Damn Saints.. Peter King's on Dan Patrick Show just said

[57stratdawg]

During that NFC Championship game against Minn, a Saint's player came off the field after a low hit on Farve and said "Pay me my money!"

He said that Farve asked Sharper during that game "Sharp, what are you guys trying to do?" Said that Childress sent 8 plays to the NFL the day after that game of plays that should have been flagged.

He said Lomus and Peyton were in "serious trouble".

 

[DerHntr]

This could get really ugly.

 

[Dawghouse]

As an NFL fan I think this is being blown out of proportion. This is a common occurance in football (trying to take out a wounded player or their best player). Having it sanctioned by the coach is a different animal and the coach/upper management should be penalized for endorsing and encouraging it.
I think you ban Williams as a coach or at least suspend him for a year, fine the Saints a couple million, and maybe take away a 2nd rounder if any picks at all.<div>
</div><div>As a Falcons fan, I hope it takes the Saints decades to recover from whatever penalties are enforced.<div>
</div><div>that is all</div></div>

 

[klerushund]

...is violent. The Saints enjoyed an advantage later in the game because Favre was worrying about hits. Every defensive coordinator in the world wants his players to have that advantage. There's no way to legislate that out of the game.<div>
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[KingBarkus]

The Wall Street Journal analyzed injuries in the Saints ball games over the past 3 years and concluded 5 plays may have warranted a
bounty payment. Of those 5, only 1 was flagged. There were no cart-offs and no season ending injuries.

]http://online.wsj.com/art...d#articleTabs%3Darticle]


The evidence to warrant the biggest punishment in the history of the NFL is not there. Yeah, I understand people will argue the plan was still in place and sanctioned by the coaching staff and the GM. I would argue the execution of the plan is more damaging. Take the Steelers. When Ryan Clark launched himself into a WR running a seam route causing a serious injury, the coaching staff lauded his play the following week in team meetings. Goodell got wind of it and ordered Tomlin on the carpet. Tomlin was dressed down and fined. Nothing like that happened in 3 seasons under Gregg Williams.

 

[lazlow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPgYKVO_1DE

 

[sardis]

The only other game I've ever seen where the OB was hit so much was last year's Ark/Bama game where they seemed to hit Tyler Wilson every play. I wondered then if they said, let's hit the QB, see if they call it as there was lots of almost late plays in both games.

 

[llmsudawg]

nm

 

[slickdawg]

and keep his job, Peyton should be fine. Encouraging players to knock other players asses into the ground is one thing, but being a super bowl championship caliber team and still secretly filming other teams is an all time low.

 

[MemphisMaroonClubDog]

I heard this mentioned yesterday about the issues that they will have for paying the players "under the table" or outside of the CBA and salary cap...

I think this goes on everywhere but it will be an issue that the NFL feels they need to nip in the bud immediately</p>

 

[maroonmania]

you can't legislate what individual players decide to do on their own to a player (or players) on the opposing team as far as trying to injure someone but you sure as heck can have the penalties severe enough to discourage any organized behavior by players or especially coaches that would financially or in any other way incentivize the intentional cheap shot or injuring of an opposing targeted player. Individual players have taken cheap shots for ages, and always will, but I do believe the NFL will try to do whatever it needs to through punishment of teams and through the players union to eliminate this as much as possible when its organized. Yes, its a game, but for the guys playing in the NFL its also their meal ticket. There needs to be something done when a player on one team is being incentivized to END THE CAREER of a player on an opposing team. I believe a lot will be done on this through the player's union. There has already been a LOT of criticism toward Drew Brees as the player rep on the Saints apparently knowing about this and neither reporting nor discouraging it. If it is common practice in the NFL, and I don't know if it is or not, I don't think it will be for much longer.

 

[57stratdawg]

I'd guess you'll see Payton suspended 4 games. It'll be interesting to see how the suspensions work. Will Payton be allowed to be around the team for training camp, etc.

The Saints will lose a 1st round pick - at least one. That's where you really hurt teams. $500K is nothing, but take the 2013 first and second round pick - that could be brutual. </p>

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

By the collective bargaining agreement. They can also claim its a violation of salary cap rules.

 

[GloryDawg]

The punishment will look harsh but in reality it will not be. The coach and the GM might get hit with a heavy fine and suspended for a few games but the NFL is all about money and they are not going to cut off their nose to spike their face.

 

[lawdawg02]

cut off their nose to spike their face.

/clever pun**

 

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Man, that's really 17'd up, ain't it. The labor has agreed that incentivizing injuring each other is a bad thing, yet some members chose to pursue the rewards. Can you imagine this scenario applied to a REAL labor union?