while Beau has been much more conservative. I don't think there is any debate about that.

 

[JoeBagobagels]

The more this goes on - or actually doesn't really progress, just hangs around on the social media platform of one person in particular, the more I'm inclined to be of the opinion that Syd Bartlett is just a drama queen. Not talking about the alleged victims, mind you, who nobody but her and a 20-year-old kid at The Collegian has heard from. But Mrs. Bartlett seems to be the only one advancing this whole agenda aggressively. I'm not sure where she has been wronged, but she seems to be the one throwing around all of the accusations lately.

She also doesn't seem to be turned off by the attention she is getting for being brave enough to bring this out publicly and call for action. It seems to me that that should be the place of others involved at this point, which I don't see happening. Maybe it is, and I'll reserve my right to change my opinion in the future, but right now, the way this is going, I'll be surprised if anything comes of it.

Some of you are going to defend her - hey, that's your right - mostly because she's Beau's wife. But at this point she should just put up or shut up with her facts, rather than just hurling vague reputation assassinations, or shut up and leave it to the people who do have the facts.

I am speaking purely about the sexual misconduct stuff here - of which one incident, seems to a pretty thin accusation (brushed up against in a social situation, huh???) and the other has some real teeth to it, but is only coming to light long after the fact and after consultation with Mrs. Bartlett.

Sorry if this seems tone deaf in today's SJW climate, but that's just the way I see it now. But who knows, maybe Syd dollasign will turn out to be an intelligent, strong, powerful activist for women in the end, and I'll end up with egg on my face.

This isn't a defense of Carter, either. I've heard enough, and there's been enough smoke, to conclude that he likely is a d*ck to a lot of people, a misogynist, and maybe has some self-esteem issues that manifest in his actions. I'm not a fan of his whatsoever moving forward, and I'm glad we are cutting ties with him. But I'm not ready to say he's a felon yet, purely based on what's come out so far and who's driving it.

Ran all of this by my wife and she would agree with you. Not that she knows wrestling, it's that she knows women and the games they play. Carter can be a pig and she can be a drama queen. She does not believe the SA allegations, she said that if she is placing herself alone with a guy where it can happen, she is open to it happening. What confirms her suspicions is the timing of everything.

She is very sympathetic to actual victims, she was one, her sister was one, and I actually had a situation where an older man tried something with me. We hate liars and crafted social media attacks. I handled my stuff and he backed down. I did not tell my father because I was concerned he'd kill the guy and I'd lose dad. My wife was a child and it was a neighbor. When she told her dad he roughed him up and told him he better never see him again. Allegedly he had actually killed someone. He tried to run my wife over with his truck after that but then quickly left town.

Her sister didn't report her assault. She wasn't as streetwise as my wife and did invite the guy over, so yes you can find yourself alone and be assaulted. However she had just met him.

I'm of the strong opinion that this is an orchestrated hit piece. FWIW I talked to another officer today at lunch, In his opinion SA allegations are usually false. Again.

 

[JoeBagobagels]

The more this goes on - or actually doesn't really progress, just hangs around on the social media platform of one person in particular, the more I'm inclined to be of the opinion that Syd Bartlett is just a drama queen. Not talking about the alleged victims, mind you, who nobody but her and a 20-year-old kid at The Collegian has heard from. But Mrs. Bartlett seems to be the only one advancing this whole agenda aggressively. I'm not sure where she has been wronged, but she seems to be the one throwing around all of the accusations lately.

She also doesn't seem to be turned off by the attention she is getting for being brave enough to bring this out publicly and call for action. It seems to me that that should be the place of others involved at this point, which I don't see happening. Maybe it is, and I'll reserve my right to change my opinion in the future, but right now, the way this is going, I'll be surprised if anything comes of it.

Some of you are going to defend her - hey, that's your right - mostly because she's Beau's wife. But at this point she should just put up or shut up with her facts, rather than just hurling vague reputation assassinations, or shut up and leave it to the people who do have the facts.

I am speaking purely about the sexual misconduct stuff here - of which one incident, seems to a pretty thin accusation (brushed up against in a social situation, huh???) and the other has some real teeth to it, but is only coming to light long after the fact and after consultation with Mrs. Bartlett.

Sorry if this seems tone deaf in today's SJW climate, but that's just the way I see it now. But who knows, maybe Syd dollasign will turn out to be an intelligent, strong, powerful activist for women in the end, and I'll end up with egg on my face.

This isn't a defense of Carter, either. I've heard enough, and there's been enough smoke, to conclude that he likely is a d*ck to a lot of people, a misogynist, and maybe has some self-esteem issues that manifest in his actions. I'm not a fan of his whatsoever moving forward, and I'm glad we are cutting ties with him. But I'm not ready to say he's a felon yet, purely based on what's come out so far and who's driving it.

I myself have had my *** grabbed, crotch grabbed and chest fondled by drunk women. Talk to Scott/Irish guys who sometimes wear kilts and get their stories, women would never tolerate a crotch grab or flipping their skirt up. The incident you mentioned is something so many people blow off and leads me to the assumption of BS in this matter.

 

[JVP_Yahweh]

Beau's wife seems like the Meghan Markle of college wrestling. I don't like her at all

 

[Locopsu]

The more this goes on - or actually doesn't really progress, just hangs around on the social media platform of one person in particular, the more I'm inclined to be of the opinion that Syd Bartlett is just a drama queen. Not talking about the alleged victims, mind you, who nobody but her and a 20-year-old kid at The Collegian has heard from. But Mrs. Bartlett seems to be the only one advancing this whole agenda aggressively. I'm not sure where she has been wronged, but she seems to be the one throwing around all of the accusations lately.

She also doesn't seem to be turned off by the attention she is getting for being brave enough to bring this out publicly and call for action. It seems to me that that should be the place of others involved at this point, which I don't see happening. Maybe it is, and I'll reserve my right to change my opinion in the future, but right now, the way this is going, I'll be surprised if anything comes of it.

Some of you are going to defend her - hey, that's your right - mostly because she's Beau's wife. But at this point she should just put up or shut up with her facts, rather than just hurling vague reputation assassinations, or shut up and leave it to the people who do have the facts.

I am speaking purely about the sexual misconduct stuff here - of which one incident, seems to a pretty thin accusation (brushed up against in a social situation, huh???) and the other has some real teeth to it, but is only coming to light long after the fact and after consultation with Mrs. Bartlett.

Sorry if this seems tone deaf in today's SJW climate, but that's just the way I see it now. But who knows, maybe Syd dollasign will turn out to be an intelligent, strong, powerful activist for women in the end, and I'll end up with egg on my face.

This isn't a defense of Carter, either. I've heard enough, and there's been enough smoke, to conclude that he likely is a d*ck to a lot of people, a misogynist, and maybe has some self-esteem issues that manifest in his actions. I'm not a fan of his whatsoever moving forward, and I'm glad we are cutting ties with him. But I'm not ready to say he's a felon yet, purely based on what's come out so far and who's driving it.

I’ll bite. Loco likes a good scrap. Not really. Sounded good. I hung around refreshing constantly during JS and IMO this is not that and is similar in that we will likely have to wait awhile to get some semblance of facts. As for your comments on Mrs Bartlet, I’ll also give a wait and see as more facts come out. Victims in these situations rarely have a champion, she IMO is trying to be that and sound the horn about a pattern of behavior. What that means for Cael et al, I have my doubts he did anything w/o more senior approval.

 

[El_Jefe]

I agree with you that she is not shy about the spotlight; she is a social media influencer and has no qualms about being in drama. I will say, however, that part of the reason we keep seeing her post about this is that other people keep talking about her. The number of people who have tried to paint this as Beau's wife making him do this or Beau's wife's crusade, when they seem completely united on this, has been ridiculous. Ideally, everyone would just wait for the facts as a whole, but as of right now, I am seeing lots of people say they want to wait for the facts about Carter/the staff while jumping to conclusions about Beau and Syd; that they then feel the need (justified or not) to defend themselves from.

Ideally, this is a situation that, in terms of public commentary, goes quiet for a while; these things take time. From Beau's initial post to the article was around a month, it will probably be a few weeks at least before any combination of further in-depth reporting, statements from those involved (or their lawyers), police/university investigation, or anything else important happens. Unfortunately, I think the next few weeks will be spent nitpicking everything/everyone (like originally happened with Beau's post), only for whatever the next major update is to shake things up. Until there is new information or a new statement, it will just be a lot of speculation from fans/haters/media that will have little to no benefit.

I think your position about Carter is about as reasonable as one can have. I agree he is likely a ****** person even if all these allegations are false. My approach is that anytime anyone is accused of something like this, I would rather be accused of not being supportive enough of them if the allegations are proven false, than supporting them through the allegations only for them to be proven true. Erring on the side of caution, so to speak.

She has the option of playing the long game: not responding to every internet rando, and not venting her spleen at those in the industry who have questions about what happened (even if those questions can be kinda crass).

But apparently not the ability.

 

[El_Jefe]

From what I remember from the last time I was on campus (a few years ago and during the day), anyone with a card that opens the door can walk in. I was able to get in when someone held the door to Rec Hall open, and from there, I just walked into the LWC and IIRC was able to get into the hallway that is/was next to the recovery pools and right next to the wrestling room. If I was more bold/disrespectful (and if there weren't NLWC/other athletes there), I want to say I could have just walked right into the empty wrestling room and started working out.

I know at other schools, the athletes can get into the rooms whenever (if the building is open) because they are given cards/passes or whatever to get anywhere they might need to go to train/recover/whatever on their own.

I'm so old, I remember AJ Ferrari lifting regularly in the Iowa athletics facility without being a student.

 

[PennState1985]

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[PASLP2]

I feel this is BB talking to his friend

 

[Nitlion1986]

No, about the multiple wrestlers (some of whom may be current wrestlers for all we know) accusing Starocci of a variety of forms of sexual misconduct, and that at least one of them specifically reported the sexual misconduct to the coaching staff.

One known former student athlete and his spouse initiating and perpetuating accusations that appear to presently being thrown against a growing circle of people, and in a very public, one way manner.
Several John and Jane Does who may or may not exist, but seem to have very little if any interest in playing public spit ball.

 

[Corneliuswonder]

One known former student athlete and his spouse initiating and perpetuating accusations that appear to presently being thrown against a growing circle of people, and in a very public, one way manner.
Several John and Jane Does who may or may not exist, but seem to have very little if any interest in playing public spit ball.

“Who may or may not exist”? Are you suggesting that the multiple people who the Collegian spoke with were made up out of thin air?

 

[JoeBagobagels]

One known former student athlete and his spouse initiating and perpetuating accusations that appear to presently being thrown against a growing circle of people, and in a very public, one way manner.
Several John and Jane Does who may or may not exist, but seem to have very little if any interest in playing public spit ball.

Without going into the weeds on the Sandusky case, you see there’s a huge difference with this. It appears you have a scorched earth campaign because someone believes things weren’t happening properly.

And as I said before, in regards to things I’ve had happened to me, you do not always get justice. You could believe you’re in the right as much as possible but the one the law gets involved. It doesn’t really appear to give a crap.

 

[JoeBagobagels]

“Who may or may not exist”? Are you suggesting that the multiple people who the Collegian spoke with were made up out of thin air?

That is possible . It is also possible it’s exaggerated , a complete lie, or all true.

I could go on for a long period of time on how little I respect journalists.

 

[Lyons212]

There's clearly bad blood here. When there is, one is usually best advised to stay off of social media. It turns nasty very quickly. Syd doesn't appear to be winning many friends in the wrestling community, and that's Beau's world.
This should have stayed behind closed doors and dealt with through the police if this stuff really happened.

If Beau wants to coach, the wrestling world will not forget this episode. Other school's fans are having fun piling on right now, deep down, they would not be happy if the wife of a former wrestler is on social media trashing the program. Good luck Beau, you have severely harmed your standing in the wrestling community and pretty much nuked almost all of your PSU networking opportunities over innuendo.

 

[Lyons212]

I myself have had my *** grabbed, crotch grabbed and chest fondled by drunk women. Talk to Scott/Irish guys who sometimes wear kilts and get their stories, women would never tolerate a crotch grab or flipping their skirt up. The incident you mentioned is something so many people blow off and leads me to the assumption of BS in this matter.

I once went to an MLB baseball game and haven't been groped like that since my high school wrestling days.

 

[Locopsu]

I'm so old, I remember AJ Ferrari lifting regularly in the Iowa athletics facility without being a student.

I’m so old I remember when you needed a key to open a door.

 

[AgSurfer]

I myself have had my *** grabbed, crotch grabbed and chest fondled by drunk women.

And were you offended by these incidents?

 

[PSU Mike]

There are some wild takes in here. Taking care of your own condition might be a better use of your time.

 

[PSUPetch]

I’m so old I remember when you needed a key to open a door.

I’m so old I remember when you needed to use a rotary phone to talk to friends about Iowa’s NCAA wrestling championship run.

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

Does Rec hall not have security after hours? How was he able to bring a female into the sauna and locker room? Seems like the university might've some questions to answer about that

How do you know this actually happened? You're taking third-party hearsay as gospel - as a result, it is difficult - actually impossible - to answer your question other than to say - yes, the facility has security systems and access is restricted... but you have no way of knowing if C* violated security rules.

 

[AgSurfer]

I’m so old I remember when you needed to use a rotary phone to talk to friends about Iowa’s NCAA wrestling championship run.

Hah! I'm so old, I remember when you picked up a rotary phone to make a call and you had to wait because you were tied into a party line!

 

[WexfordWarrior]

Hah! I'm so old, I remember when you picked up a rotary phone to make a call and you had to wait because you were tied into a party line!

 

[Corneliuswonder]

How do you know this actually happened? You're taking third-party hearsay as gospel - as a result, it is difficult - actually impossible - to answer your question other than to say - yes, the facility has security systems and access is restricted... but you have no way of knowing if C* violated security rules.

It’s not hearsay at all, and it’s not even third party. The woman herself directly claimed to the Collegian that it occurred. The information might be incorrect and it may or may not have actually occurred, but someone talking about their own personal experiences is neither hearsay nor third-party.

 

[Corby]

How do you know this actually happened? You're taking third-party hearsay as gospel - as a result, it is difficult - actually impossible - to answer your question other than to say - yes, the facility has security systems and access is restricted... but you have no way of knowing if C* violated security rules.

Not sure you understand what 3rd party hearsay means . The girl said she was in the sauna that's not "3rd party". I don't know if it happened or not but if it did I was curious about security. How do you know it didn't happen?

 

[Anon1683312534]

It’s not hearsay at all, and it’s not even third party. The woman herself directly claimed to the Collegian that it occurred. The information might be incorrect and it may or may not have actually occurred, but someone talking about their own personal experiences is neither hearsay nor third-party.

What is this only fans site?

 

[Corneliuswonder]

What is this only fans site?

Is this English?

 

[CarolinaFan1]

Not sure you understand what 3rd party hearsay means . The girl said she was in the sauna that's not "3rd party". I don't know if it happened or not but if it did I was curious about security. How do you know it didn't happen?

Generally in PA, alleged statements from a third party reported by a reporter are hearsay. The reporters account of the statements are not permissible evidence with few exceptions. So the statements from the alleged victims of SA in the article are hearsay. Additionally, the Bartletts statements about what they heard from other people which were then restated by the reporter are double hearsay.

 

[JoeBagobagels]

Generally in PA, alleged statements from a third party reported by a reporter are hearsay. The reporters account of the statements are not permissible evidence with few exceptions. So the statements from the alleged victims of SA in the article are hearsay. Additionally, the Bartletts statements about what they heard from other people which were then restated by the reporter are double hearsay.

You are correct, again report the crime or don't say something.

 

[JoeBagobagels]

And were you offended by these incidents?

I was less offended as their perceived attractiveness increased. Like most people.

 

[JoeBagobagels]

If Beau wants to coach, the wrestling world will not forget this episode. Other school's fans are having fun piling on right now, deep down, they would not be happy if the wife of a former wrestler is on social media trashing the program. Good luck Beau, you have severely harmed your standing in the wrestling community and pretty much nuked almost all of your PSU networking opportunities over innuendo.

Very true.

 

[Corneliuswonder]

Generally in PA, alleged statements from a third party reported by a reporter are hearsay. The reporters account of the statements are not permissible evidence with few exceptions. So the statements from the alleged victims of SA in the article are hearsay. Additionally, the Bartletts statements about what they heard from other people which were then restated by the reporter are double hearsay.

Why would anyone be trying to use a newspaper article as evidence in a hypothetical court proceeding instead of, you know, just having the woman testify herself?

Of course trying to submit nothing more than the Collegian article into evidence would be thrown out, but that would be an absurd strategy for a collection of reasons.

 

[CarolinaFan1]

Why would anyone be trying to use a newspaper article as evidence in a hypothetical court proceeding instead of, you know, just having the woman testify herself?

Of course trying to submit nothing more than the Collegian article into evidence would be thrown out, but that would be an absurd strategy for a collection of reasons.

You’re the one that said the statements aren’t hearsay. That is just wrong. That’s why you don’t adjudicate matters like this in a newspaper. If they want their say, go file a formal complaint.