Dan Mullen leaves for another job

dannyripms

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What are the chances Dan Mullen goes to another job like for instance an Oc job up north, maybe re unite with urban? Maybe this job is so stressful he thinks he'd rather be just an Oc I mean after all he's made a few million so I'm sure he's good there. What are y'all's opinion?
 

ArcherSPS

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What are the chances dannyripms uses punctuation like for instance a period at the end of a sentence, maybe re unite with grammar? Maybe this posting is so stressful he thinks he'd rather be just a dubmass I mean after all he's made a few posts so I'm sure he's good there. What are y'all's opinion?
 
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After he is canned/resigns, I definitely see this happening. But with the kind of person that Dan is, I don't see him resigning. He will tell everyone that he is the greatest thing since sliced bread and ride the wave until it crashes over his, and everyone who listens' heads.
 
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Hasn't he already interviewed for at least two jobs? If he wasn't hired when he was a hot commodity, then he certainly won't be hired later.
 

was21

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If he did interview for two other jobs (and not certain he did) there's the possibility that he turned the jobs down. Did you consider that?
 

Dog316

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This is one on the most ridiculous threads I have read here. And it is destructive to what we are building at State.
 

Dawg1976

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Zero unless he is told his days are numbered. And I don't see that happening anytime soon.
 

engie

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I wouldn't be surprised to see him take a lateral move out of town at some point... And those that think he wouldn't have that opportunity are kidding themselves. He's still viewed pretty highly around the country for simply making us consistently competitive. The hottest thing in coaching, he no longer is.

It's funny to think how everyone was upset about the $1.4mil buyout back when the new contract was signed over fear of him leaving. Now, it seems like it was a really good move on our part...
 

johnson86-1

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Hasn't he already interviewed for at least two jobs? If he wasn't hired when he was a hot commodity, then he certainly won't be hired later.

I'm guessing he would have interviewed a little bit differently if he had been interviewing for jobs he really wanted. With the Miami job, I think he went in with the attitude that if it was a great fit and they were ready to kiss his ***, he'd go, but he wasn't going to leave the deal he had (good AD, fan support, reasonable expectations, good pay) for a situation like miami (no fan support coupled with unreasonable expectations and pay that wasn't much better). Or maybe he really can't turn off the Yankee, who knows.

What was the second job he supposedly interviewed for? I can't even remember now.
 

Heawww

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'Tis what happens when you have a bunch of blow-hard fans. And it ain't changing anytime soon, hasn't in my lifetime.
 

WrapItDog

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This is one on the most ridiculous threads I have read here. And it is destructive to what we are building at State.

Blasphemy The Cotton Mills project will be built with or without Dan**


and Sly, and Jackie and Rocky.
 

Maroonlegacy

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If only Mullen would have taken the Penn State job when they offered it to him. ha, ha, ha, ha.
 

Seinfeld

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The question, though, is would he give up $2.7M/yr to take a lateral move? Dude's getting paid, and he's just not going to get anywhere near that at this point to take over another program.
 

johnson86-1

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I do remember something about Colorado now that you mention it, but don't remember the details. And I had already forgotten that there was speculation about the PSU job when it was open. Miami was the only one I remember where there was basically confirmation from the school that they had talked to Mullen, where the person made the comment that he thought he invented football or something or other.
 

engie

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The question, though, is would he give up $2.7M/yr to take a lateral move? Dude's getting paid, and he's just not going to get anywhere near that at this point to take over another program.

Methinks you need to understand the definition of "lateral move".

There are 52 teams in college football now paying over $2mil for their head coaches. Hardly the "elite fraternity" that it was when we first showed Dan the money...
 

Seinfeld

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In my working world, a lateral move means a position of equivalent skill in which you'd be earning the same salary. Not somewhere in the neighborhood of the current salary. People don't uproot their families and move in order to make less money along with no promotion.

With that in mind, there are just 24 schools paying $2.6M or more today and after looking at the list, I can all but guarantee that there isn't a single one of them with the slightest interest in Mullen. Now, there may be some in the next 30 or so that would take a chance on him, but I don't see them throwing more money at him than what they're paying they're current coaches so once again, we're back to Mullen having to take less money to move. Ain't gonna happen
 

bruiser.sixpack

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Come on guys....when State goes 7-5 and then wins a bowl game this year, you will all be saying what a remarkable job he did with so much young talent!




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esplanade91

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Middle Tennessee State University doesn't have enough money to buy him out or match his salary. So zero.
 

engie

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In my working world, a lateral move means a position of equivalent skill in which you'd be earning the same salary. Not somewhere in the neighborhood of the current salary. People don't uproot their families and move in order to make less money along with no promotion.

With that in mind, there are just 24 schools paying $2.6M or more today and after looking at the list, I can all but guarantee that there isn't a single one of them with the slightest interest in Mullen. Now, there may be some in the next 30 or so that would take a chance on him, but I don't see them throwing more money at him than what they're paying they're current coaches so once again, we're back to Mullen having to take less money to move. Ain't gonna happen

You have now missed 100% of my point for the second time.

My theoretical does NOT involve this being "his choice" to leave and go somewhere else he considers an upgrade. Those days are over for him. It's OUR choice for him to leave. Just not stated as such publicly to avoid a firestorm of scrutiny. Much like we haven't "fired" a single assistant under Mullen. We've allowed them to make "lateral moves" out of town -- which does not necessarily mean "an equal job making equal salary" -- but it means NOT having to be fired, embarrassed, reputation tarnished, and forced to start over from the bottom. As such, just keeping the same position for in the neighborhood of the same money = "Lateral move" = good for all parties = the common sense way to handle the matter.

As such, it makes the MOST sense for us to give him a choice -- "take a lateral move out of town -- we will provide the buyout -- and everyone's reputation stay intact" -- or "stick around, we fire you, and everyone's reputation is tarnished". And you still get the same $$ for the buyout -- but won't be getting NEARLY the same $$ for your next job. Therefore, when he actually leaves, it's in EVERYONE'S best interest to handle it this way. $2mil as a head coach somewhere is ALOT better that $400k as an OC, is it not? When you are staring down the barrel as a future OC somewhere, a $2 mil + HC job sure does look like a lateral move to me...
 
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Seinfeld

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You know what might have helped? If you had actually stated that your theoretical situation involved him being pushed out by Stricklin. What I inferred from your post was that you would not be surprised for Mullen to take a lateral move on his own accord in order escape the building heat and what he may possibly now view as a dead end for him.

But carry on... I'll work harder to read your mind next time