Dampier Jr
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He's a sophomore. I watched him last night against Jackson Prep. Impressive. Curious if he'll transfer out of MRA after this year since Duease is retiring.
Throw bags of cash and beg Sr to put in a good word for us.
Let's get a new coach now who can develop big men.
The NBA can develop big men. “Development” in college basketball has been dead for 30 years.
If Sr isn’t already a donor, we don’t stand a chance.
That's one of the problems with today's basketball. Development is part of coaching, or at least it should be.
Our practice facility is “Rula-Dampier Court”
Tolu is on the Pistons active roster…
Get Hubbard on him. If he wants to follow in Dads footsteps, he could become a legend.
He could re-classify but as of now, class of ‘28. I give MSU less than a 1% chance.
I can hear it now..."He wanted to blaze his own trail."
What? According to the armchair John Woodens on this board, Tolu sucked.
Players can, and do, develop in college. That should be obvious.
Not all develop as much as others, for various reasons. Lower ceiling, late bloomer, not given a chance, etc etc.
But players develop in college- all positions and player types.
Or was it Brooks? Kidding and stirring the pot, but also prove it wasn't.
Kinda tough to assign credit from afar and without a clear statement from Tolu on his thoughts.
His dad is a pretty smart and conservative dude. Word was he didn't lead the typical NBA lifestyle. Lived modestly for what he was making.
I looked it up a while back, but I think he made north of $80 million in NBA pay.
I looked it up a while back, but I think he made north of $80 million in NBA pay.
Or maybe the coach responsible for developing him sucked and now that he has received training he is being developed like he should have been several years ago? Just a thought....
It is at schools that are actually good. Duke, NC, Gonzaga, all make their players better.
Which sucky coach are you referring to? Howland, the coach of multiple Final Four appearances (albeit somewhere else) or Chris Jans, the only MSU coach to make the tournament his first three years?
Spend more $$$ than the others and hope pops helps nudge things in the right direction. Otherwise, he prolly aint coming
Based on what is basically seventh hand information, his parents will do what is best for their child but what is best for their child will not be what money he can make in NIL or what money he can make period.
probably helps make it more likely we get him than if they had the more common attitude but doesn’t give us much of an inside track.
If the parents do what is best for the child, they let the child make the decision without pressuring him any direction. Period.
They can inform him of pros and cons in each scenario, of course. But they shouldn’t be making the decision for him.
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Without knowing the young man, I wouldn't feel like I could say the best course is always to let them make a big decision with no pressure one way or another from parents. Some younguns are more fully formed than others and a solid parent understands where a little more push might be needed.
Different strokes.
The only people that think Jans “sucks” are Mississippi State fans incapable of appreciating his first 4 years here yes even this one
I don't think he sucks at all.
But I do think he's not nearly the coach quite a few folks here seem to believe.
Agree to disagree, I suppose. With a decision like that, I think it’s a bit naive to assume you know what’s best for the child….no matter how well intentioned you are, or how much life experience you have.
And besides, part of being a solid parent is giving the child room to make mistakes, and own their decisions. That’s how you build truly independent adults that can think for themselves.
This isn’t a situation where you’re trying to steer the child towards a good option and away from a bad one like with drugs or skipping school or whatever. It’s more of a situation where there will be a dozen really, really good options that only 0.0001% of the population ever have available to them, all have minimal downside, and he just needs to pick one that feels right. Let the kid make the call.
We generally agree. I just know some kids who benefit from a little higher level of parental guidance.
Absolutely. I totally get it.
I just always heard that the college choice was the first “adult” choice you really got to make in life. I think back to a lot of folks in my graduating class. Some thought they needed to get as far away as possible, did, and enjoyed seeing the world. They were right. Some thought the same, but transferred back to be closer to home within a year. Some were the opposite, didn’t want to be far from home, and made right call. Some didn’t want to be far from home and later found that it stifled them, would have done them some good and help them find the growth that they eventually got much sooner.
I still think they were all better off in the long run if they made their own decision, even if it wasn’t the right one long term, because they learned something about themselves. The ones I knew who had parents kind of coerce / pressure them into a particular place often seemed to develop a bit of a resentment for it….even if their experience wasn’t terrible. That “what if” being in the back of their minds.
In Dampier Jr’s case, a lot of that isn’t really applicable, of course. Best case scenario is he’s only doing a 1-2 year tour before the NBA. Not quite the same stakes as a 4-5 year decision. Worst case, he’s more of a project than anticipated, but still has the option to freely transfer a time or two to find the right fit, and will never be hurting for money along the way. Guess we’ll see.
List what he is better at now than when he was in college.
This will be fun, since he has played few games.
He was an efficient scorer down low in college and that is his game now.
He was not good at FTs in college and that hasn't changed.
He was a good rebounder in college and that is his game now.
Hey Dr. Phil, I think we are all ok with Jr making his own decision as long as he comes to state***
He doesn’t suck. But I think some of our fans give way too much grace “based on our basketball history” to a guy with three 8-10 seasons and subsequent first round exits.
It is especially glaring that he gets added credit based on the history of MSU basketball despite the fact that 12 SEC teams (not including TX and OK) have made the Sweet 16 or beyond since our last appearance.
Why does Jans get the benefit of the doubt based on our crappy history when all but 2 teams in the league have accomplished that feat in the last 25 years? We have been way too patient as a program that rested WAAAAAY too long on our 1994-1996 laurels and didn’t capitalize on that success AT ALL. Now we have fallen behind virtually every program in the league other than Georgia.
I'd say odds are slim he makes it to Starkville...hopefully I'm wrong and the couple people i know are also wrong.