Dark Side Rankings, Vol. 4, 2016

JCHILLTOPPERS

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What the ... Good God, can we just get OPRF, GW, Lyons, and HC to play each other already...

I'm going to lead things off this way this week: Really really wish En-North made the top ten this week, is it redundant to now say they: they did not..?

After a few mundane weeks, we finally had some shakeups and big games. As a result, the tiers dissipated, and our rankings became more linear. A good thing IMO.

I'm shocked at the number of 5-0 teams in the DSR. This is atypical, but I think it's a matter of how the schedules of a number of teams lined up this season.

*Warning* I just took Melatonin, I'm watching ten things i hate about you, and drinking cab from a box. If i fall asleep while writing this, I'm sorry.

11.09 - El-Township:
Let's be honest, this is a one week holding spot. However, it's mostly deserving. El-Town picked-off G-Dub atop the Hill. The ten spot in the DSR is a worth prize. To be fair, we like that El-Town has only given up 54 points this season. With one test down, El-Town gets a week to recover vs DGN, then faces the real tests in HC and OPRF...with a week nine trap gave vs York, Congrats Lyons on your first ever DSR.

TIE:

8.45 - LW-East:
Take note, the beast hasn't scored less than 35 points this year. It's SoS is not what it was a few weeks ago as its once solid out of state foe is now 3-3. I still love the coaching and depth on this team. The only real challenge left is a week 9 match up with rival Lockport, who though 4-1, has been neither particularly stellar on offense nor defense. That said, given this team's talent, coaching, depth, and history, so long as they keep trucking, they will continue to receive DSR votes.

8.45 - B-Ton:
B-Ton takes on 4-1 Schaumburg this week. Be interested in this game. The Burg's only loss this season was to a decent St. Charles N. team, way back in week 1. Moreover, since that game the Burg has not scored less than 34 points in any game this season. I'm not calling an upset here...but feet-o just might. B-Ton's real match up is in three weeks vs palatine....Damn it, we deserve that game to be a battle of undefeateds!

7.82 - P-Ridge:
With 209/62 PF/PA, P-Ridge is rolling. There is nothing left on their schedule, however. They've main southed their last three opponents, and we anticipate seeing some more of these. Maybe McHenry (4-1) puts up a fight this weekend? Honestly, I think we are underrating this team in a major way. I've really liked what i've seen from them. Just wish there was another test on the schedule. There is a large lot of teams that could slip past P-Ridge as a result...a large lot...

6.55 - P-Tine:
Who remembers the Paladrome? Is that place still open? Yep, three weeks...B-Ton...hoping both teams are undefeated...B-ton just beat Fremb 27-12. Let's see how P-Tine compares.

6.36 - Neeq-Val:
Through five weeks, it's the neeq that's holding down the DVC. Honestly, the dvc has let me down a bit. I was expecting it to be a little more crazy; however the season is just at it's mid-point. DSR-wise, this week is huge for neeq-val. They play at undefeated NN and a blow out win may vault them into the top four...a close game and i anticipate both teams in the DSR next week. But good god, what if NN wins in a blow out...that's when ish really gets fun...am I allowed to say go huskies? nope, leave that to edgy fav nnfan.

Big Jump

3.64 - Rice:
Oh no. Rice gets MC at the worst possible time...maybe. Or Maybe Rice is ready to kick MC when MC is down. If that happens...hmmm...that give MC three losses and needing to find two wins vs 5-0 de la salle, a montini team fighting for their own playoff lives, and schizo PC. Enough of MC, Rice goes 224/84 PF/PA and gave up 44 of those points in a very weird week 2 game to crete-money.

2.73 - H-Ef:
The vikings are in position to roll through the rest of their schedule...then somehow the brook probably wins in week 9. There is little to say about H-Ef that's not known. They score early and often and their games are sold out for the next two season. I anticipate they remain in the top three unless Rice crushes things the next few weeks and surpasses them due to SoS. A team like OPRF or HC might be able to do the same with big victories with what is left on their sched...

2.45 - East-Side:
Test time for East-Side. Impressive is that East-Side is 5-0 and thrown three shut outs in a row...Their reward, a little trip to edwardsville, also 5-0 and also having pitched three shutouts in a row. PF/PA: Flyer: 220/31, Eds: 186/33. A big win for East-Side might vault them to the top spot. A big win for Eds certainly gets them votes.

1.27 - El-Ay:
How awesome is it that Rita travels north to play the State's #1 team after just defeating the pizza delivery boys of MC? Does Rita...um...excuse me...for you long time DSR fans...Reeters...come in and ride emotion to victory? It can happen. El-Ay's defense has been somewhat lacking for them this season and if Reeters continues to throw deep, maybe there's a chance. God, what would we do with Reeters then???

Lot's of big things this and next week. Should be fun!

I made it through and will now be sleeping for the next 48 hours. Rambls...your turn and I'll see you when I awake. While I usually do minimal proof reading, i did zero this time...except for accuracy. Pardon.

Peace in the Middle East - JC

 

pjjp

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Not sure what to make of it...but my picks almost exactly mirror the final DSR. I have PR and LWE switched, but other than that....

I should get a gold star from Ramblin.

Nice work, JC. Sleep is overrated.
 
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Voodoo Tatum 21

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May 18, 2016
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Sweet!! Now I need to cross compare the DSR with the LSR and run it though my computer analysis program to identity the one team that is most susceptible to an upset!!
 

kpjasion

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I had a one-nighter with a solid 9 I pulled out of Paladrome. The reason it is still top of mind 22 years later is because I rarely had one-nighters and I never got the solid 9's. Waiting weeks to get a 5 was more my speed. You'll always have a place in my heart Paladrome!

And in a few years you could've had a three way with three 3's from either Idolz, Hob Nob, or Jester's Lounge....;)
 

ramblinman_rivals165935

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What the ... Good God, can we just get OPRF, GW, Lyons, and HC to play each other already...

I'm going to lead things off this way this week: Really really wish En-North made the top ten this week, is it redundant to now say they: they did not..?

After a few mundane weeks, we finally had some shakeups and big games. As a result, the tiers dissipated, and our rankings became more linear. A good thing IMO.

I'm shocked at the number of 5-0 teams in the DSR. This is atypical, but I think it's a matter of how the schedules of a number of teams lined up this season.

*Warning* I just took Melatonin, I'm watching ten things i hate about you, and drinking cab from a box. If i fall asleep while writing this, I'm sorry.

11.09 - El-Township:
Let's be honest, this is a one week holding spot. However, it's mostly deserving. El-Town picked-off G-Dub atop the Hill. The ten spot in the DSR is a worth prize. To be fair, we like that El-Town has only given up 54 points this season. With one test down, El-Town gets a week to recover vs DGN, then faces the real tests in HC and OPRF...with a week nine trap gave vs York, Congrats Lyons on your first ever DSR.

TIE:

8.45 - LW-East:
Take note, the beast hasn't scored less than 35 points this year. It's SoS is not what it was a few weeks ago as its once solid out of state foe is now 3-3. I still love the coaching and depth on this team. The only real challenge left is a week 9 match up with rival Lockport, who though 4-1, has been neither particularly stellar on offense nor defense. That said, given this team's talent, coaching, depth, and history, so long as they keep trucking, they will continue to receive DSR votes.

8.45 - B-Ton:
B-Ton takes on 4-1 Schaumburg this week. Be interested in this game. The Burg's only loss this season was to a decent St. Charles N. team, way back in week 1. Moreover, since that game the Burg has not scored less than 34 points in any game this season. I'm not calling an upset here...but feet-o just might. B-Ton's real match up is in three weeks vs palatine....Damn it, we deserve that game to be a battle of undefeateds!

7.82 - P-Ridge:
With 209/62 PF/PA, P-Ridge is rolling. There is nothing left on their schedule, however. They've main southed their last three opponents, and we anticipate seeing some more of these. Maybe McHenry (4-1) puts up a fight this weekend? Honestly, I think we are underrating this team in a major way. I've really liked what i've seen from them. Just wish there was another test on the schedule. There is a large lot of teams that could slip past P-Ridge as a result...a large lot...

6.55 - P-Tine:
Who remembers the Paladrome? Is that place still open? Yep, three weeks...B-Ton...hoping both teams are undefeated...B-ton just beat Fremb 27-12. Let's see how P-Tine compares.

6.36 - Neeq-Val:
Through five weeks, it's the neeq that's holding down the DVC. Honestly, the dvc has let me down a bit. I was expecting it to be a little more crazy; however the season is just at it's mid-point. DSR-wise, this week is huge for neeq-val. They play at undefeated NN and a blow out win may vault them into the top four...a close game and i anticipate both teams in the DSR next week. But good god, what if NN wins in a blow out...that's when ish really gets fun...am I allowed to say go huskies? nope, leave that to edgy fav nnfan.

Big Jump

3.64 - Rice:
Oh no. Rice gets MC at the worst possible time...maybe. Or Maybe Rice is ready to kick MC when MC is down. If that happens...hmmm...that give MC three losses and needing to find two wins vs 5-0 de la salle, a montini team fighting for their own playoff lives, and schizo PC. Enough of MC, Rice goes 224/84 PF/PA and gave up 44 of those points in a very weird week 2 game to crete-money.

2.73 - H-Ef:
The vikings are in position to roll through the rest of their schedule...then somehow the brook probably wins in week 9. There is little to say about H-Ef that's not known. They score early and often and their games are sold out for the next two season. I anticipate they remain in the top three unless Rice crushes things the next few weeks and surpasses them due to SoS. A team like OPRF or HC might be able to do the same with big victories with what is left on their sched...

2.45 - East-Side:
Test time for East-Side. Impressive is that East-Side is 5-0 and thrown three shut outs in a row...Their reward, a little trip to edwardsville, also 5-0 and also having pitched three shutouts in a row. PF/PA: Flyer: 220/31, Eds: 186/33. A big win for East-Side might vault them to the top spot. A big win for Eds certainly gets them votes.

1.27 - El-Ay:
How awesome is it that Rita travels north to play the State's #1 team after just defeating the pizza delivery boys of MC? Does Rita...um...excuse me...for you long time DSR fans...Reeters...come in and ride emotion to victory? It can happen. El-Ay's defense has been somewhat lacking for them this season and if Reeters continues to throw deep, maybe there's a chance. God, what would we do with Reeters then???

Lot's of big things this and next week. Should be fun!

I made it through and will now be sleeping for the next 48 hours. Rambls...your turn and I'll see you when I awake. While I usually do minimal proof reading, i did zero this time...except for accuracy. Pardon.

Peace in the Middle East - JC



Things that make you wonder what they know that everybody else doesn't...

Newt with ND at #7. What have you learned about the Dons that has you ranking them higher than PR, Barrington and LTHS?

gdfather with no ranking for PR. You do know that you disagreeing with just about everyone who says they are the real deal, the best thing since sliced bread, and every other similar cliche? Good for you.

Bones with no ranking for NV, Several others have them as high as #5. Not Bones. He's going rogue on the Wildcats. Big weekend ahead. Bones will either be saying I told you so, or going with the NV flow.

Guerinfan and Newt, where are your votes for LWE? Don't you realize that, in dissing the Griffins, you are also dissing the mighty Southwest Suburban?

MCHS, what is it about the Broncos (of Barrington) that you can't show them a little love? You like IC over Barrington? Really?

Switching gears a bit, I smell a conspiracy.

Check out the votes for PJJP, Dean, USD, and epic. After only 5 games, there are four DSR voters who all voted for the exact same teams. Hmmm....
 

godfthr53

All-Conference
Sep 8, 2008
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Things that make you wonder what they know that everybody else doesn't...

Newt with ND at #7. What have you learned about the Dons that has you ranking them higher than PR, Barrington and LTHS?

gdfather with no ranking for PR. You do know that you disagreeing with just about everyone who says they are the real deal, the best thing since sliced bread, and every other similar cliche? Good for you.

Bones with no ranking for NV, Several others have them as high as #5. Not Bones. He's going rogue on the Wildcats. Big weekend ahead. Bones will either be saying I told you so, or going with the NV flow.

Guerinfan and Newt, where are your votes for LWE? Don't you realize that, in dissing the Griffins, you are also dissing the mighty Southwest Suburban?

MCHS, what is it about the Broncos (of Barrington) that you can't show them a little love? You like IC over Barrington? Really?

Switching gears a bit, I smell a conspiracy.

Check out the votes for PJJP, Dean, USD, and epic. After only 5 games, there are four DSR voters who all voted for the exact same teams. Hmmm....

I had PR in all my previous week but they had to be on slow decline due to SOS. IMO.
 
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JCHILLTOPPERS

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Things that make you wonder what they know that everybody else doesn't...


Bones with no ranking for NV, Several others have them as high as #5. Not Bones. He's going rogue on the Wildcats. Big weekend ahead. Bones will either be saying I told you so, or going with the NV flow.

--- awesome

Guerinfan and Newt, where are your votes for LWE? Don't you realize that, in dissing the Griffins, you are also dissing the mighty Southwest Suburban?

---awesome

MCHS, what is it about the Broncos (of Barrington) that you can't show them a little love? You like IC over Barrington? Really?

---he emailed me that you would write this...almost exactly.

Switching gears a bit, I smell a conspiracy.

Check out the votes for PJJP, Dean, USD, and epic. After only 5 games, there are four DSR voters who all voted for the exact same teams. Hmmm....

--- I thought about this as well. It is early for so much consensus. That said, I think I nailed the reason why this is so in the preamble. There are just too many 5-0 teams with steady reps and ok wins to ignore. that ends very soon. I think the fact there are so many traditional powers down this reason is the reason I think nine of the 10 teams are undefeated - plus nn at 11.

Things that make you wonder what they know that everybody else doesn't...


Bones with no ranking for NV, Several others have them as high as #5. Not Bones. He's going rogue on the Wildcats. Big weekend ahead. Bones will either be saying I told you so, or going with the NV flow.

--- awesome

Guerinfan and Newt, where are your votes for LWE? Don't you realize that, in dissing the Griffins, you are also dissing the mighty Southwest Suburban?

---awesome

MCHS, what is it about the Broncos (of Barrington) that you can't show them a little love? You like IC over Barrington? Really?

---he emailed me that you would write this...almost exactly.

Switching gears a bit, I smell a conspiracy.

Check out the votes for PJJP, Dean, USD, and epic. After only 5 games, there are four DSR voters who all voted for the exact same teams. Hmmm....

--- I thought about this as well. It is early for so much consensus. That said, I think I nailed the reason why this is so in the preamble. There are just too many 5-0 teams with steady reps and ok wins to ignore. that ends very soon. I think the fact there are so many traditional powers down this reason is the reason I think nine of the 10 teams are undefeated - plus nn at 11.
 

JCHILLTOPPERS

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I had a one-nighter with a solid 9 I pulled out of Paladrome. The reason it is still top of mind 22 years later is because I rarely had one-nighters and I never got the solid 9's. Waiting weeks to get a 5 was more my speed. You'll always have a place in my heart Paladrome!
similar situation. just hope it was not you and me together.
 

MS4EVER

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I had a one-nighter with a solid 9 I pulled out of Paladrome. The reason it is still top of mind 22 years later is because I rarely had one-nighters and I never got the solid 9's. Waiting weeks to get a 5 was more my speed. You'll always have a place in my heart Paladrome!

Post of the year material!
 

Goomlah

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Things that make you wonder what they know that everybody else doesn't...

Newt with ND at #7. What have you learned about the Dons that has you ranking them higher than PR, Barrington and LTHS?

gdfather with no ranking for PR. You do know that you disagreeing with just about everyone who says they are the real deal, the best thing since sliced bread, and every other similar cliche? Good for you.

Bones with no ranking for NV, Several others have them as high as #5. Not Bones. He's going rogue on the Wildcats. Big weekend ahead. Bones will either be saying I told you so, or going with the NV flow.

Guerinfan and Newt, where are your votes for LWE? Don't you realize that, in dissing the Griffins, you are also dissing the mighty Southwest Suburban?

MCHS, what is it about the Broncos (of Barrington) that you can't show them a little love? You like IC over Barrington? Really?

Switching gears a bit, I smell a conspiracy.

Check out the votes for PJJP, Dean, USD, and epic. After only 5 games, there are four DSR voters who all voted for the exact same teams. Hmmm....


And yet nothing for me :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
 

pjjp

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Switching gears a bit, I smell a conspiracy.

Check out the votes for PJJP, Dean, USD, and epic. After only 5 games, there are four DSR voters who all voted for the exact same teams. Hmmm....
Clearly, those four voters are spot on in their rankings.
 
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USD24

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Surprised everyone other than Bones and myself has LA #1. What is their signature win? Beating a MC team that lost at home to SR? I think H-F's win over LWE and ESL's win over Christian Brothers are much better wins.
 

pjjp

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Surprised everyone other than Bones and myself has LA #1. What is their signature win? Beating a MC team that lost at home to SR? I think H-F's win over LWE and ESL's win over Christian Brothers are much better wins.
That argument can be made. I would agree none of their individual wins are as good as a LWE or Christian Brothers MO. However, other than St. Francis, their schedule has been consistently tough. The WI team is 4-2. MS and MC are two pretty good 3-2 teams, and the convincing win over previously undefeated Fenwick was impressive. I want to see how they play defensively against Rita this week. The Mustangs have been putting up points all year.
 

DeanOfSelection

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Looking ahead to week 8, I will definitely vault the Palatine-Barrington winner over PRidge Also will be watching the Neq/NN game as well this week. So PR might slide a little for me but they have the 2 score win over Cary and are bludgeoning teams.
 

ramblinman_rivals165935

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Surprised everyone other than Bones and myself has LA #1. What is their signature win? Beating a MC team that lost at home to SR? I think H-F's win over LWE and ESL's win over Christian Brothers are much better wins.

All the DSR voters have their factors that they input into their rankings (record, SOS, signature wins, reputation, margins of victory/defeat, etc.), and all of them assign different subjective weights to those factors.

In the first issue of this year's DSR, I said that LA as a unanimous #1 was wrong. Now we are more than half way through the regular season. The Ramblers are 5-0 and have only played one uncompetitive team. Things are different now than they were three weeks ago.

Here is my question about LA: Given that they have played a more than respectable schedule, but haven't played the likes of Christian Brothers or another highly rated DSR team, does a team like LA NEED a strong signature win to be #1?

The Ramblers are defending 8A state champs going for their 23rd consecutive win this weekend. Putting that into perspective, there is only one other team in the state that has a current winning streak longer than 5 games. Tri Valley in 2A has a 19 game streak going. I think there are some voters who weight Loyola's reputation and winning ways higher than other factors and will keep Loyola at #1 until they lose. I don't find that to be out of line at this point, as long as LA isn't fattening up on cellar dwellers.
 
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Bowie50

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I had a one-nighter with a solid 9 I pulled out of Paladrome. The reason it is still top of mind 22 years later is because I rarely had one-nighters and I never got the solid 9's. Waiting weeks to get a 5 was more my speed. You'll always have a place in my heart Paladrome!
We have 9's in Palatine???
 
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LHSTigers94

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All the DSR voters have their factors that they input into their rankings (record, SOS, signature wins, reputation, margins of victory/defeat, etc.), and all of them assign different subjective weights to those factors.

In the first issue of this year's DSR, I said that LA as a unanimous #1 was wrong. Now we are more than half way through the regular season. The Ramblers are 5-0 and have only played one uncompetitive team. Things are different now than they were three weeks ago.

Here is my question about LA: Given that they have played a more than respectable schedule, but haven't played the likes of Christian Brothers or another highly rated DSR team, does a team like LA NEED a strong signature win to be #1? The Ramblers are defending 8A state champs going for their 23rd consecutive win this weekend. I think there are some voters who weight that reality higher than other factors and will keep Loyola at #1 until they lose. I don't find that to be out of line at this point, as long as LA isn't fattening up on cellar dwellers.

I give LA credit for scheduling tough preseason non conference teams. You can't punish LA if a team is not panning out and when you win 22 in a row everyone need to respect the results. Keep in mind, the skillful HF of 2015 was beat by LA.
 

stonedlizard

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Things that make you wonder what they know that everybody else doesn't...

Newt with ND at #7. What have you learned about the Dons that has you ranking them higher than PR, Barrington and LTHS?

gdfather with no ranking for PR. You do know that you disagreeing with just about everyone who says they are the real deal, the best thing since sliced bread, and every other similar cliche? Good for you.

Bones with no ranking for NV, Several others have them as high as #5. Not Bones. He's going rogue on the Wildcats. Big weekend ahead. Bones will either be saying I told you so, or going with the NV flow.

Guerinfan and Newt, where are your votes for LWE? Don't you realize that, in dissing the Griffins, you are also dissing the mighty Southwest Suburban?

MCHS, what is it about the Broncos (of Barrington) that you can't show them a little love? You like IC over Barrington? Really?

Switching gears a bit, I smell a conspiracy.

Check out the votes for PJJP, Dean, USD, and epic. After only 5 games, there are four DSR voters who all voted for the exact same teams. Hmmm....

The only way this can happen, in my opinion - and I really mean this, is if ranking rigging is going on.
 

JCHILLTOPPERS

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As I attempted to go back to sleep, I could not help to wonder and type: is zero gravity at least still kicking? My pal Kyle used a fake ID to get in. It fooled the door guy into believing he was UNDER 18. He was 19.
 

mchsalumni

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Here is my question about LA: Given that they have played a more than respectable schedule, but haven't played the likes of Christian Brothers or another highly rated DSR team, does a team like LA NEED a strong signature win to be #1?

They will definitely need a strong signature win to STAY #1. Circling the calendar for BR-LA.
 
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Catch--22

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Zero Gravity closed just a couple months ago I believe.

The girl was from Arlington Heights, not Pally. Keep in mind, this was 1994… Smack in the middle of the grunge rock era… Before Britney and Christina changed the wardrobes of girls nationwide… A 9 in 1994 is a 7 at best by modern standards. I am friends with her on Facebook though, and she is still an incredibly attractive woman. Got a love a woman who will one-night with ya, and then find you on social media two decades later. Not sure what the hell was wrong in her head that night in '94, but I'll take it.

The mention of Paladrome last night had me googling some articles and looking for pictures. One conclusion… when you don't go away to college, 19 really sucks. There is nothing to do… Teen clubs, bowling alleys, pool halls, but not much else.

If you could go back in time, would you go back to high school and play football again, knowing that eventually you have to be 19 again and hang out with the bowling alley people for a year ? Tough call
 
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Goomlah

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Anyway, my problem with picking Lyons or NN is their signature win is truly the only good win that team has. At least with St. Charles East they beat St. Charles North and Batavia and both of them are undefeated,...
 
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BretEpic

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Things that make you wonder what they know that everybody else doesn't...

Newt with ND at #7. What have you learned about the Dons that has you ranking them higher than PR, Barrington and LTHS?

gdfather with no ranking for PR. You do know that you disagreeing with just about everyone who says they are the real deal, the best thing since sliced bread, and every other similar cliche? Good for you.

Bones with no ranking for NV, Several others have them as high as #5. Not Bones. He's going rogue on the Wildcats. Big weekend ahead. Bones will either be saying I told you so, or going with the NV flow.

Guerinfan and Newt, where are your votes for LWE? Don't you realize that, in dissing the Griffins, you are also dissing the mighty Southwest Suburban?

MCHS, what is it about the Broncos (of Barrington) that you can't show them a little love? You like IC over Barrington? Really?

Switching gears a bit, I smell a conspiracy.

Check out the votes for PJJP, Dean, USD, and epic. After only 5 games, there are four DSR voters who all voted for the exact same teams. Hmmm....
I'd fall on a sword before siding with that swine