Dawn Staley interviewed for Knicks HC job

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Surprised not already discussed here.

Said she would have taken the job if offered. But a good move all around for the Knicks to go with someone else, namely a man.

Obviously, it's good for USC b/c we keep our best ever head coach in any sport.

It's good for Dawn b/c she most likely would not have fared well. Even for men head coaches, the jump from college to NBA very rarely turns out well. She can instead stay here and continue contending for titles. This is again, good for USC b/c she would have gone to NY, flamed out after a few years, then returned to college somewhere else, making some other college team into a dominant force.

It's good for the Knicks as they avoid the media circus and scrutiny that would come with the situation (which is something Dawn said SHE brought up to THEM during the interview process). And they avoid having to fire her, or worse, being forced to keep an underperforming coach just because she's a she.

A classic win-win-win.

It's curious to me that she doesn't get interest from the WNBA, which seems like an obvious fit, but I suppose it's more the reality that the WNBA is a significant step down from what she's currently doing. I assume some other NBA team who has nothing to lose will take the plunge one of these days and hire her.
 

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So she's looking for a new job?
I'm sure the Knicks approached her. Don't think she's shopping around, though I'm sure her agent is shopping her to NBA teams, which is really the only thing that would make sense for her.

Can't imagine she'd go anywhere else in the college ranks. She's making top tier money here, competing for titles every single season. WNBA doesn't make any sense at all. WNBA is basically irrelevant compared to women's college basketball, and she would take a significant pay cut.
 
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I'm sure the Knicks approached her. Don't think she's shopping around, though I'm sure her agent is shopping her to NBA teams, which is really the only thing that would make sense for her.

Can't imagine she'd go anywhere else in the college ranks. She's making top tier money here, competing for titles every single season. WNBA doesn't make any sense at all. Far less relevant that women's college basketball and would take a significant pay cut.
Agree, NBA would elevate her profile even more but would definitely be a different animal from the comfy college job she can retire in.
 

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Not sure how I feel about this. She will leave at the drop of a hat to promote women's rights. Maybe gay rights, black people rights, gay blackl women's rights. It tells me that this isn't her dream job and will leave for something else to prove a point or promote some agenda. I give her 2 more years.
 
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Not sure how I feel about this. She will leave at the drop of a hat to promote women's rights. Maybe gay rights, black people rights, gay blackl women's rights. It tells me that this isn't her dream job and will leave for something else to prove a point or promote some agenda. I give her 2 more years.
Well, she's woke for sure, but I think you have to separate the two.

I don't think she'd be leaving solely b/c of the women's equality nonsense. That's more of a bonus. We wouldn't fault Lamont if he left for the Knicks job, so I don't think I could fault Dawn either.
 

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Well, she's woke for sure, but I think you have to separate the two.

I don't think she'd be leaving solely b/c of the women's equality nonsense. That's more of a bonus. We wouldn't fault Lamont if he left for the Knicks job, so I don't think I could fault Dawn either.

I'd sooner believe that she took the interview to remind us that we need to keep paying her to keep her.

The Knicks get some DEI brownie points for interviewing a woman.
 

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Inclines me to think that this job no longer drives her. Not good.
 

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This is old. Her name came up in the job search along with other coaches that were not leaving their current job (Jason Kidd, Chris Finch (Minnesota T-Wolves coach). They ended up recycling Mike Brown who was fired by the Sacramento Kings this past year. They should have kept the coach they had, Tom Thibodeau. They did go to the Eastern Conference Finals. It seems that it was an emotional reaction from getting bounced in the playoffs. No real plan for what style of coach they wanted moving forward. I do think if any female coach could make the transition to the NBA, it would probably be her or Becky Hammon.
 
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I'm sure the Knicks approached her. Don't think she's shopping around, though I'm sure her agent is shopping her to NBA teams, which is really the only thing that would make sense for her.

Can't imagine she'd go anywhere else in the college ranks. She's making top tier money here, competing for titles every single season. WNBA doesn't make any sense at all. WNBA is basically irrelevant compared to women's college basketball, and she would take a significant pay cut.
She's been contacted about an NBA job before, Portland Trailblazers. She has indicated that she would be interested in the past, but only if the team contacting her is serious. She has said that she didn't think that the Trailblazers or the Knicks were serious. Felt she has been interviewed for attention.
 
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And she did the interviews for attention - works both ways
I think she did it for a little more than attention. She did say that she would have taken the job if offered. Said she would have had to take it for what it would have meant for women breaking that glass ceiling.
 

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Inclines me to think that this job no longer drives her. Not good.
I don't think it means that. If the Knicks reach out for what would be an historic interview and job, I don't think many are going to turn that down.

And by acknowledging the interview now, I think she's using it as a recruiting tool. I doubt many women's basketball coaches, and certainly none who are women, can claim to have been seriously considered to coach one of the premier NBA franchises.
 

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Not sure how I feel about this. She will leave at the drop of a hat to promote women's rights. Maybe gay rights, black people rights, gay blackl women's rights. It tells me that this isn't her dream job and will leave for something else to prove a point or promote some agenda. I give her 2 more years.

Sooner the better imo
 

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I don't think it means that. If the Knicks reach out for what would be an historic interview and job, I don't think many are going to turn that down.

And by acknowledging the interview now, I think she's using it as a recruiting tool. I doubt many women's basketball coaches, and certainly none who are women, can claim to have been seriously considered to coach one of the premier NBA franchises.
Did they reach out or did she make a statement about the job not directed toward them but which beguiled them? That was my understanding.
 

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I don't know about her motivation or their motivation. But, I imagine, if you're a college basketball coach and the New York Knicks call and ask you to interview, you interview.
 
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She would be good in the WNBA but theres no NBA team that would hire her, just wouldn’t work.
That's my initial reaction as well. I just don't see a female coach working out as a head NBA coach. I don't really care at all if an NBA organization wants to take that gamble (I watch and keep up with the NBA zero% ).
 

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Yeah, let's go get someone that fits your political leanings and lose.

No let's have coaches who dont broadcast it to everyone. Tell me if you know the political leanings of any other coach at Carolina.
She gets paid a lot to coach and bring in $$ to the program...and less importantly to win.
Alienating any of the fan base is detrimental to that cause.
 

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This is old. Her name came up in the job search along with other coaches that were not leaving their current job (Jason Kidd, Chris Finch (Minnesota T-Wolves coach). They ended up recycling Mike Brown who was fired by the Sacramento Kings this past year. They should have kept the coach they had, Tom Thibodeau. They did go to the Eastern Conference Finals. It seems that it was an emotional reaction from getting bounced in the playoffs. No real plan for what style of coach they wanted moving forward. I do think if any female coach could make the transition to the NBA, it would probably be her or Becky Hammon.
Wasn't this from a couple years ago? I don't recall her interviewing recently.
 

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Is it curious that that the WNBA is not a step up for WBB coaches? On the contrary, it's a major step down. It would be a demotion to go from coaching college basketball to WNBA.
Why do you dislike the WNBA so much? Did your wife/girlfriend leave you for a player?
 

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Wasn't this from a couple years ago? I don't recall her interviewing recently.
It was in the spring of this year after the Knicks lost to the Pacers in the ECF. She interviewed with the Trailblazers back in 2021. I think Dawn would take an NBA job if offered, but I think that is the only job she would take. She is not moving to another college job. I think she takes the NBA for the historical significance of it. Also, the Knicks don't have a bad roster. They actually should have beat the Pacers or at least got it to Game 7. They blew the series in Game 1 when they had a double digit lead in the final 2 minutes of that game. The owners emotional thought of losing Game 1 and the series that way was probably what got Thibodeau fired.
 

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I googled the salaries. Dawn makes 4 million here where wnba coaches make 500k to 1 million.

Based on that alone, the wnba would be a huge step backwards for her.
WNBA players make like $50k a year and coaches make that much? Ridiculous. Pretty obvious why the NBA loses millions on the WNBA each year.
 
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It was in the spring of this year after the Knicks lost to the Pacers in the ECF. She interviewed with the Trailblazers back in 2021. I think Dawn would take an NBA job if offered, but I think that is the only job she would take. She is not moving to another college job. I think she takes the NBA for the historical significance of it. Also, the Knicks don't have a bad roster. They actually should have beat the Pacers or at least got it to Game 7. They blew the series in Game 1 when they had a double digit lead in the final 2 minutes of that game. The owners emotional thought of losing Game 1 and the series that way was probably what got Thibodeau fired.
Ahhh.....it was the Trailblazers I was thinking about. I didn't know she interviewed for another. I agree with you on her not leaving unless it is an NBA job but I don't like it that she would be interviewing when she has such a sweet gig with us.
 

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I googled the salaries. Dawn makes 4 million here where wnba coaches make 500k to 1 million.

Based on that alone, the wnba would be a huge step backwards for her.
Yes it would. And I think she would touch more lives if she stayed in the college ranks. There are a lot of little girls out there that Dawn inspires. I don't agree with her politics but the good far outweighs the bad with us keeping Dawn as our coach.
 

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Why do you dislike the WNBA so much? Did your wife/girlfriend leave you for a player?
I have been bothering him because I think I know the answer, but he won't be honest enough to admit. 18 appears to me to have this rigid thought of where men and women are supposed to be in life. It's not about women's athleticism or lack thereof. If that was true, he would not have a problem with Dawn Staley or any women coaching men. Don't need athleticism to coach. How many threads have you seen from him denouncing Geno coaching UConn's women's team? It's about men having dominion over everything, but women being forced to remain in their place. The women he goes on about don't stay in their place. So, he has a problem with them.
 

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Why do you dislike the WNBA so much? Did your wife/girlfriend leave you for a player?
It’s nothing to do with whether I like it or not. It is a step down from women’s college basketball. Indisputable.
 

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I have been bothering him because I think I know the answer, but he won't be honest enough to admit. 18 appears to me to have this rigid thought of where men and women are supposed to be in life. It's not about women's athleticism or lack thereof. If that was true, he would not have a problem with Dawn Staley or any women coaching men. Don't need athleticism to coach. How many threads have you seen from him denouncing Geno coaching UConn's women's team? It's about men having dominion over everything, but women being forced to remain in their place. The women he goes on about don't stay in their place. So, he has a problem with them.
Dawn makes about $4 million per year here. The highest paid coach in the WNBA makes about $1 million per year. How would you describe that as anything but an enormous step down?
 

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WNBA players make like $50k a year and coaches make that much? Ridiculous. Pretty obvious why the NBA loses millions on the WNBA each year.
Actually, that's a little off. WNBA Minimum Salary for 2025 is $66,000 and some change. Players on the high end make $250,000 (The Aja's, The Napheesa Collier's, etc.). The average salary is slighlty above $102,000.00.
 

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It’s nothing to do with whether I like it or not. It is a step down from women’s college basketball. Indisputable.
Whether it is a step down or not has absolutely nothing to do with all these women's threads that you have been starting. It's obvious that women that don't follow the little box that you place them in trigger you. It's almost comical. I think I remember you saying you graduated from Bob Jones. So, I am not surprised. Oh, I am stereotyping. My bad. LOL!!!
 

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Actually, that's a little off. WNBA Minimum Salary for 2025 is $66,000 and some change. Players on the high end make $250,000 (The Aja's, The Napheesa Collier's, etc.). The average salary is slighlty above $102,000.00.
Thanks for clarifying-they're more overpaid than I thought then. I didn't care to Google it. I just knew Aja makes a lot more from her endorsement deal with Nike than her WNBA salary. The NBA lost $40M on the WNBA last year alone.
 
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Dawn makes about $4 million per year here. The highest paid coach in the WNBA makes about $1 million per year. How would you describe that as anything but an enormous step down?

He can't, of course. He's being his usually triggered self because someone dared say something he didn't like about women's sports.

Probably that whole "wants to transition himself" thing.