Dak's Pitbull bit someone...

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CochiseCowbell

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1) Fighting through a fence?
2) What did the, apparently gender-nuetral, resident do to intervene?
 

blacklistedbully

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So let me see if I've got this right. Dak has a fenced yard. While Dak is away, somehow the dogs escape the fenced yard on their own, go to the neighbors front yard where they start to "fight" with his dog who is safe behind a fence, yet the neighbor decides the smart thing to do is call the police...then decide he has to go outside to, "break up the fight" even though his own dog is safely ensconced behind his fence. Upon deciding to leave the safety of his home and interjecting him/herself in between the dogs all worked up barking at each other through the fence, said neighbor unexpectedly gets bitten by one of the dogs he/she decided to get between even though his/her own dog was safe behind their fence.

That about right? If so, the neighbor ought to pay a fine for being off-the-charts stupid, or someone should try to find out who may have opened the gate to let those dogs out.
 

LanierDawg

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The reporter Erin Jones is sorta hot. Dog bites are typically covered under homeowner liability policies, except sometimes pit bulls could be excluded, especially if Dak failed to notify the insurer he owned a dog of that breed. But either way Dak gone be aight!!
 

Junction John

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Let me ask you experts a question: why does anyone own a pit bull?

All I ever hear about them is vicious attacks, they can't be controlled, etc. So why get one - is it a status symbol? Are they so fun, cool, or awesome that it's worth the risk?

I'm asking seriously. A girl I know has one, but she's a crackhead, so that makes sense. I'm just wondering why an average walking-around law-abiding citizen would get one.
 
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It's not the breed, it's the owner. Crappy owners have crappy dogs. I know several people with pits and the dogs are well behaved.
 
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It's not the breed, it's the owner. Crappy owners have crappy dogs. I know several people with pits and the dogs are well behaved.

Tell your this to the lady in my hometown who was mauled to death by the pitbull this fine family had raised from a puppy. This breed has a "kill switch" no other breed has. People like you I call "Dog fools" who don't know the difference between an animal and a person.
 

hatfieldms

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Just because you have run across a few that are well behaved doesn’t mean all are that are “raised right”. The fact that damn near every person killed from a dog comes from pit bulls is enough reasons not own one.
 

dorndawg

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Don't dare let facts get in your way of badmouthing a good breed of dog.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5521144/

[h=3]Table 1[/h]Sample sizes and incident percentages for dog breeds reported for dog bites in order of frequency for medium and large breeds[SUP]a[/SUP]


Breed (Non-legislated)IncidentsBreed (Legislated)Incidents
n(%)n(%)
Border Collie26(18.5)German Shepherd28(20)
Labrador Retriever14(10)Rottweiler6(4.2)
Cocker Spaniel5(3.5)American Staffordshire Terrier3(2.1)
Shetland Sheepdog5(3.5)Akita2(1.4)
Boxer4(2.8)Doberman Pinscher1(0.7)
English Springer Spaniel4(2.8)
Golden Retriever4(2.8)
Irish Red Setter4(2.8)
Poodle4(2.8)
Rough Collie3(2.1)
Scottish terrier3(2.1)
Beagle2(1.4)
Welsh Terrier2(1.4)
Bearded Collie1(0.7)
Black and Tan Hound1(0.7)
Bulldog1(0.7)
Chesapeake Bay Retriever1(0.7)
Clumber Spaniel1(0.7)
English Pointer1(0.7)
Foxhound1(0.7)
German Shorthaired Pointer1(0.7)
Greyhound1(0.7)
Irish Terrier1(0.7)
Leonberger1(0.7)
Old Danish Pointer1(0.7)

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Shmuley

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This cannot be stated as a categorical fact. Many policies do not have breed-specific exclusions.
 

Hump4Hoops

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That's the big takeaway. Many dogs are well behaved, many are not.

That's true across breeds. Temperament varies not just by breed, but also dog to dog. If your dumb-*** pomeranian goes Cujo on me, I'm going to be fine. If your pit, GSD, or rottie has a go at me, I'll probably end up in the emergency room.

I'd recon there's a lot more poorly behaved little 10 lb **** dogs that their owners don't even try to train, than there are poorly behaved pits, but pits do a LOT more damage. It's not a pooly behaved breed by nature, just a stronger one, so when **** goes bad, it goes bad.
 

WhiteShepherd07

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Btw, that data in respect to the German Shepherd at least is going to use police bite statistics. Meaning if the police deployed a k9 on a criminal and it bites then those numbers are included below.

Don't dare let facts get in your way of badmouthing a good breed of dog.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5521144/

[h=3]Table 1[/h]Sample sizes and incident percentages for dog breeds reported for dog bites in order of frequency for medium and large breeds[SUP]a[/SUP]


Breed (Non-legislated)IncidentsBreed (Legislated)Incidents
n(%)n(%)
Border Collie26(18.5)German Shepherd28(20)
Labrador Retriever14(10)Rottweiler6(4.2)
Cocker Spaniel5(3.5)American Staffordshire Terrier3(2.1)
Shetland Sheepdog5(3.5)Akita2(1.4)
Boxer4(2.8)Doberman Pinscher1(0.7)
English Springer Spaniel4(2.8)
Golden Retriever4(2.8)
Irish Red Setter4(2.8)
Poodle4(2.8)
Rough Collie3(2.1)
Scottish terrier3(2.1)
Beagle2(1.4)
Welsh Terrier2(1.4)
Bearded Collie1(0.7)
Black and Tan Hound1(0.7)
Bulldog1(0.7)
Chesapeake Bay Retriever1(0.7)
Clumber Spaniel1(0.7)
English Pointer1(0.7)
Foxhound1(0.7)
German Shorthaired Pointer1(0.7)
Greyhound1(0.7)
Irish Terrier1(0.7)
Leonberger1(0.7)
Old Danish Pointer1(0.7)

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thekimmer

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I agree with you but..

It's not the breed, it's the owner. Crappy owners have crappy dogs. I know several people with pits and the dogs are well behaved.

When you have a crappy owner and by default a crappy pitbull the consequences are far more likely to result in a very bad outcome due to the size, strength, and temperament of the breed.

I have met many pits who were wonderful, loving, loyal, well-behaved animals and I am sure for dog bites due to sheer numbers there are far more among many other breeds but not all dog attacks are the same.

In human terms people sometimes have disagreements and lose control but the difference is like having a 145 lb librarian go off on you vs a 210 lb MMA fighter.
 
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Junction John

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Downvoting my question... thank you Mr. Helper

 
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WhiteShepherd07

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Just like there are bad people, there are bad dogs in this world too. I’m of the belief that most of the blame is to fall on the owner, however it’s through breeding practices.

There’s so much back yard breeding going on today that’s come from “inbreeding” for certain looks. Especially in the terrier breed, as well as the Shepherd breed. This inbreeding creates nervousness, instability, and unclear minds in the dog. Which yes ultimately result in the dog biting someone if it’s not controlled or managed.

Dogs should be bred for their working capabilities instead, which creates a much more stable mindset.
 

dorndawg

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Yeah I think it's reasonable to say they're not for everyone. Neither are border collies. If you don't want a pittie by all means don't get one.
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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Let me ask you experts a question: why does anyone own a pit bull?

All I ever hear about them is vicious attacks, they can't be controlled, etc. So why get one - is it a status symbol? Are they so fun, cool, or awesome that it's worth the risk?

I'm asking seriously. A girl I know has one, but she's a crackhead, so that makes sense. I'm just wondering why an average walking-around law-abiding citizen would get one.

Because people are afraid of them and they get off having a dog that scares the **** out of people.
 

thekimmer

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Just like there are bad people, there are bad dogs in this world too. I’m of the belief that most of the blame is to fall on the owner, however it’s through breeding practices.

There’s so much back yard breeding going on today that’s come from “inbreeding” for certain looks. Especially in the terrier breed, as well as the Shepherd breed. This inbreeding creates nervousness, instability, and unclear minds in the dog. Which yes ultimately result in the dog biting someone if it’s not controlled or managed.

Dogs should be bred for their working capabilities instead, which creates a much more stable mindset.

Agreed but the 'work' that pits were bred for is what makes them so much more dangerous.
 

dorndawg

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If you walk around expecting to be killed, I'd suggest staying inside. Probably consider getting rid of your internet connection as well, just to be on the safe side.
 

thekimmer

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Just like there are bad people, there are bad dogs in this world too. I’m of the belief that most of the blame is to fall on the owner, however it’s through breeding practices.

There’s so much back yard breeding going on today that’s come from “inbreeding” for certain looks. Especially in the terrier breed, as well as the Shepherd breed. This inbreeding creates nervousness, instability, and unclear minds in the dog. Which yes ultimately result in the dog biting someone if it’s not controlled or managed.

Dogs should be bred for their working capabilities instead, which creates a much more stable mindset.

For the record, I am not in favor of breed bans but I do believe that owners of any animal must be held financially and if necessary criminally responsible for anything that animal does. If you own a jack Russell the chances are that the worst that will happen is a few holes in someone's yard. If you own a pit or a rot the worst could be someone's life. If you own an animal with that physical capability then you assume the risk. If you don't have the financial ability to pay for damages caused by your animal then you should never be allowed to ever own another animal. If they seriously maim or kill someone you should face criminal charges.
 
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Where's the Chihuahua? I had one that would 17 you up!

My best friend had a pit that was a big baby and jump in my lap or tackle me running through the yard but never, ever tried to bite anyone.

Now if it saw a cat, that little meower was dead.
 
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