Daylight Savings Time question

Dawgbite

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None what so ever. I prefer day light savings time to normal time but I can adjust to either. Just leave it one way.
 

dawgstudent

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I've heard for those kids that get picked up by the school bus at 6 to 6:30 AM - it's pitch black during the fall/winter if we didn't go back to standard time.
 

$altyDawg

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At some point in the year, it's going to be dark at 6AM. Kinda like right now immediately after the time has changed. Pick one and leave it alone.
 

8dog

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I cannot believe anyone would actually want standard time.
 

cowbell88

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I 17’n HATE DST! For the farmers or those employed in the Ag industry, it sucks.

If pasture pool is your thing, those people can always get up an hour or two earlier and get their **** done. 7-4 or 6-3 is still 8 hrs with lunch break just like 8-5.

Why can’t businesses and schools adjust hours, when days get longer, instead of penalizing the whole population?
 

o_Spectre

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You would have school days in January where the sun didn’t rise until 8:30 - there’s nothing wrong with the current system. I love the fall back time when it happens, signs of winter, Thanksgiving, Christmas. The early sun is a rejuvenation. 2:30 cbs games end under the lights. Springing forward is also a welcome sign of the Masters, baseball, Summer etc.

leave it alone.
 

dorndawg

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You would have school days in January where the sun didn’t rise until 8:30 - there’s nothing wrong with the current system. I love the fall back time when it happens, signs of winter, Thanksgiving, Christmas. The early sun is a rejuvenation. 2:30 cbs games end under the lights. Springing forward is also a welcome sign of the Masters, baseball, Summer etc.

leave it alone.

While I find your opinion silly and indefensible, I am now pleased to find ONE individual who supports changing the time twice a year.
 

Coast Dawg

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two for indefensible...

While I find your opinion silly and indefensible, I am now pleased to find ONE individual who supports changing the time twice a year.


I get to my office about 9am so by changing the time for fall/winter, I have enough daylight to wade fish for trout before work. With summer approaching, the days will soon be long enough to do the same before work.
 

thekimmer

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And farmers can't adjust their schedule because....?

I 17’n HATE DST! For the farmers or those employed in the Ag industry, it sucks.

If pasture pool is your thing, those people can always get up an hour or two earlier and get their **** done. 7-4 or 6-3 is still 8 hrs with lunch break just like 8-5.

Why can’t businesses and schools adjust hours, when days get longer, instead of penalizing the whole population?

The thing is whether you adjust schedules or the clock the result is the same. You said it yourself, "people can always get up an hour or two earlier." Of course some, nay most folks can't do that because they have a work schedule that cannot be changed at their discretion. I would think farmers probably have more discretion to do that than most folks. If you left it up to individual businesses or schools to adjust schedules then you'd have a nightmare of some that do and some that don't. Changing the time at least keeps everybody together.
 

woozman

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I cannot believe anyone would actually want standard time.

The only person that I’ve ever met that preferred standard time was my late neighbor. He was late 70s when I moved next door and lived to be 92. He hated DST because he went to bed at 6:30 and didn’t like the fact that it wasn’t dark yet.
 

mstateglfr

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1- federal approval is needed? WT17 for? Did NW IN got federal approval to be part of Central Time since its so close to Chicago? Did Arizona get federal approval to not participate in DST?
If a state doesnt want to participate in DST, then let em vote on it and go from there. Itll get confusing as 17, but when has that ever stopped anything from happening in our government?

2- I was in Belize this past summer(incredible place, by the way) and they are Eastern time, but dont follow DST. In mid-June it was dark at 530. I was shocked because that one hadnt come to mind to think of before we visited. It was also light at 5am. 5am!!!!
That **** shouldnt happen- its the 17ing Caribbean!




Pitch black mornings in the late fall and winter would suck. It would not be as safe as the current setup for commuters(kids, pedestrians, etc) in the morning. At the same time, it also wouldnt be dark during the night rush hour so that would be safer.

I would take more sun later in the day during fall and winter for sure.
 

Dawgbite

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You would have school days in January where the sun didn’t rise until 8:30 - there’s nothing wrong with the current system. I love the fall back time when it happens, signs of winter, Thanksgiving, Christmas. The early sun is a rejuvenation. 2:30 cbs games end under the lights. Springing forward is also a welcome sign of the Masters, baseball, Summer etc.

leave it alone.

Yeah, I bet you believe that we are going to win a game in the mens NCAA tournament and win 8 or more games in football next fall too? There is a place for people like you, but it ain't on a Mississippi State sports message board! Oh, ****!
 

Dawgbite

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The only person that I’ve ever met that preferred standard time was my late neighbor. He was late 70s when I moved next door and lived to be 92. He hated DST because he went to bed at 6:30 and didn’t like the fact that it wasn’t dark yet.
When I retire in a few years, every night is going to be Friday night and every day is going to be Saturday. The time of day will be irrelevant beyond making sure I'm not late for happy hour!
 

DancingRabbit

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I’d rather have DST and I farm.

My dad farmed. He didn't hate DST, but he ridiculed the idea that it was good for farmers - which was thrown out all the time when LBJ signed it into law in 1966. "An extra hour to harvest crops" was silly. He generally worked from "can (see) to can't (see)" regardless of what banks or schools were doing. He didn't like it changing - he wanted it one way or the other.
 

Bulldogg31

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As someone who gets hit with Seasonal Depression every year like clockwork I’d rather have the hour of sunlight at the end of the day. There’s also several studies that show from a public health standpoint that Daylight Savings Time (March thru November) is better us.

One showed an 8% spike in hospital admittances for severe depression in the three weeks following the “Fall back” time change. This is attributed to abruptly losing an hour of daylight
after weeks of slowly shortening days already.

This was just for hospital admittances. It did not account for the millions of others who suffer from SAD who are less productive at work, an increase in strained relationships, sleep deprivation, increased usage of antidepressants, and even suicides. The farther you live from the equator, the worse these symptoms. If you don’t experience this physical change every year trust me it’s a real thing and it’s largely hereditary.

Obviously I’d vote for keeping the extra hour of daylight. I do thank the farmers for adjusting as I do enjoy eating food, wearing clothes, and having fuel, but if we could keep the extra daylight I think a lot of folks would feel a lot better.
 

engie

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I wish they'd move back DST a couple of weeks like they used to have it. At least give me a week or two of turkey season with that extra hour in the morning.
 
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I don’t want to get up at 3 am in the summer to work. I’d rather have daylight at the end of the day.
 

thekimmer

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You would have school days in January where the sun didn’t rise until 8:30 - there’s nothing wrong with the current system. I love the fall back time when it happens, signs of winter, Thanksgiving, Christmas. The early sun is a rejuvenation. 2:30 cbs games end under the lights. Springing forward is also a welcome sign of the Masters, baseball, Summer etc.

leave it alone.

They have school days in January in Alaska where the sun doesn't rise at all. 830 doesn't seem so bad in light of that now does it.
 

johnson86-1

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1- federal approval is needed? WT17 for? Did NW IN got federal approval to be part of Central Time since its so close to Chicago? Did Arizona get federal approval to not participate in DST?
If a state doesnt want to participate in DST, then let em vote on it and go from there. Itll get confusing as 17, but when has that ever stopped anything from happening in our government?

2- I was in Belize this past summer(incredible place, by the way) and they are Eastern time, but dont follow DST. In mid-June it was dark at 530. I was shocked because that one hadnt come to mind to think of before we visited. It was also light at 5am. 5am!!!!
That **** shouldnt happen- its the 17ing Caribbean!




Pitch black mornings in the late fall and winter would suck. It would not be as safe as the current setup for commuters(kids, pedestrians, etc) in the morning. At the same time, it also wouldnt be dark during the night rush hour so that would be safer.

I would take more sun later in the day during fall and winter for sure.

States can opt out of daylight savings time, but they can't opt in to observing daylight savings time year round. Or at least that's the claim. I think they can certainly recognize daylight savings time all year, the problem would be that all the federal stuff going on in the state would still be moving back and forth. I think the states that want to move to DST year round should just do it, and the feds would probably adjust.
 
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I don’t want to get up at 3 am in the summer to work. I’d rather have daylight at the end of the day.

This the simple reason why I like it better. I don't know about you guys, but I tend to be more active with the sun up later in the day.

I 17ing hate standard time and it getting dark around 5ish.
 
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I wish they'd move back DST a couple of weeks like they used to have it. At least give me a week or two of turkey season with that extra hour in the morning.

That was the only reason why I liked it, even though the season always got better when the time did change and we would lose hunters during the week who could not change the time they had to be at work.
 

Big Sheep81

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May not matter. MDWFP is talking about pushing the season to around April 1st to give gobblers a little great chance to breed before getting shot. Gonna be interesting to see what they do.
 

RocketDawg

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I 17’n HATE DST! For the farmers or those employed in the Ag industry, it sucks.

If pasture pool is your thing, those people can always get up an hour or two earlier and get their **** done. 7-4 or 6-3 is still 8 hrs with lunch break just like 8-5.

Why can’t businesses and schools adjust hours, when days get longer, instead of penalizing the whole population?

Why does it matter for farmers?
 

RocketDawg

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1- federal approval is needed? WT17 for? Did NW IN got federal approval to be part of Central Time since its so close to Chicago? Did Arizona get federal approval to not participate in DST?
If a state doesnt want to participate in DST, then let em vote on it and go from there. Itll get confusing as 17, but when has that ever stopped anything from happening in our government?

2- I was in Belize this past summer(incredible place, by the way) and they are Eastern time, but dont follow DST. In mid-June it was dark at 530. I was shocked because that one hadnt come to mind to think of before we visited. It was also light at 5am. 5am!!!!
That **** shouldnt happen- its the 17ing Caribbean!




Pitch black mornings in the late fall and winter would suck. It would not be as safe as the current setup for commuters(kids, pedestrians, etc) in the morning. At the same time, it also wouldnt be dark during the night rush hour so that would be safer.

I would take more sun later in the day during fall and winter for sure.

Belize is tropical, at about 17 degrees latitude, so the day length there is pretty much the same year round. They don't need to go on DST (for the reasons North America is doing it for). Belize might be happier on Central time though.
 

GloryDawg

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I've heard for those kids that get picked up by the school bus at 6 to 6:30 AM - it's pitch black during the fall/winter if we didn't go back to standard time.

Hate to tell you but it was pitch dark at 6:30 this morning.
 

Hump4Hoops

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I've read about SAD, but if you're willing, I've got questions.

Do you feel any short-term difference in depression in sunlight vs darkness, such that regardless of how long the sun is out, you're affected by how much you get to be out and experiencing it?

Does weather play any effect, or only length of days?

I have a co-worker who has this weird light that just blasts her face during the day, "light therapy" for SAD. Is that real or ********?
 

cowbell88

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Why does it matter for farmers?

For farmers,it’s daylight till dark mostly, except for the temp difference.

I personally tend to function better outside when temp is in mid 70’s with moderate humidity, than I do when temp is in mid 90’s with 90% humidity.
 

Hail State

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I hate DST. MUCH prefer standard time. I can’t stand it getting dark later in the day. I farm and now have to work at 9 o’clock at night. Standard time is called standard time for a reason, because it’s the best.
 

mstateglfr

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Belize is tropical, at about 17 degrees latitude, so the day length there is pretty much the same year round. They don't need to go on DST (for the reasons North America is doing it for). Belize might be happier on Central time though.

Very true on the location playing a significant part in their daylight.
 
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It’s hard enough getting some of our farmhands to get there at 6 or 7. It would be impossible to get them there at 5 or earlier.
 

Bucky Dog

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I like the 2 time system and makes sense for all but do NOT go to standard time all the time. I can see why Arizona chose to stay in standard because it’s 182 degrees in the summer. I know folks that live there and they get up at 4:00 and play 18 before work.

On the the other hand there is NO reason Hawaii should not observe DST. Like an earlier poster said about Belize, it sucks the sun sets at 5:30 and rises at 4:30!
 
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