Dan Wolken article on Kiffin...

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Here’s my question, did he write a similar article about Mullen when he was constantly courting other schools? Because if you want us to feel sorry for OM you’re barking up the wrong tree.
 
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Here’s my question, did he write a similar article about Mullen when he was constantly courting other schools? Because if you want us to feel sorry for OM you’re barking up the wrong tree.
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It really is a ridiculous situation. I can’t believe both LSU and Ole Miss have not just told him to make a decision. He is no doubt a hell of a coach but man it’s gonna be satisfying to see his fall from grace one day. And it’ll likely happen. Not many coaches get to walk away on their own terms like saban.
 
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It really is a ridiculous situation. I can’t believe both LSU and Ole Miss have not just told him to make a decision. He is no doubt a hell of a coach but man it’s gonna be satisfying to see his fall from grace one day. And it’ll likely happen. Not many coaches get to walk away on their own terms like saban.
He will never be as marketable as he is today. If he doesn’t make the move in the next 10 days, he’ll never get this chance again. Nobody will touch him after the way he’s dicked around 3 pretty big programs. And if he stays, his best days will be behind him anyway.
 
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He will never be as marketable as he is today. If he doesn’t make the move in the next 10 days, he’ll never get this chance again. Nobody will touch him after the way he’s dicked around 3 pretty big programs. And if he stays, his best days will be behind him anyway.
You’re exactly right. No one will take him seriously if he just pulls a bunch of BS like this.
 
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But but but he’s staying! More people on this board are saying that than actual ole miss fans.
 

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He will never be as marketable as he is today. If he doesn’t make the move in the next 10 days, he’ll never get this chance again. Nobody will touch him after the way he’s dicked around 3 pretty big programs. And if he stays, his best days will be behind him anyway.
I don't know dude. He's pulled some crap into the past and now look at him. Winning makes people tolerate a lot.
 

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I don't know dude. He's pulled some crap into the past and now look at him. Winning makes people tolerate a lot.
10-1 is a lot more tolerable than 8-4 is. And with new SEC scheduling & no more escapes from the P4 scheduling requirement that’s going to be about his cap at UM going forward.
 
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If he stays he will deny he never attended going and he will be praised mighty by Ole Dixie.
Regardless what he does, the money he will get means he better win like Kirby Smart. You don’t someone close to $50 million and not be a top 10 team every year.
 
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I don’t understand why people are giving him shlt. It’s a life changing decision. If it were you you’d want time. I get they are millionaire coaches and all but I also get that the dude is undecided.

Guess most of yall haven’t had anybody come recruit you out of your current job before. It’s not easy.

Only reason it was easy for Mullen is because he wanted out.
 

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He will never be as marketable as he is today. If he doesn’t make the move in the next 10 days, he’ll never get this chance again. Nobody will touch him after the way he’s dicked around 3 pretty big programs. And if he stays, his best days will be behind him anyway.
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Great take Pat!
 

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He will never be as marketable as he is today. If he doesn’t make the move in the next 10 days, he’ll never get this chance again. Nobody will touch him after the way he’s dicked around 3 pretty big programs. And if he stays, his best days will be behind him anyway.

I couldn’t disagree more about nobody touching him because of the situation with OM, LSU, and UF. If he has OM in the top 10 again next year and a major job comes open, they’ll court him. You’re all fooling yourselves if you don’t think the egos of ADs and wealthy boosters from programs better than Ole Miss will prevail.
 

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I couldn’t disagree more about nobody touching him because of the situation with OM, LSU, and UF. If he has OM in the top 10 again next year and a major job comes open, they’ll court him. You’re all fooling yourselves if you don’t think the egos of ADs and wealthy boosters from programs better than Ole Miss will prevail.
They won’t be top 10 next year.
 
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It really is a ridiculous situation. I can’t believe both LSU and Ole Miss have not just told him to make a decision. He is no doubt a hell of a coach but man it’s gonna be satisfying to see his fall from grace one day. And it’ll likely happen. Not many coaches get to walk away on their own terms like saban.
LSU could pressure him to make a decision, but OM has zero leverage. What are they going to do if he continues to not sign the extension, fire him? And pay him his enormous buy out? They can't do anything but sit and wait.
 
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We also
They won’t be top 10 next year.

We also said he couldn’t beat UGA and that they’d be 8-3 right now. Plus, nearly everyone says the portal can result in a new team each season. If he gets the money for NIL that people are saying could happen in the other threads, then he can buy a team. We all agree he is a good coach. How can you be certain he won’t have them in the top ten?

I hate OM as much as most of you, if not more. But he has exceeded expectations this year and if he’s in Oxford next year he will sure as hell have more money at his disposal to buy a team. I think big schools will give zero shitss if he strung along other programs.
 

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They won’t be top 10 next year.
They shouldn’t be top 10 this year, but they are; so …. Back to your point … if he wants to strike while the iron is hot … this is the year. This is him at the peak … can’t see his name being hotter than now. But I agree with you.
 

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I don’t understand why people are giving him shlt. It’s a life changing decision. If it were you you’d want time. I get they are millionaire coaches and all but I also get that the dude is undecided.

Guess most of yall haven’t had anybody come recruit you out of your current job before. It’s not easy.

Only reason it was easy for Mullen is because he wanted out.
I agree with this. I hate this era.

“Why haven’t you already left your Top 6 football team yet when there’s still three weeks left in the season??? Stop dragging this out!!!”

I mean did this clown even try reading this out loud before he thought about publishing it? It’s insane drivel. Kiffin should be commended for at least not pretending it’s not happening. He’s not up there with the usual BS of “I fully intend to be the coach at Ole Miss next season, pine box, etc.”. It’s truly a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. The reality is that he holds all the cards and has all the leverage. He’s using it.
 

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I agree with this. I hate this era.

“Why haven’t you already left your Top 6 football team yet when there’s still three weeks left in the season??? Stop dragging this out!!!”

I mean did this clown even try reading this out loud before he thought about publishing it? It’s insane drivel. Kiffin should be commended for at least not pretending it’s not happening. He’s not up there with the usual BS of “I fully intend to be the coach at Ole Miss next season, pine box, etc.”. It’s truly a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. The reality is that he holds all the cards and has all the leverage. He’s using it.
I agree too. I make no apologies for Kiffin. But the reason all this is playing out this way and the reason he can't wait until the end of the season, is because of the college football calendar. It is a shame that the sports biggest months of competition coincides with its signing day and portal opening.
 
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Perd Hapley

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I agree too. I make no apologies for Kiffin. But the reason all this is playing out this way and the reason he can't wait until the end of the season, is because of the college football calendar. It is a shame that the sports biggest months of competition coincides with its signing day and portal opening.
Except for the portal doesn’t open until January, and signing day (which hardly matters at all now) isn’t until mid-December. It’s November 21st right now. Only one school (Virginia Tech) has already hired a new coach, and they only were able to so because their guy was currently unemployed. Wolken expects Lane Kiffin to make a decision on his future before anyone else for no other reason besides his own personal agenda.

If I’m Kiffin, I’m telling any and all suitors that they’ll get an answer no earlier than the day after the Egg Bowl or the day after the SECCG, whichever happens to be OM’s last game before the CFP….and that regardless of what is decided I’m still coaching the program I built in the postseason. If they don’t like it, they can eat shít.
 
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Except for the portal doesn’t open until January, and signing day (which hardly matters at all now) isn’t until mid-December. It’s November 21st right now. Only one school (Virginia Tech) has already hired a new coach, and they only were able to so because their guy was currenty unemployed. Wolken expects Lane Kiffin to make a decision on his future before anyone else for no other reason besides his own personal agenda.
The reason schools fire coaches mid-season and want a new coach by December is because of the early signing day (December 3-5, 2025). ALso, to have the new staff in place for the January 2 portal opening. (The playoffs extend into January).

I have no idea how demanding LSU and Florida are........but yeah, Kiffin should have told them to wait until after the season (like Sumerall supposedly has) and lied lied lied to the OM faithful until after the Egg bowl.

However something needs to be adjusted to limit the coaching carousel from dominating the sport, in the sports biggest hour. I believe if all the signing dates and portal were moved into the spring, that would solve the problem.
 
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When was the last time a playoff HC was offered a job mid season by in conference rival, and the HC accepted before the current season was over?

Wolken is a clown. I appreciate the hit piece but he's a clown.
 

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The reason schools fire coaches mid-season and want a new coach by December is because of the early signing day (December 3-5, 2025). ALso, to have the new staff in place for the January 2 portal opening. (The playoffs extend into January).

I have no idea how demanding LSU and Florida are........but yeah, Kiffin should have told them to wait until after the season (like Sumerall supposedly has) and lied lied lied to the OM faithful until after the Egg bowl.

However something needs to be adjusted to limit the coaching carousel from dominating the sport, in the sports biggest hour. I believe if all the signing dates and portal were moved into the spring, that would solve the problem.
No doubt that the December signing day is and has always been stupid. If they were going to do an early one they should have done it in August.
 
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He got y'all talking about his article and clicking on it....mission accomplished.
 

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The reason schools fire coaches mid-season and want a new coach by December is because of the early signing day (December 3-5, 2025). ALso, to have the new staff in place for the January 2 portal opening. (The playoffs extend into January).

I can accept two things:

1) Schools would like the hire to be KNOWN by recruits before the portal opens in January. This is a reasonable expectation. That doesn’t mean that the hire has to be 100% in place and on-site if they are still finishing out their current postseason run.

2) It would be preferable to have a new hire completed before the early HS signing period. But, by no means is this required, and way more often than not….it isn’t going to be feasible. Remember that these kids already have NIL deals in place, and they are largely committed based on that regardless. It’s only a 1-year commitment either way for everybody, all the time. So I really don’t view this as a factor. Even if your new hire shows up on November 29th, how much “recruiting” can they really do in 3-4 days?

The way I see it - schools can choose how important those 2 things are. If they view both as paramount and also insist on a full divorce with the previous employer immediately, then they really don’t need to be talking to the Lane Kiffin’s of the world. Move on down the list to the other 99.999% of viable candidates that can take the job sooner without affecting their current season. It’s very much a situation where you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
 
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Well if Lane goes to LSU and hires Orgeron he will be in the playoffs every year. He can win big at LSU. To me it's a no brainer
 
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He will never be as marketable as he is today. If he doesn’t make the move in the next 10 days, he’ll never get this chance again. Nobody will touch him after the way he’s dicked around 3 pretty big programs. And if he stays, his best days will be behind him anyway.
Totally agree with two of your points and I'm probably splitting hairs on the other but if he were to win a Natty in his first few years at LSU then his value would increase even more and he may get a chance to follow the Saban career path to Bama....his supposed dream job.
 
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I wonder if all this attention Lane is getting makes up for attention Monte never gave him.
 

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We said that last year.
They won’t have this years schedule next year. And the won’t get lucky on a Div II QB that even they thought was nothing but a cheap backup. Everything has fallen into place for them this year. That rarely happens. They’ll lose n the quarterfinals and that will be Lanes best year in Oxford, no matter how much longer he stays.